MurderinClony

I wasn't involved but I'll tell you the how the mains work. The four survivor players that are on the scoreboard, are the mains, I assume you know this. Those four players and only those four players gain distance points. The bars only increase if they continue through the level. The other six survivors plus the four mains are just an extra 25 points IF they reach the saferoom alive. If all four of those mains die at the beginning by some chance and the other six non mains make it to the end saferoom, for the entire level, they will still get zero points plus 25 points for every survivor alive in the saferoom. Say this map had a distance point total of 400, they would get 0 points for distance plus 6x25 which would be a total of 150 points instead of 550 points if the mains would have also made it. This being said, mains rarely stay constant through the map, which means they can and will changed before the end saferoom as new players join and leave the survivor team. So yes a main can change from a dead main to a main that is alive in the saferoom and get the team full distance points, for his bar that is. This can also work vice versa. An alive main can change to a dead main, but the distance bar cannot go backwards, say the dead main died way behind where the alive main was, before it changed. It will just stop counting distance where it changed.

I'm just curious... Is there a way to make the votes so where it gives two statistics? Like it would be.... The answer to: Skip map 50% of survivors voted: Yes 80% of infected voted: No Not really sure this would be useful or not though.

I was present, Taco was way too far ahead, as with Maverick. Also earlier in the level I caught him with a Jockey quite far from his teammates, before I moved him further away.

So this is a few months old topic, but I will say this again, even though Jackie's guideline was shown here, I still have the same complaint as before. I have been to a finale with plenty of admins and they ask for a skip, I say no don't skip along with a few others, and what happens? A vote skip is called and it is passed. What happened to the "If... One or more players do not want to skip, do not put up a vote." I played in a No Mercy game just a few hours ago and a few people on my team, including me, said no we do not want to skip. What happened? A vote skip was called, however it failed. But it was still called, and then they proceeded to vote for charger dodge ball, which is okay but not when the scores are pretty bad and half the other team probably didn't want to. From a 54% vote majority for yes, I'm sure half of one team didn't want to. I would think votes like messing around and having fun would need to be a 100% because its not fun if one team is enjoying themselves while the other team suffers because only 1 person on the their team wanted to. I know I wasn't really enjoying being teleported to the helipad and immediately getting charged off, without a second to even hit the ground because some charger was ready to plow through us all, but I can assure you the infected were having a blast trying to charge all 10 of us off in one push through.

If you all take nothing away from this thread, at least take this. Learn to read and spell correctly.

Aim for the head, it does more damage; especially if using a sniper.

So what you are saying is its rather worthless? Trying to install windows 7 would be futile correct? I did try that though, I put in windows 7 and got it to boot from the CD, or at least changed the priority to, and it still ended up with Operating System Not Found when I inserted windows 7. Although my mistake is probably that I am trying to do windows 7.

Holy crap, I responded to a dead thread, sweeeeet. -.-

Coolio, and I didn't notice this thread's last post was in March my bad. >.<

So can anyone post in this thread or is it just for a specific set of people?

I came across a Dell Inspiron 3500 laptop recently in a garbage dumpster at my workplace. It turns on just fine but then this pops up when I try and proceed.... I have tried repeated spamming the f12 and f8 keys upon start up but when I spam the f8 key, I get some beeping after the screen and then it returns to the normal Operating System Not Found crap.... Anyone have any ideas what I might be able to do?

Sky, Well then, kudos to you for thinking of them all, and even more kudos if they are working flawlessly I guess I shouldn't have said "this plugin." What I should have said was "this kind of plugin." I just don't like the idea of being forced back. And yes, all of those I stated have happened to me on a server, but not just once or twice, so my general consensus would be in disagreement, unless proven otherwise. Didn't mean to try and make your plugin look like crap, I was simply stating my opinion on the matter. If I did do such a thing then allow me to apologize, because I'm sure plugins aren't easy things to make.

