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ok I know I am banned from westcost server for three more weeks because I was using a mouse script that was decided as unfair and I am fine with that.

 

However, I joined the Westcost Deathmatch server to give it a try and witt@gcftw.com was in there playing with me. It was on an aim map and I was thowing nades into the spawn and was asked to stop. And I did. Then a minute or so goes by and I was kicked. Then I came back in asked what I was kicked for and was told to figure it out. I had stopped spamming and had not said anything. Then I got a response from him saying my comment was uncalled for. But, I did not say anything!!!! Ok, so I just let it go and start playing again. I rush the ct spawn an kill witt@gcftw.com then all of a sudden kicked and banned. I am sorry but I do not think it is right to be kicking and banning simply because I am killing you. Anyway I copied my whole console so you can see just what was going on. Please look into this and remove the ban on me. I would like to still be able to play in this server while I wait out the ban on westcost. Thank you for your time.

~Altron

 

 

 

witt@gcftw.com : ALTRON, STOP SPAMMING NADES INTO THE SPAWN

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed Alamaan with hegrenade.

IR][sH Z3RO.gc killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

Stygian : rofl

wegotthechronic420 killed IR][sH Z3RO.gc with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed Alamaan with awp.

Unknown command: pubChat

Waffles killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

[o.O] Seth killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

Unknown command: pubChat

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Ivan with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed IR][sH Z3RO.gc with awp.

[o.O] Seth killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : isnt that what these are here for?

Unknown command: -enter

[o.O] Seth killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed Waffles with awp.

Alamaan killed Kyuzkyuz with awp.

Stygian killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed [o.O] Ivan with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed IR][sH Z3RO.gc with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

wegotthechronic420 killed Stygian with awp.

(Terrorist) tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : Cover me I'm reloading 114

IR][sH Z3RO.gc killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed Alamaan with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

wegotthechronic420 killed Waffles with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed [o.O] Ivan with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed Alamaan with awp.

Vote for aim_shotty_forz_final

Vote for aim_shotty_forz_final

Vote for aim_combat

Vote for aim_shotty_forz_final

Vote for aim_map_usp

[CSSDM] Type "guns" to re-enable the menu.Vote for aim_shotty_forz_final

(Terrorist) tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : Cover me I'm reloading 114

Vote for aim_shotty_forz_final

[o.O] Ivan killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

Stygian killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

Stygian killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

Vote for aim_secretgarden

Have fun, be nice, and play fair so all can enjoy.

Alamaan killed [o.O] Ivan with knife.

IR][sH Z3RO.gc killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

[o.O] Seth killed Alamaan with awp.

Stygian killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

Waffles killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

Alamaan killed Waffles with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

Alamaan killed IR][sH Z3RO.gc with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

Results are in, 8 votes were cast

Option 'aim_shotty_forz_final' has won the vote

Next Map will be aim_shotty_forz_final

witt@gcftw.com killed tWc|Altron *Aequitas* with awp.

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Given

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Damage Given to "[o.O] Zim" - 148 in 3 hits

Damage Given to "wegotthechronic420" - 691 in 6 hits

Damage Given to "witt@gcftw.com" - 156 in 4 hits

Damage Given to "Alamaan" - 321 in 4 hits

Damage Given to "IM JACOB!!!!" - 226 in 3 hits

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Taken

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Damage Taken from "wegotthechronic420" - 84 in 1 hit

Damage Taken from "Alamaan" - 12 in 1 hit

Damage Taken from "witt@gcftw.com" - 109 in 1 hit

IM JACOB!!!! killed [o.O] Ivan with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

Disconnect: Kicked by Console.

Disconnect: Kicked by Console.

 

Connecting to 216.193.228.72:27015...

Connected to 216.193.228.72:27015

 

Counter-Strike: Source

Map: awp_zvdk32

Players: 12 / 19

Build 2677

Server Number 15

SetConVar: No such cvar ( mani_nextmap set to aim_shotty_forz_final), skipping

SetConVar: No such cvar ( mani_tickrate set to 100), skipping

SetConVar: No such cvar ( mani_reserve_slots set to 1), skipping

Begin loading faces (loads materials)

End loading faces (loads materials)

Initializing renderer...

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* connected

Saved score reloaded

[o.O] Seth killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

Unknown command: pubChat

Unknown command: teamChat

[o.O] Zim killed Waffles with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed Stygian with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

Unknown command: pubChat

[CSSDM] Counter-Strike Source: Deathmatch (version 0.91)[CSSDM] Written by BAILOPAN. Visit http://www.bailopan.net/cssdmIR][sH Z3RO.gc killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : what was that for?

