Buy plugin rewrite

[crasx]

Hi everyone

 

I decided to jump into a buy plugin full rewrite. The functionality will be the same (with some additions), I will just be making a more efficient way of storing information. It will also be compiled into modules that can be reloaded and modified without players losing points. So instead of having one file with 10,000 lines of code it will be spread over a few different files.

 

Some notable changes I am planning:

• adding buy argument so you can type !buy fireworkcrate (no more crazy menu binds)
• statistics tracking- round times, scores, most played maps
• new ranking based off points, also monthly ranks
• !np and !sp reworking that will prevent oversending points
• (maybe) buy items for other people. ie: !buy crasx heal
• new achievements

 

so, what I need from you all is ideas for the buy plugin. rewriting everything means I have a chance to add or change core functionality. are there any changes you've wanted to see with the buy plugin or any crazy ideas you have?

 

Also feel free to contribute to the achievements thread and let me know if you want to help test as I go along. maybe I will setup a bug tracker.

 

you can follow the progress here

[Jose]

 

• (maybe) buy items for other people. ie: !buy crasx heal

That one is very good for the new players or those who doesn't hear us saying "type !heal please" a ton of times

[MurderinClony]

Is it possible you can somehow make it where when a player crashes and rejoins the server before the round ends, can he/she get their points back that they had before?

[crasx]

Is it possible you can somehow make it where when a player crashes and rejoins the server before the round ends, can he/she get their points back that they had before?

thats a good idea

I also need to think about clearing points when switching teams

[BlackYoshi]

I love all those ideas crash. Keep up the good work and I can't wait to see them implemented. Just a random thought but could we add best HS ratio at the end of round stats? Just for fun.

Edited November 17, 2013 by BlackYoshi

[RadioKnight]

There was already a suggestion before about admins being able to force heal people and I explained there why I think its a bad idea.

 

 

I appreciate all the work thats gone into the buy plugin but one thing Ive noticed with stuff like this is the tendency to take it as far as it can go. Lets try not to let things get bloated and distracting from the core gameplay.

[MurderinClony]

If you do allow something of the sort like healing other players with !heal you would have to have some sort of cooldown for it, because if three people all type !heal <soandso> without noticing the others typed it, all three would lose points for just one heal, no?

[BlackYoshi]

If you do allow something of the sort like healing other players with !heal you would have to have some sort of cooldown for it, because if three people all type !heal <soandso> without noticing the others typed it, all three would lose points for just one heal, no?

I'm assuming there would be redundancies to prevent this.

[crasx]

indeed

[crasx]

what do you think about only getting tank points if you injure the tank?

[BlackYoshi]

what do you think about only getting tank points if you injure the tank?

I like this idea, too often people don't shoot the tank cause they are scared. You must do a certain base damage to get the 2 points. I would like to see it given a shot.

 

EDIT:

200-300 damage you think?

Edited November 18, 2013 by BlackYoshi

[oakgyrl510]

what do you think about only getting tank points if you injure the tank?

do itttttt.

[swatfishy]

for the tank thing, +1 for 1k+ dmg?

[Mercman]

Could you do it like the Special infected damage is now?

Maybe 10-15 points divided up among the people who shoot the tank?

[MPG1770]

No - enough messing around with the points - the tank has a distinct lack of ability : all too often the scripted tank spawns in at ridiculous places e.g. it's so far away that by the time it reaches the survivors, it's dead; or as in 1st round of Dead Centre, it spawns below the elevator that it's impossible to do anything with it.

Added to that, with continuous bile and fire being thrown at it, it doesn't last long. I know there are exceptions when people have enough points for 3 or 4 heals, but this is very rare.

 

Survivors don't need more points for killing tanks, they get enough points as it.

 

 

Hi everyone

 

I decided to jump into a buy plugin full rewrite. The functionality will be the same (with some additions), I will just be making a more efficient way of storing information. It will also be compiled into modules that can be reloaded and modified without players losing points. So instead of having one file with 10,000 lines of code it will be spread over a few different files.

