BroiledDumplings

Don't you have GC servers on the "Favorites" list?

That's a good point. Never occurred to me to do that. Everything L4D2 loads up, I just see the servers on the bottom right and connect from there.

Thanks guys. I was able to resolve it when it didn't show by going into Versus > Team Versus > Then click on something Steam Servers? After a second, I backed out, and voila, the window came back.

But like yellow sun said, after several hours, the issue did seem to have resolved itself.

I can't seem to see the list of dedicated steam servers and connect to GC's servers. Anyone else experiencing this? I've tried restarting my steam client and the game a couple of times; the menu simply won't show up.

My vote goes to Applied Energistics, Bees, and Thermal Expansion.

 

@ Fenix, if you care about this server, I think you should read it, but if you don't well then, kudos for quick decisions

 

@robin, the changes wont happen instantaneously, but there will be a difference in how this server is played now and later down the road if this thing is implemented and there is a good chance people will start to think indivually instead of for their team

 

we can always revert back to normal if things start to look grim, but I'd say it's worth testing it out for a bit to see how it goes, you never know.

 

Ditto. With the rules of not rushing, I doubt that people's play-styles would change so drastically that it would become a catastrophic experience (aka The Road). Besides, if anything, I'd guess that people are MORE inclined to help each other as every last member contributes towards points. One person rushing along probably can't get as much points as 10 people moving ahead. 

Okay first of all it is an admins prerogative to scramble not one person on the losing team. It sounds like an admin put up a vote to scramble the teams, which they can do if the teams are stacked.  If no one votes or the vote loses due to majority not to, then deal with it, take a break, or move to the other server.  It is not fair to just decide against the vote to move people from their winning team, to the losing one, unless they offer and their are no objections, which it seems they did.  Why would anyone expect them to do more than that??

 

It is a competitive game, it supposed to have a winning team and losing one.  I get it, when the numbers get that far apart it sucks, but they put up a vote, it failed, they moved someone, that person left.  It happens, get over it or get out of it.

 

I think scrambling after every round is a bad idea.  It create more problems than it solves. How does anyone know if their team won or not, by the score at the end?  If you are on a different team every map, then what is the point of even playing this game.  If that's the type of game you want then play single player, this is a competition between two teams.

 

 

I believe paying $30 instead of $15 gives you an authority to do whatever you want. That's what is happening these days.

 

Lastly this is completely false, we have a set of guidelines that everyone follows.  If you have that much of a problem with it, then put your money where your mouth is and submit an admin application.

I noticed that you didn't address the OP's point about Merc engaging in taunts. If players are expected to follow the rules, I'd imagine that admins are to do the same. 

And you're right, this is a competitive game, but I don't think your attitude of "It happens, get over it or get out of it." is in any way positively contributing towards the issue of insanely stacked teams. There's a line between a competition and a waste of time. What I strongly suggest is finding some way to prevent this, or at least discussing it in a more fruitful fashion other than in a "man up or GTFO"-eque tone. 

I fail to understand the pleasure people derive from "owning" a clearly losing team by 1500-2000 points. I'd argue that your same argument applies: if they want to do that, they might as well play single player, cause the outcome is, most of the time, predictable.

I'm sorry to hear that happened. That must really suck. This is why I still believe that auto-scrambling every round should be at least tried on one of the servers to see how it goes (heck, if I can get a sample of a script of how these things work, I can even volunteer to write a script to make it happen). If admins do not want to dabble in moving people around, either because people will get frustrated, or ragequit for being "moved" to a losing team, then a system set in place where EVERYONE knows that they WILL be scrambled after each and every round will make things less frustrating.

Yes, although one consequence of auto-scrambling every round is that the points may be closer to each other, but I also believe that it will placate a lot of frustrations that inexperienced players will feel when they're going against players with hundreds of L4D2 hours under their belt (yes, hours does not imply skill in the game, but it is certainly positively correlated).

EDIT: Moreover, if one server implements auto-scrambling after each round whereas the other is left as is, players who are dissatisfied with one can simply move over to the other. Again, this is all just an opinion from someone who has just recently joined the server. =)

Until I learned about the concept of mains, I always thought that each player contributed to the team points as the game progressed. The concept of "mains" boggles my mind and I view them only as a byproduct of poor coding when the initial extension to allow for 10vs.10 was made (i.e., never addressed the points issue, but simply wanted more players in the game).

So yes, please put this in. 

Well Gummy, as you and I both know, the best L4D2 players have names related to food.

Good to know that I'm off to a headstart of the type of player I could become in 100 years.

I don't know if you remember Pump but I asked you to come into one of the servers one time about a guy who was throwing pipe bombs and mollys on the finale of no mercy trying to kill himself, that was him. Other than that incident I haven't seen anything else out of him.

He sounds like a swell guy with too much time on his hands.

By the way, this is his 6th ban, 3rd time permanently. 

