Pumpernickel November 5, 2014 Share Pumpernickel November 5, 2014 What if we submitted links to workshop items and allowed y'all to say what's allowed and what's not? If there are true "hacks" in the workshop, it will have to go through the board members first. By the way, some "unfair advantages" are scripts that have somehow migrated into the regular Left 4 Dead 2 files and have been implanted into everyday play unless playing on Official Valve servers. Blue and green shirt zombies are one such script. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garychios November 5, 2014 Share Garychios November 5, 2014 Pump, It cant be done. Crasx been working on it. So has Jackie. We cant thank or pay them enough. I am glad the workshop is disabled now. It showed light on many miracle plays from the past that were being questioned by admins. I have spent countless hours with admins reviewing demos. Those hours now make sense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpernickel November 5, 2014 Share Pumpernickel November 5, 2014 So there's only a master on and off switch for mods like there is for allowing campaigns on the server or not? I think disabling the workshop isn't going to curb suspicions of hacking too significantly. Again, I bring up alternative websites to get mods and the like. After all, hacking and cheating has been going on prior to the existence of the workshop. You can only regulate so many things. Might as well get rid of everything modded except for the server itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yortz November 6, 2014 Share Yortz November 6, 2014 Too bad, all my mods are survivor/infected/weapons skins, to make the game look a bit cool. Oh well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
san` November 6, 2014 Share san` November 6, 2014 So there's only a master on and off switch for mods like there is for allowing campaigns on the server or not? Basically, yes. It's a setting server side that requires all files to match the server. Not just workshop stuff, but any files that have been modified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpernickel November 6, 2014 Share Pumpernickel November 6, 2014 That's all the questions I have them. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs November 6, 2014 Share Biggs November 6, 2014 So there's only a master on and off switch for mods like there is for allowing campaigns on the server or not? Basically, yes. It's a setting server side that requires all files to match the server. Not just workshop stuff, but any files that have been modified. Is it possible to change server-side skins/textures and have those pushed to clients--Or would something like that have to be downloaded in advance by each player? I'm envisioning special occasions for themed nights.. don't know if that is feasible, though. Shame valve did not put in options to control this better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurderinClony November 6, 2014 Share MurderinClony November 6, 2014 Biggs, I was thinking something along those lines too, wondering if the server could have possible skin mods included but if the connected person doesn't have those, it reverts to the normal one, or if incompatible ones it reverts to normal. Not really a whitelist but more of the server having add-ons files other than maps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakgyrl510 November 6, 2014 Share oakgyrl510 November 6, 2014 (edited) what if someone had skin to show only hitbox shapes, its possible. HA. i dont know who would only want to shoot squares, but maybe they are circles who knows. lol Edited November 6, 2014 by oakgyrl510 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzul November 6, 2014 Share anzul November 6, 2014 well, there goes all my mele replacements, my B/W ghost vision, non-orange infected vision... and all my wallhacks, oh man... im gona miss those. kiding aside, its a freaking shame. i take it the add-ons server side that biggs and clony are talking about would be a bit too much on the servers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinbanks November 6, 2014 Share robinbanks November 6, 2014 I can understand why a change like this have happen but in the end I just can't support it. Call it for selfish reasons but many of us are thinking of the same thing and that we love our custom mods. Not the cheating ones of course, I don't use any of those and most of us as well (I hope). Is the cosmetics that changes the guns, survivors, infected, skyboxes or even ammo piles that brings more life to this game. We spent at least 1k - 4k hours in this game, I would want to see something different aside from the pale and boring design of the same thing EVERY day. Is frustrating for me that a few bad apples would affect the whole lot and we all got dump into the bin without even a headsup. Hell, if this really isn't open for discussion or debate of any sort, why not just lock this topic in the first place? Why can you not support this, If you can understand why this change took place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan November 6, 2014 Share JackieChan November 6, 2014 Guys, please read. A whitelist isn't possible. We have tried. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test November 6, 2014 Share Test November 6, 2014 Revert back settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garychios November 6, 2014 Share Garychios November 6, 2014 Last night was an eye opener. No more Super Human Star Players. Skeets were far less. WOW. You guys were all running workshop items? How unfair! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shippuden November 6, 2014 Share Shippuden November 6, 2014 Excellent, now everything will be fairer,Now I'll have to give my points,to more players xD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaftiel November 6, 2014 Share shaftiel November 6, 2014 lol, looks like server one has been dead for 12hours. People don't like the new order Shaftiel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meng November 6, 2014 Share Meng November 6, 2014 It's a bit dead in one server for a bit haha, no change to that : 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiXie November 7, 2014 Share DiXie November 7, 2014 I agree with Turbo. The past couple of nights have been totally different. Interesting indeed!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny November 7, 2014 Share Johnny November 7, 2014 Lol I run the game bone stock, but when I need a little boost.... !enableadminhax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenix November 7, 2014 Share Fenix November 7, 2014 I have always wondered about this in the past. You know how I have made claim that certain members were possibly botting or hacking, and now this makes complete sense. Even when the demos showed no one was aimbotting, the fact that they got so many headshots so easily made it seem there was something else giving those players an unfair advantage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what this is about right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garychios November 7, 2014 Share Garychios November 7, 2014 Yes Fenix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swatfishy November 7, 2014 Share swatfishy November 7, 2014 workshop mods don't give you better aim lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garychios November 7, 2014 Share Garychios November 7, 2014 No they don't, but what we saw showed a clear advantage for aiming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garychios November 7, 2014 Share Garychios November 7, 2014 By the way, I dont think not one Admin thought otherwise that it was not a clear advantage for using certain workshop items. I would say 100% of the admins all agreed that the stuff we saw clearly showed an advantage to the user having them. I feel we spent more time, trying to whitelist stuff (not me but Jackie and Crasx) and figuring out if it was bannable than anything else. We debated this a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General November 7, 2014 Share General November 7, 2014 I wonder how much better I would of been had I used these "advantages." Gonna miss Eren's scream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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