Unknown command: -enter

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed Alamaan with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

IR][sH Z3RO.gc killed IM JACOB!!!! with knife.

witt@gcftw.com : figure it out

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : why was I kicked?

Unknown command: -enter

Waffles killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : cuz I killed you?

Unknown command: -enter

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Ivan with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed Kyuzkyuz with awp.

Waffles killed Alamaan with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed Waffles with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : I didnt say anything

Unknown command: -enter

Alamaan killed IR][sH Z3RO.gc with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed Waffles with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : and stopped spamming

[o.O] Ivan killed witt@gcftw.com with awp.

Unknown command: -enter

Kyuzkyuz killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : so I honestly dont know

Unknown command: -enter

Kyuzkyuz killed Alamaan with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Ivan with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

Stygian killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

Boel connected

Kyuzkyuz killed Alamaan with awp.

witt@gcftw.com : your comments were unneeded

IR][sH Z3RO.gc killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed Stygian with awp.

[o.O] Seth killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Ivan with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Ivan with awp.

Alamaan killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

IR][sH Z3RO.gc killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : lol I didnt say anything

Unknown command: -enter

Waffles killed Alamaan with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed Waffles with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed Kyuzkyuz with hegrenade.

Stygian killed witt@gcftw.com with usp.

Stygian killed wegotthechronic420 with usp.

[o.O] Zim killed Stygian with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

Got AIM??

Stygian killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed witt@gcftw.com with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed Kyuzkyuz with hegrenade.

[o.O] Zim killed IR][sH Z3RO.gc with awp.

Waffles killed IM JACOB!!!! with hegrenade.

Waffles suicided.

[o.O] Zim killed Stygian with awp.

wegotthechronic420 killed [o.O] Ivan with usp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

Waffles : yay!

Kyuzkyuz killed wegotthechronic420 with knife.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed witt@gcftw.com with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed tWc|Altron *Aequitas* with awp.

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Given

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Damage Given to "wegotthechronic420" - 432 in 1 hit

Damage Given to "witt@gcftw.com" - 246 in 2 hits

Damage Given to "[o.O] Zim" - 112 in 1 hit

Damage Given to "IM JACOB!!!!" - 110 in 1 hit

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Taken

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Damage Taken from "[o.O] Zim" - 110 in 1 hit

Cash restored to last known amount

IR][sH Z3RO.gc killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

IR][sH Z3RO.gc killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed IR][sH Z3RO.gc with awp.

Stygian killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed witt@gcftw.com with awp.

Waffles killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

wegotthechronic420 killed Waffles with awp.

[o.O] Seth killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed wegotthechronic420 with knife.

witt@gcftw.com killed IR][sH Z3RO.gc with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! : guns

[o.O] Ivan killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

Stygian killed witt@gcftw.com with awp.

Stygian killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed witt@gcftw.com with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed witt@gcftw.com with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Ivan with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed Waffles with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed IR][sH Z3RO.gc with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed Stygian with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed tWc|Altron *Aequitas* with awp.

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Given

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Damage Given to "wegotthechronic420" - 245 in 2 hits

Damage Given to "IM JACOB!!!!" - 108 in 1 hit

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Taken

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Damage Taken from "witt@gcftw.com" - 436 in 1 hit

[o.O] Seth killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

[o.O] Seth killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed Waffles with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

[o.O] Ivan killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed [o.O] Ivan with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed Kyuzkyuz with awp.

IR][sH Z3RO.gc killed witt@gcftw.com with knife.

Stygian killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

Stygian killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed Waffles with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed [o.O] Seth with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

witt@gcftw.com killed [o.O] Ivan with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed IR][sH Z3RO.gc with awp.

Waffles killed witt@gcftw.com with hegrenade.

Waffles killed IM JACOB!!!! with knife.

[o.O] Zim killed tWc|Altron *Aequitas* with awp.

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Given

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Damage Given to "IM JACOB!!!!" - 111 in 1 hit

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Taken

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Damage Taken from "[o.O] Zim" - 108 in 1 hit

We hope you have fun on our server!! Please visit us anytime!

witt@gcftw.com killed Waffles with awp.

Kyuzkyuz killed [o.O] Zim with hegrenade.

