JackieChan June 19, 2016 Share JackieChan GC Alumni June 19, 2016 Announcing The "Better Late Than Never" Point Retention Update!(Because the word "retention" sounds cooler) *NOT LIVE YET* Thrown on the server already This new update will allow players who disconnect to retain their points for when they come back. This one is for you, frequent crashers. There are a few stipulations that must be met when resetting your points to what was lost when you crashed/timed out: -Map you disconnected on must match what is currently being played -It must be the same map half you played on when you disconnected (if the half ends when you come back, you won't get your points back) -The time in which you disconnected and reconnected must be within 3 minutes (this can be adjusted if necessary). I've been thinking about how to do this for a while and this appears to work in the extremely small scale I got it to work in...me and one other person. Along with this update, which I will add in the pinned thread, will also have the following changes: -Smokers will get slightly more points for damage -Jockeys will get slightly more points for damage -Hunters max damage pounce award increased to 8 to be a nice round number -Gas cans/fireworks will be 1 point more expensive -Gas can/firework limits will be reduced to 4 per player. Again, this update it not live yet. (Just the gas cans/fireworks tweaks are not live yet) Before it do so though, I'd like to gather some feedback first before anything changes...also to let you guys know what to expect and be aware if there any bugs or whatnot that happens to let me know instead of just it happening without me knowing...as I don't play L4D2 much anymore. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilkys June 19, 2016 Share Vilkys Member June 19, 2016 I'm ok with most of the changes, i don't agree with fireworks limit but there's melee and deagle to deal with commons. I expect a lot of complaints on the hunter so, I'm out of here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookie101 June 19, 2016 Share rookie101 Member June 19, 2016 I like every change that's being made,hunters getting upped to 8 points per max pounce is awesome!! But it will still take atleast 5 max pounces to get a tank,unless players don't kill hunter fast and let him get addition damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzul June 20, 2016 Share anzul Member June 20, 2016 -Smokers will get slightly more points for damage -Jockeys will get slightly more points for damage YESSSS Gas cans/fireworks will be 1 point more expensive neat. -Gas can/firework limits will be reduced to 4 per player. i rarely use more than 3 in any given map. any map that isnt mainstreet, sweet farming spot that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos June 20, 2016 Share Carlos Member June 20, 2016 (edited) Oh boy! That update of recovering your lost points once you crash sounds awesome!! Thank you for that On a side note: For those of you that experience game crashes every 90 minutes (approximately), I found a way to stop that. If you leave the GAME (NOT JUST the server, the GAME itself) and then rejoin the server, this will reset your future game crash. For example, if you play for about an hour, you're probably going to be more likely to crash within the next 30 minutes. Leaving the game entirely and rejoining the server is going to reset your game crash for another 90 minutes. This means you won't experience any game crashes if you use this counter-tactic. Trust me, it actually works. I know leaving the game and rejoining the server might be similar to crashing. However, you'll at least be in control when you leave the game instead of just crashing randomly in the middle of a round. I recommend leaving/rejoining the server once a chapter ends or something. Again, this is for the people that experience game crashes every 90 minutes or so. Hopefully, this update will allow you to retrieve your lost points once you rejoin the server after leaving Edited June 20, 2016 by Carlos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias June 20, 2016 Share Elias Member June 20, 2016 Carlos will love this 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordbaby June 20, 2016 Share lordbaby Member June 20, 2016 9 points for max sounds more sexy, still need 5 max to get tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias June 20, 2016 Share Elias Member June 20, 2016 Speak of the devil. As soon as I posted. DammitCarlos! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan June 20, 2016 Author Share JackieChan GC Alumni June 20, 2016 Oh boy! That update of recovering your lost points once you crash sounds awesome!! Thank you for that On a side note: For those of you that experience game crashes every 90 minutes (approximately), I found a way to stop that. If you leave the GAME (NOT JUST the server, the GAME itself) and then rejoin the server, this will reset your future game crash. For example, if you play for about an hour, you're probably going to be more likely to crash within the next 30 minutes. Leaving the game entirely and rejoining the server is going to reset your game crash for another 90 minutes. This means you won't experience any game crashes if you use this counter-tactic. Trust me, it actually works. I know leaving the game and rejoining the server might be similar to crashing. However, you'll at least be in control when you leave the game instead of just crashing randomly in the middle of a round. I recommend leaving/rejoining the server once a chapter ends or something. Again, this is for the people that experience game crashes every 90 minutes or so. Hopefully, this update will allow you to retrieve your lost points once you rejoin the server after leaving Yeah, this has been something I've been meaning to add for a long time, but couldn't think of a way to do it. I was thinking "cookies" would be the answer, but again, didn't know how to implement it. Figured out how and thanks to a short spur of time to Dixie and then the next day Peanut for testing it with me, I got it working for myself. I'll just have to add it on the server in a large scale...the Point Retention first, then the other changes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan June 21, 2016 Author Share JackieChan GC Alumni June 21, 2016 On a side-note, Carlos, any time when you actually disconnect from the game be it a time out due to a crash or manually disconnect is when it grabs the data it needs for when you rejoin the server. I was using a forward native called "OnClientDisconnect" to gather the data when you disconnect...not knowing it ALSO fires upon map changes which I find a bit misleading. So I had to hook the actual engine event instead which is used for when players actually leave the server (due to manually dc'ing or timing out) and not during map changes. Again, if any bugs occur, please post in this tread informing me of such and try to be as descriptive as possible (time it happened, when it happened, did you just connect, what was going on when it happened, etc., etc., etc.). Since Carlos and Peanut seem to be fellow contenders of the "Crashing Bandits", I'll be counting on you guys to give me input as well...like if you actually get your points back or not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilkys June 22, 2016 