 

Some notable changes I am planning:

• adding buy argument so you can type !buy fireworkcrate (no more crazy menu binds)
• statistics tracking- round times, scores, most played maps
• new ranking based off points, also monthly ranks
• !np and !sp reworking that will prevent oversending points
• (maybe) buy items for other people. ie: !buy crasx heal
• new achievements

 

so, what I need from you all is ideas for the buy plugin. rewriting everything means I have a chance to add or change core functionality. are there any changes you've wanted to see with the buy plugin or any crazy ideas you have?

 

Also feel free to contribute to the achievements thread and let me know if you want to help test as I go along. maybe I will setup a bug tracker.

 

you can follow the progress here

 

NO MORE CHANGES

[crasx]

well thats one for no changes.

 

I think it would be cool to at least have some type of statistical information so we can see a map by map breakdown of score and point earnings. That could also tell us which team may need more strength/point availability.

 

Any specific reason you are against changes?

[MurderinClony]

I agree with Maestro on this one, two points is fair enough for killing a tank, since 10 survivors shooting at it will kill it fast, but I was thinking of maybe doing something else for the tank points.

 

Maybe the guy who gets the killing blow gets +2 and everyone else gets "Tank Assist" Points depending on how much they did? Kinda like the other special infected? Because he is considered a special infected as well, just like the others, he is just bigger. I don't know, just a thought, because some people will just kite the tank and let their teammates kill it and get two points for doing nothing. It doesn't seem right to me but, eh oh well.

Edited November 18, 2013 by MurderinClony

[crasx]

yea makes sense.

 

idea which will be challenging: buy stats tracked via database

ie: track how often people buy ci limits or tanks... or heals and healthpacks (all purchasable)

 

 

btw status update: survivor buy and earn are about 90% done, currently working on infected buy then will do some refractoring, infected earn and database stuff. the ultimate goal is to have a rank system based off points instead of random stuff nobody really gets. I will also rewrite scramble to be based off this leaderboard

also, monthly ranks. With my new job I really only have time to code on the weekends so it may be a while.

[Cinkadeus]

I like the improvements, but I agree with no changes. Example: adding an argument to the !buy is an improvement. Not a change. Fixing the "!sp cink heal" feature would be nice too.

[Lookback]

I like the idea of a 'Spanked the Tank' achievement

[BlackYoshi]

I like the idea of a 'Spanked the Tank' achievement

 

Who is lookback?

[crasx]

yea I'm not planning a ton of changes, the old achievements will be there and the menus work the same. the main things will be what I listed and a couple achievements

 

ie: I have 3 levels of untouchable

[TheDude]

ie: I have 3 levels of untouchable

 

There's a dirty joke in there somewhere..

[crasx]

now that l4d2 is fixed (i hope), I'm going to work on this more. Expect updates in the near future

 

what do you think about bots earning points?

[MPG1770]

Bots earning points, Absolutely not - they maybe stupid, but they aimbot and do probably amass amount a good deal of points.

 

However, there are 3 points in this:

 

1) Are you going to program bots to use the !buy, !sp etc., menu, if that is not feasible, then it is pointless in giving them points.

 

2) If BOTS are kept alive through (let's say) 75% of a map; then an expert player comes in and takes control of that bot, do they get the points?

 

3) If survivor bots get points, then so must infected, if that's not possible, then infected need upgraded to balance : eg: double tank health,, let smokers walk, boomer slaps, allow jockey jumps etc this is a crazy idea IMHO.

 

STOP MAKING THE POINTS SYSTEM MORE COMPLICATED - LET'S GET BACK TO BASICS PLEASE : WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE ADDITIONS TO THE SYSTEM

 

Let us get used to being back to 'normal' please.

 

This server stands above all servers, it's one of the reasons I have remained a member and became an Admin, because I valued the simplicity, and that is what makes this server the best.

Edited January 4, 2014 by MPG1770