Stygian killed wegotthechronic420 with usp.

Stygian killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

Stygian killed witt@gcftw.com with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed Stygian with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed wegotthechronic420 with usp.

(Terrorist) tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : Cover me I'm reloading 114

[o.O] Ivan killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed [o.O] Zim with usp.

(Terrorist) tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : Cover me I'm reloading 114

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* killed IM JACOB!!!! with knife.

[o.O] Zim killed tWc|Altron *Aequitas* with awp.

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Given

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Damage Given to "wegotthechronic420" - 147 in 3 hits

Damage Given to "[o.O] Zim" - 116 in 4 hits

Damage Given to "IM JACOB!!!!" - 133 in 3 hits

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Taken

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Damage Taken from "[o.O] Zim" - 139 in 1 hit

Waffles killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

Waffles killed wegotthechronic420 with awp.

Waffles killed witt@gcftw.com with awp.

IM JACOB!!!! killed Waffles with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed [o.O] Ivan with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed Kyuzkyuz with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed tWc|Altron *Aequitas* with awp.

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Given

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Damage Given to "IM JACOB!!!!" - 13 in 1 hit

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Taken

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Damage Taken from "[o.O] Zim" - 133 in 1 hit

IR][sH Z3RO.gc killed IM JACOB!!!! with awp.

wegotthechronic420 killed [o.O] Ivan with usp.

(Terrorist) tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : Cover me I'm reloading 114

[o.O] Zim killed Kyuzkyuz with awp.

[o.O] Zim killed tWc|Altron *Aequitas* with awp.

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Given

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Damage Given to "witt@gcftw.com" - 14 in 1 hit

Player: tWc|Altron *Aequitas* - Damage Taken

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Damage Taken from "[o.O] Zim" - 111 in 1 hit

Kyuzkyuz killed [o.O] Zim with awp.

wegotthechronic420 killed Boel with usp.

Disconnect: Kicked by Console.

Disconnect: Kicked by Console.

 

Connecting to 216.193.228.72:27015...

Connected to 216.193.228.72:27015

 

Counter-Strike: Source

Map: awp_zvdk32

Players: 11 / 19

Build 2677

Server Number 15

SetConVar: No such cvar ( mani_nextmap set to aim_shotty_forz_final), skipping

SetConVar: No such cvar ( mani_tickrate set to 100), skipping

SetConVar: No such cvar ( mani_reserve_slots set to 1), skipping

Disconnect: STEAM UserID STEAM_0:0:266752 is banned.

Disconnect: STEAM UserID STEAM_0:0:266752 is banned.

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I am not the admin that banned you, however I was speaking to an admin who did. I believe this is a day ban. You were originally kicked because after I asked you to stop spamming nades you responded with something along the lines of "Isn' that what they're here for?" The lag between that and the kick was due to the fact I had to message an admin. Your comment wasn't needed, the spawn killing was already out of hand.

 

When you returned, you immediately became confrontational, and insinuated that you were kicked for killing me. This was not the case, and your attitude was not needed due to the fact that, as I have stated before, the atmosphere in the server was already difficult for me to handle.

 

You were banned because you were killing people as they spawned. I had spammed messages in all caps, asking people to stop doing that. In addition, the server spams messages advising people to stay away from opposing spawns. You failed to comply, and that, along with the fact that you had already been kicked, resulted in a day ban from the aim server.

 

I'm sorry that you feel you were unjustly banned. In the future, please try to comply with the rules of the server. I was just trying to play and keep things under control. Having someone giving me a hard time, especially someone who is a tWc member, did not help.

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I've played with Witt on the AIM lab several times, and I know he gets ticked

when people rush the oppossing spawn & slaughter people as the come in. I can

see how frusterating it is. These maps are meant to improve your aim, not going

on killing sprees in the oppossing spawn. This is why your re-spawned with 488 health.

When an admin is onboard, and witnesses this multiple times, this course of action is

standard, whether that spam is through nades or infiltration is irrellevant.

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I am not the admin that banned you, however I was speaking to an admin who did. I believe this is a day ban. You were originally kicked because after I asked you to stop spamming nades you responded with something along the lines of "Isn' that what they're here for?" The lag between that and the kick was due to the fact I had to message an admin. Your comment wasn't needed, the spawn killing was already out of hand.

 

When you returned, you immediately became confrontational, and insinuated that you were kicked for killing me. This was not the case, and your attitude was not needed due to the fact that, as I have stated before, the atmosphere in the server was already difficult for me to handle.