Share Vilkys Member June 22, 2016 What if I crash then rejoin a different team, do I still get my points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos June 22, 2016 Share Carlos Member June 22, 2016 (edited) Last night, I tried my method of leaving/rejoining to reset my game crash. I rejoined my old team in that same round, but I didn't get my points I had before I left. I was in the infected team, and the map we were playing was Swamp Fever. I left/rejoined twice in that same campaign. The first time I exited my game ENTIRELY and rejoined the server a minute later; which is my method I use to reset my game crashes. The second time I simply left the server and rejoined again seconds later. I didn't recover the points I lost either way. By the way, I only experimented the point retention on Swamp Fever so far. I don't know if it works for the other campaigns. I'm not sure if you HAVE to actually crash in order to recover your points. I'll try investigating the point retention again later tonight, and let you know what happens. Edited June 22, 2016 by Carlos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan June 23, 2016 Author Share JackieChan GC Alumni June 23, 2016 Also guys, if you can, you can type in "!savepoints" or "sm_savepoints" (in console) to manually save the point data (even though it does it automatically) and you can view the cookie data by typing "sm_cookies" in console with one of the following: l4d2_points_pointcookie l4d2_points_mapcookie l4d2_points_timecookie l4d2_points_roundcookie You can't directly change the values for reasons obviously known, but you can view them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiXie June 24, 2016 Share DiXie Member June 24, 2016 Mmmmmm, cookies..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxRockatansky July 2, 2016 Share MaxRockatansky Member July 2, 2016 I suggest more points for the Jockeys, or achievements, when we have more than two Rydes (Going For A Joyride). the other infected have more achievements by skill, not the jockeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpenceTheChef July 2, 2016 Share SpenceTheChef Member July 2, 2016 Finally, the second fiddle infected get some point buffs. Now, if only we could get points/achievements for landing Rocket Jockeys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan July 2, 2016 Author Share JackieChan GC Alumni July 2, 2016 I really don't want to have to write a whole method on detecting that stuff just for Jockeys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxRockatansky July 4, 2016 Share MaxRockatansky Member July 4, 2016 Okay, learn to use the hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megahuddle July 16, 2016 Share megahuddle Member July 16, 2016 Yesterday on the first map of Dead center I was playing as infected. The server crashed just about halfway through. When i rejoined the server, the round had just begun and i was now on the survivor team, but with the 35 points i had previously farmed as infected prior to the server crash. Dunno if its fixable or even if its a problem that occurs frequently enough to be dealt with, but it made it a pretty easy round On a sidenote the enemy team had Peanut so we would have probably won either way:P -Bambi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan July 18, 2016 Author Share JackieChan GC Alumni July 18, 2016 Yesterday on the first map of Dead center I was playing as infected. The server crashed just about halfway through. When i rejoined the server, the round had just begun and i was now on the survivor team, but with the 35 points i had previously farmed as infected prior to the server crash. Dunno if its fixable or even if its a problem that occurs frequently enough to be dealt with, but it made it a pretty easy round On a sidenote the enemy team had Peanut so we would have probably won either way:P -Bambi Thanks for the report. I'll see if I can figure some way around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorCallahan July 26, 2016 Share InspectorCallahan Member July 26, 2016 (edited) Edit, wrong thread... Edited July 26, 2016 by InspectorCallahan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soap August 8, 2016 Share Soap Member August 8, 2016 Oh boy! That update of recovering your lost points once you crash sounds awesome!! Thank you for that On a side note: For those of you that experience game crashes every 90 minutes (approximately), I found a way to stop that. If you leave the GAME (NOT JUST the server, the GAME itself) and then rejoin the server, this will reset your future game crash. For example, if you play for about an hour, you're probably going to be more likely to crash within the next 30 minutes. Leaving the game entirely and rejoining the server is going to reset your game crash for another 90 minutes. This means you won't experience any game crashes if you use this counter-tactic. Trust me, it actually works. I know leaving the game and rejoining the server might be similar to crashing. However, you'll at least be in control when you leave the game instead of just crashing randomly in the middle of a round. I recommend leaving/rejoining the server once a chapter ends or something. Again, this is for the people that experience game crashes every 90 minutes or so. Hopefully, this update will allow you to retrieve your lost points once you rejoin the server after leaving why is your game crashing all the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos August 8, 2016 Share Carlos Member August 8, 2016 Oh boy! That update of recovering your lost points once you crash sounds awesome!! Thank you for that On a side note: For those of you that experience game crashes every 90 minutes (approximately), I found a way to stop that. If you leave the GAME (NOT JUST the server, the GAME itself) and then rejoin the server, this will reset your future game crash. For example, if you play for about an hour, you're probably going to be more likely to crash within the next 30 minutes. Leaving the game entirely and rejoining the server is going to reset your game crash for another 90 minutes. This means you won't experience any game crashes if you use this counter-tactic. Trust me, it actually works. I know leaving the game and rejoining the server might be similar to crashing. However, you'll at least be in control when you leave the game instead of just crashing randomly in the middle of a round. I recommend leaving/rejoining the server once a chapter ends or something. Again, this is for the people that experience game crashes every 90 minutes or so. Hopefully, this update will allow you to retrieve your lost points once you rejoin the server after leaving why is your game crashing all the time? My PC kinda sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilkys August 8, 2016 Share Vilkys Member August 8, 2016 My PC kinda sucks.You got a Mac not a PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test August 23, 2016 Share Test Member August 23, 2016 Is it possible to retain the other stats as well?? Because after you reconnect, these are all back to 0. Example: Survivors: CI killed, SI killed, Headshots, etc.. Infected: Survivors incapped, survivors killed, survivors charged, pounced, etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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