Johnny April 10, 2015 Share Johnny April 10, 2015 I think one spitter slot should be allowed. It's the 5 spitters, unlimited roflstomp spits that's OP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan April 10, 2015 Author Share JackieChan April 10, 2015 I could do that. Smart teams would just camp in ghost mode until a spitter frees up to keep a constant spamming of spit going though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButterNJelly April 10, 2015 Share PeanutButterNJelly April 10, 2015 Either way, makes sense to try to eliminate the situation, since it is so difficult to get a team of 10 up that elevator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerkoff April 10, 2015 Share Jerkoff April 10, 2015 What if instead, the spitter spawn is at 0 at the beginning of the round? They will have to buy up the spitter spawn limit to then be able to spawn as one. While statistics of success for the elevator is low, I wouldn't like to completely eliminate the choke point. If there is no spitter, there's hardly anything to prevent them from going in like every other elevator situations. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignis April 11, 2015 Share Ignis April 11, 2015 What if instead, the spitter spawn is at 0 at the beginning of the round? They will have to buy up the spitter spawn limit to then be able to spawn as one. While statistics of success for the elevator is low, I wouldn't like to completely eliminate the choke point. If there is no spitter, there's hardly anything to prevent them from going in like every other elevator situations. I think that might be a little too much to start at 0 . The spitter break on elevators seems like a great idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug April 11, 2015 Share Thug April 11, 2015 What about instead of the spit damaging survivors, it heals them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzul April 11, 2015 Share anzul April 11, 2015 What about instead of the spit damaging survivors, it heals them? 10 days too late thug! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos April 11, 2015 Share Carlos April 11, 2015 (edited) How about we just leave it the way it was before, or is that out of the question? I know the spitters filling the elevator with spit may seem overpowered, but it's not like riding your way up is impossible. Surviving the elevator with the available spitter slots may be improbable, but not impossible. It just takes good timing for everyone in the survivor team to make it across the elevator. Unless your team consists of mostly bots ( THIS is when everyone entering the elevator gets impossible with spitters around), then you still have a chance to make it through This chapter of Hard Rain also gives the losing team that is taking a beating an opportunity to redeem themselves at the elevator part. Let's say that 7-10 members of the survivors in the winning team makes it to the safe room for the first 2 chapters, while the losing team dies 50-70% of the way for both chapters. (I say the losing team's performance is fairly good and respectable. It could be worse for them). There is a several hundred score difference between both teams. The third chapter gives the losing team a chance to use the spitters at the elevator to their advantage. It gives the infected team a chance to pull off an upset victory over the dominant survivor team since the elevator part is tough for the survivors. Sure, the winning team can do the same ambush on the losing team at the elevator for the next found, but it'll make the game seem more even compared to before if both teams die there. Besides, like I said before, the losing team can also pull off another upset if they do survive the elevator part instead of the other team, even if it does seem unlikely. This is just a scenario where the team that is losing by a lot can potentially benefit from using spitters at the elevator. They could get some/all of the good kills on the dominant winning team that they couldn't get from the previous 2 chapters. Besides, it feels so rewarding when you do survive the elevator with spitters around since it's pretty challenging to get through it. It's kinda like what anzul said earlier on. Disabling the spitters takes away that merit and that "holy hell" moment now when survivors do make it exit the elevator unharmed. Infected could still try ambushing at the top floors of the building, but it won't have that same unpredictability of whether or not the survivors could weasel their way through the "spitter's death trap." I know I'm alone here, but I don't think we need spitters to be disabled for the beginning of that chapter. But then again, I'm too late either way. Nothing I can do about it. Edited April 11, 2015 by Carlos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan April 11, 2015 Author Share JackieChan April 11, 2015 There are too many variables in play to make the elevator part any bit fair for either team in that situation: -Bots -Players who don't listen -Slower players -Unaware players -Incapped players in the elevator preventing starting the event I found that it's too hard to fix the event without just getting rid of Spitters until the first checkpoint. I would rather people be able to play through the entire map than have it end at the elevator 95% of the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug April 11, 2015 Share Thug April 11, 2015 I guess charger punching from behind the elevator will be the new way of doing it hopefully the noobs will turn around and shoot now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzul April 11, 2015 Share anzul April 11, 2015 (edited) what abouth making a "cold stream" ladder/stairway whit pathing? the one from the first map near the tank. this way survivors can decide wheter to climb(bots/new players game) or go trough the elevator of death (full menbers team) you could also put some covered fences below to separate both paths and make it easier for infected. Edited April 11, 2015 by anzul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug April 15, 2015 Share Thug April 15, 2015 Update: -New achievement - I THINK I'M GONNA TO BE SICK - Boom 30 Survivors in total Is this a typo or a reference I don't get? Shouldn't it be "I THINK I'M GONNA BE SICK"? I've noticed this for a while but never said anything. Sorry for being a grammar nazi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan April 15, 2015 Author Share JackieChan April 15, 2015 I would rather typos not exist. I originally had it as "I Think I'm Going To Be Sick" Thanks. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButterNJelly April 16, 2015 Share PeanutButterNJelly April 16, 2015 At first I didn't like the idea of getting rid of the spitter there, because it is fun on the infected side to wipe out a whole team with a spitter. But after playing it a couple times, since the change, it is MUCH better this way. It was ridiculous to have the map just end at the elevator almost all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan April 21, 2015 Author Share JackieChan April 21, 2015 Update:-Added second tier Untouchable: CAN'T TOUCH THIS - Don't take damage for 6 minutes after you leave the saferoom 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chick82 April 21, 2015 Share chick82 April 21, 2015 (edited) Update: -Added second tier Untouchable: CAN'T TOUCH THIS - Don't take damage for 6 minutes after you leave the saferoom So is it 3 then 6 for 9 or 6 total Nvm I think I had a blonde moment and its 6 total unless I'm wrong Edited April 21, 2015 by chick82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiXie April 21, 2015 Share DiXie April 21, 2015 Ooo I'll be getting second untouchable awwwwwlllllllllllll the time!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug April 21, 2015 Share Thug April 21, 2015 Yayyy, even more of a reason to hide in corners and not help your team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test April 23, 2015 Share Test April 23, 2015 Time for me to hire personal bodyguards for exactly 6 minutes every round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan April 24, 2015 Author Share JackieChan April 24, 2015 Update: -Reduced "Points per Boom" to 1.5. Down from 2. -Added "Common Assistance" points for Boomers. For every common infected that hits a Survivor that you boomed, you get 0.1 points per hit. I've always wanted to do this, but couldn't really ever figure it out. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzul April 24, 2015 Share anzul April 24, 2015 (edited) Reduced "Points per Boom" to 1.5. Down from 2. NOOOOOOO WHAT THE- Added "Common Assistance" points for Boomers is it posible to get kill points from booms/comons kills? Edited April 24, 2015 by anzul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan April 24, 2015 Author Share JackieChan April 24, 2015 No. Wasn't thinking of that when coding it. Probably not in the foreseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Architect April 24, 2015 Share Architect April 24, 2015 Well crap. Now the way I got to a tank will take even longer. I don't think the points assist will amount to a whole lot with the way people use fire works. But there you have it, OP hunters left untouched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug April 24, 2015 Share Thug April 24, 2015 (edited) lol^ Why not just use hunters then? Edited April 24, 2015 by ThugTear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Architect April 24, 2015 Share Architect April 24, 2015 lol^ Why not just use hunters then? Maybe I am not good at them. Doesn't mean they are not over powered though. Too many games I have been on where ONE person who is good at pouncing gets a tank early and completely wipes up. No amount of scrambling or swapping will fix that, the advantage goes to the team with that one person. First the spitters get nerfed, now the boomers. What next, smokers? This will be a high pounce server if this keeps up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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