I agree with night, its too much brute force. I've seen this on other servers before, and it aggravates me when servers have it. All a player has to do is retreat to the starting saferoom and people in the front will be warned and teleported back to the furthest back guy, and since survivors can't rope other survivors and bring them along, if someone decided to stay in the saferoom, its a done game, if admins are not on that is. Same thing can happen in the front, If you are not rushing but are blocking spawns and one of your teammates actually decides to rush, it will teleport you along with them back when you weren't doing anything wrong. And what about the points where the team feels it's a strategic rush and the plugin knows no better and forces you back right into the lion's den eh? What if a jockey pulls a survivor so far forward the plugin told him not to rush and teleported him back. That is a strategic position an infected put him into, and the plugin to prevent rushing will initially save the survivors from losing a teammate and may allow them to win the game. What if infected kept chain charging players back, which happens so much in Sacrifice map 2, and the front survivors get told not to rush, and get teleported back to the player being chain charged or brought back in general. It was not their fault they got pulled back, and they did nothing wrong; only a human would know this. To me, this plugin has too many faults, no matter how you code it. It has to think like a human in order to know if someone is rushing for situations like those I have previously stated, and that is also why I prefer admins over this plugin to take care of business. We may have faults as humans, but we would do a better job than this plugin could and with that thought, save the person writing the plugin the trouble of making it so sophisticated.

What do you mean by keeping the momentum for more than a few seconds? as in bhoping more than a few seconds? because if that's what you meant; it is possible (without scripts) Just quite hard, because the timing gets harder and harder as you change heights from the landscape. But if you use some sort of outside help like a script, that is hacking so no, you can't use those. As for the hunters from invisible walls, I'd say lets drop it here and let TestCharacter surf the forums instead of asking if its legal here or not, because it has already been discussed. And if we go into detail here, it will get closed like the last one after a while, also in which both strayed from the original topic if I may say.

I know I'm not an admin and so my opinion probably doesn't matter but here we go anyways. If you have to ask if it is legal, it is probably not legal. /end opinion

Not sure this can be done, because in order to change any witch to be dangerous, you must change console commands, and when you change these commands, all witches would be effected, regardless of witches already placed. I believe its an all or nothing choice here. Or so that is my knowledge of the console, that leads me to believe this, I could be wrong.

If you take any part of a game out, the game will still be the same game, but it will be lacking something very important that the game mechanics work around, so essentially, each piece is the game. If you removed the witch, the survivors would no longer slow down at certain spots when a witch is about. This is used by Valve to strategically slow the survivors down, to make them think about avoiding or plan to try and kill them a certain way. If there were no witches, maps like Hard Rain 2 would have no purpose, also note it is witch heaven and there are also several comments made by the survivors about these witches. Each infected has their own strategic purpose. But Valve didn't make these things impassible, and they can be killed if you are skillful enough, but not in Realism, but to counter for this change in style, they made the witch unable to break doors down, and now allow a survivor to startle her and rush behind a door to let his teammates do the dirty work. This is all taking into account vanilla gameplay, 4v4 versus or 4 player coop campaign. Not the server where you can get explosive ammo out of thin air for each witch and just stumble her to death. The same can be said about all the other infected but I'm too lazy to go into detail about each one. This is also just a rant to keep this forum post towards the top so we can make sure the poll gets done.

Yeah a big DDOS, someone meng banned last night, for cursing But thats not mengs fault, he was enforcing the rules.

I don't even want to begin a rage on you for this comment. It is not "part" of the game, it IS the game. There is even an achievement from Valve to CROWN the witch. Only way to do that is a shotgun, and Valve intended this. This can even be done with a pump shotgun, although very hard, it requires all pellets to hit the head of the witch. The only thing Jackie has done is change the distance and rate at which the witch gets agroed. And which I must say, makes crowning the witch almost impossible now, unless she has agro on someone else, you don't have time to reach her before she is already standing up rushing at you. Only way I have done it was to take an adrenaline and push her with an auto shotty, only to have ever killed her in 1 shot with it. I remember the times where I could walk up with a pump shotgun and pop her in the head before she even stood up halfway, yes on this server.

Also notice it doesn't list all players on the infected team ether if the game is close to being full

Would you stay if no one listened to your opinion simply because you were "different" in some way? Would you stay if people kept ridiculing you over something that was done ages ago? People can't change in this world am I right? Would you stay if people couldn't let go of the past, pretending this is high school and kept bringing up all the wrong committed and ignoring anything good done in the future? Would you stay if no one would realize the good you do because all they can remember is the bad, when that bad is no longer even present? Would you stay if just for being present, people would make jokes or comment bad things about you, when you have said nothing at all? Would you stay if this was your friend that was being picked at, or would you speak up and try and fix the situation, like I have?

Haha, this has strayed so far from the topic at hand. xD