 

You were banned because you were killing people as they spawned. I had spammed messages in all caps, asking people to stop doing that. In addition, the server spams messages advising people to stay away from opposing spawns. You failed to comply, and that, along with the fact that you had already been kicked, resulted in a day ban from the aim server.

 

I'm sorry that you feel you were unjustly banned. In the future, please try to comply with the rules of the server. I was just trying to play and keep things under control. Having someone giving me a hard time, especially someone who is a tWc member, did not help.

 

 

I was not trying to be to make anything worse.... yes I was rushing the ct spawn but I was doing it to knife people I was not using my awp and killing them as they spawned in. I only used my usp when people wouldnt knife. I dont understand how this justifies a ban. Please John remove this ban so I can resume playing in this wonderful community. I will no longer rush the other teams spawn on aim maps. I did not mean to upset anyone when I did this I just like to rush and knife people. Thanks for listening.

~Altron

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These maps are meant to improve your aim, not going

on killing sprees in the oppossing spawn. This is why your re-spawned with 488 health.

When an admin is onboard, and witnesses this multiple times, this course of action is

standard, whether that spam is through nades or infiltration is irrellevant.

 

Exactly. :) Witt messaging me was like a ban request. The first was a kick and second a ban. It was only a day ban.

 

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : isnt that what these are here for?

They're there because the map creator put them there. It adds creativity to the map. If it were a normal server, you wouldn't be able to spam the spawn with grenades as people were respawning.

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These maps are meant to improve your aim, not going

on killing sprees in the oppossing spawn. This is why your re-spawned with 488 health.

When an admin is onboard, and witnesses this multiple times, this course of action is

standard, whether that spam is through nades or infiltration is irrellevant.

 

Exactly. :) Witt messaging me was like a ban request. The first was a kick and second a ban. It was only a day ban.

 

tWc|Altron *Aequitas* : isnt that what these are here for?

They're there because the map creator put them there. It adds creativity to the map. If it were a normal server, you wouldn't be able to spam the spawn with grenades as people were respawning.

 

 

So frustrating you act like I was camping the spawn and killing people before they were ready.... I just dont understand I am very easy to get along with and if you ask me to stop something I will. Yes I asked "isnt that what they are here for" but does that really deserve a ban? I still stopped and did not mouth off. If I have to wait a day I will but I just think this is a little out of hand and feel like I am being picked on.

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I say gg.

 

I saw spam and nade and 24hrs. Sounds reasonable.

 

 

it will be over 24 hrs once we combine ban lists again :P

 

 

I love how you guys seem to get enjoyment out of this. What did I ever do to you. I have always tried to be respectfull and obey. So I made a mistake and did something that upset an admin and I was unaware of his frustration. But no need to act like this

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Altron, you were not banned because you upset me or frustrated me. You were banned because you broke the rules of the server. There was absolutely nothing personal involved. You're a very good player, and I'm sure you're more than capable of racking up kills in a fashion that doesn't diminish the experience of other players in the server.

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Altron, you were not banned because you upset me or frustrated me. You were banned because you broke the rules of the server. There was absolutely nothing personal involved. You're a very good player, and I'm sure you're more than capable of racking up kills in a fashion that doesn't diminish the experience of other players in the server.

 

 

No worries, just sucks for me because my fav servers to play in I can't join. Can't play with my team and now I cant play in the other gc server. Just frustrates me to see some admins (not you witt) seeming to get enjoyment out of this. So I guess I need to find another community, I was going to join gc but with how things are going lately it doesnt seem like the smart thing to do.

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the "gg" was as a question, not a rip. seriously, i'm sorry if it came off that way.

 

it was "gg?" in the form of "everyone happy here? seems like 24h is the term, alvin is the lead admin, things seem in check. shake hands, pat butts, gg?"

 

we try to keep it loose, but definitely not disrespectful. but in good fun, you should ask M2 when his next employee review is up at time/warner (or whatever "isp" he works for).

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No particular enjoyment, but we're certainly not mechanical about it either. SJ seemed to be looking for confirmation with his "gg?". So, I confirmed for him.

 

If M2 says you should be banned from all the servers, maybe you should. He is one of our lead admins.

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it will be over 24 hrs once we combine ban lists again :P

 

Hmm.. aim lab has a seperate banlist from the 4 main servers. Not sure why but that's just how it was. :biglaugha: aim lab is basically on its own right now. We don't get redirects either. :shrug03:

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