benjester

I will set up my brother's account tonight or tomorrow, and then post up the name if one of you could be so kind, as to donate your copy to him, I would be very grateful!!

i'm sure my brother will want a copy once he gets my current machine...

I want to become active in it... just don't know that much about it to start... got any good informative sites to start at?

good luck!!!

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that was great!!

that's a great message to send to kids these days... break the law... lie about it... get caught... fight the lawsuit, and lose... then try to get someone else to pay for it... that's right kids... right and wrong, who cares... responsibility is over rated anyways.

don't break the law, and it wouldn't be a problem.

I'm personally waiting on my build to see what shakes out. I'm anxious to buy now, since I'm not running any dual core yet... but still... I agree with cujo... gotta see how things play out.

Mine originated out of OH someplace...

received my case already... wow... fast shipping. Frys.com FTW!

yep, you can buy it seperately... good luck trying to install it... we've tried... and it is a no go.. the hardware support just isn't there...

oh I must have missed that... yeah, to my knowledge, you can't just buy os x to put on any machine... it has to be apple branded...

waiting to just buy the TF2 part.. but I will have it at some point.

yeah, they're called displaced windows users (ie - my machine died, is off for repairs, and i have to use "this thing.")

 

if only windows users could get past the "oh my, there's no start bar" and approach the UI with a logic based approach, they might not need to call you. then again, that's a life worth of windows training they'd have to undo, which takes about 5 minutes.

They are in no way "displaced windows users"... We use Macs for anything and everything publishing related here... most of our calls come from the Adobe CS suite workflow... currently CS2, and rolling out CS3 soon. But these people have been using Macs for longer then all of you combined. They were using Macs back during the powerpc chips.

I will admit, most of the world does not look at any computing experience with a logical approach. But that doesn't make all windows users dumb. I can put a Mac in front of my parents just as easily as a PC and they would still have the same level of difficulty. There is a learning curve either way.

And what is wrong with the start bar? The macintosh has a dock that you use to launch applications... our start bar and menu just have more things in it. You also have a menu at the top which lists all the running applications... again, no different.

Playaa mentioned hitting f11 and bringing up the desk stop... windows key + D does the same thing.

I will say this though... Our mac support RARELY ever has to re-install OS X... I mean they have a hard time remembering when they have had to... where as, windows does need to be re-installed at times to solve things. OS X in that respect is more stable... but again, if there was as much of a software development following as there is on the PC, I would say the macintosh platform would have more issues.

so far, all arguments have been opinionated for the most part... no solid argument either way... which tells me the platforms are equally great serving two different flavors...

I looked at that very board, and originally, I was going to use it... but I don't know if i will go sli yet. so I am getting the 680i... good to know I am not the only one making that decision.

Those are all the pieces that i'd order if ordering right now for myself except the mobo.

what mobo would you get?

i have a sniper on bf2142... although I can't remember what servers I play on...

oh wait... SOC something and DIG something... they are conquest servers.

well, unfortunately, we get more help desk calls for our mac community then pc... but hey, what do I know.

I did order it too. I should see it inside a week or two.

yeah me too mohawk... waiting for that 70 again could take awhile though... but 99 shipped isn't bad either.. no tax for wi.

congrats!! that's awesome!

In your vlc example, you admitted that the error still took place, it just keeps playing... so your idea of stable is as long as the stuff keeps chugging along, and you can "ok" out of errors, it's all good? That to me proves my point... the software is the problem, not windows.

and our mac staff doesn't support windows... they can't do anything more then reboot when troubleshooting is required.

thanks guys.

Yeah mags, I was looking for a better deal, but this is still acceptable to me since new egg is at 130 right now... so I'm ok at 97. Plus no mail in rebate which is also cool.

Here is the tentative build... I was waiting to order everything in nov... but the case came up on frys for 3 days only at 89.99... so purchased.

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishli...tNumber=8046367

It is all a matter of personal opinion or knowledge of the software. I can make a windows machine look just as pretty as a mac, and run just as smoothly.

PC's have a lot more software problems because there are more software developers creating software for the platform. Increase the macintosh software on the market 10 fold, and you would see similar support problems.

Visuals of any machine is personal preference. Personally I like the way the mac looks... but honestly, never been a fan because the market support just isn't there. a lot of my software doesn't run on a mac... And I really like the new titanium keyboards they have... but still wouldn't own a mac.

I also side with cujo on a lot of this... and I started with macs back in college... i work in a publishing company where half the computers are macs... but I still want to be able to build a system from scratch... and you can't do that with a mac.

Oh, and our mac support staff, all run boot camp, and run in Windows Vista most of the time...