3rd time permanently....makes me wonder if permanence has a different meaning on this site. lol.

Wow, no offense to Ashy, but that is SERIOUSLY douchey of him to do that.

I was there for this game. Mae was in the game as well as zero but zero had to leave due to family issues and mae had to go to the other server because someone was having a problem with friendly fire working.

 

People on both teams asked for a scramble to happen, not only did it not happen but Merc left the game. I put up a vote for a scramble but so many people raged that all it did was stack our team more. Far to often are there players, not just admin and members but ALL players who refuse to move over to the other team because theirs is winning. I'd rather be on the losing team and actually having to try than to just have a game handed to me.

 

Most of the regular L4D2 admin know who the regular every day players are and can easily tell when a team is stacked one way or another, if you're an admin who tries to keep teams even then thank you for that; if you're not an admin who does that, why? Stop letting the stack happen and do something about it. Otherwise what's the point of being an admin?

I was there for this game as well, as per the screenshots lol.

I left after the round Deadlock described solely because I felt that there was no longer any point to playing (i.e., 2k points vs 1k points is game over IMHO), despite being on the "winning team".

From my short time here, I've noticed that some players are simply "carries" (AKA so good at the game that they significantly influence the outcome and tip the scales in their favor). So although a scramble could work in theory, as it is random, I do not foresee it doing much if the "carry" player is still on the same team.

The only solution I can think of is to do an "auto random scramble" after each and every round. This should statistically yield a finale that is fairly close in points over an infinite number of games. This is not ideal, but if the suggestion is to do a scramble, then I say scramble after each and every round. The only exception would be during server event nights where it's members only, etc.

I honestly don't care if I win or lose in this game, but what makes it crazy fun is when the scores are INSANELY close (e.g., I believe I was in a No-Mercy game that had a difference of like 15 points at the finale, that was a rush).

Just my two cents.

EDIT: After reading murderinclony's post, you could make it a pseudo-random scramble as well, to prevent instances where only 1-2 people are swapped. That is, after each and every round, 5 players from each side will randomly be swapped. Or you could do a dice roll from 3-7, and whatever number is rolled will be the number of players that will be randomly swapped over. Just throwing ideas around. =)

I think Jackie may have been working on it.  Anyway it was fun doing a different campaign with everyone. We can do more of that soon.

It was fun....except that the map seemed a little long, even for the first map.

Though you could go into the L4D2 workshop and search for the map Urban Flight and subscribe to it. It will download the next time you start the game.

Is that map ever in rotation? I would if it gets played once in a while. 

Do I need to download any type of custom file and place it somewhere inside the steam folder, etc, in order to participate in tonight's custom map? Or does it auto-download like Team Fortress 2, etc? Or is it the Urban Flight campaign that is posted at the top of this forum section? 

Thanks in advance.

 

How long does it take to become a member? Is it instant the moment I paid $15? I'd like to join in on this fun. $15 for a night of fun, let alone a year is an amazing deal.

 

As long as you give up the correct Steamid your reserve slot won't take more than 6 hours to work.

 

Meh, it wants my billing address. Is it okay to just give a fake billing address? I try not to give out my address online/name unless if I absolutely have to.

EDIT: Nevermind, it went through even with a fake billing address. =) Hopefully I gave the right steam ID.

 

How long does it take to become a member? Is it instant the moment I paid $15? I'd like to join in on this fun. $15 for a night of fun, let alone a year is an amazing deal.

 

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i takes 1-2 days, or maybe instant if you pm the admins.

 

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How long does it take to become a member? Is it instant the moment I paid $15? I'd like to join in on this fun. $15 for a night of fun, let alone a year is an amazing deal.

He wasn't referring to you.

Shots fired. LOL.

 

 

Look at the date of the first post, Dump. It's a different person from who I know you're talking about. I'll be sure to watch him in the future. You weren't the only one complaining about him.

 

Edit: PM the names on here.

Yeah, I mean, it's a public server, and I think it's a little unrealistic to expect competitive-level gameplay from a public server.

Ha ha ha ha. You're serious? Play with the members and regulars and you'll see what kind of skill these players really bring to the table.

 

Don't get me wrong. I've seen a few pretty awesome players. Just being used to online gaming in general, I think having a coordinated team is always nice, but that has typically been the exception. I'm still new here, so maybe this isn't the case here.

Look at the date of the first post, Dump. It's a different person from who I know you're talking about. I'll be sure to watch him in the future. You weren't the only one complaining about him.

 

Edit: PM the names on here.

My bad. Didn't even notice the timestamps cause they were a little hard to see. Lol. Yeah, I mean, it's a public server, and I think it's a little unrealistic to expect competitive-level gameplay from a public server.

Was this hard rain? I've bumped into a few rather annoying players at this point. Telling people to not do sometihng is one thing, but then to taunt them and tell them that they're better off leaving the server is a whole other level of annoyance.