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After replacing my accumulator in my truck I realized that I could not do the installation of new freon because im not liscenced. The problem is that I need 3 pounds of R-12 to fill my system. However, I'm debating on switching the system to 134a. Here are the pros and cons i came up with.

 

R134a

Pros: Cheap and easy to find. Still manufactured. The new "Environmentally Friendly Standard"

Cons: Not as strong (doesnt blow as cold). Smaller molecule so systems are more leak prone.

 

R12

Pros: Strong and Cold. Doesnt leak as easily. Would save me money on not having to buy a compressor/condenser.

Cons: No longer manufactured. VERY expensive ($40 a pound :blink: ). "Not environmentally friendly."

 

Im wondering what you guys would do in this situation. The truth behind the R12 environment problem is a coverup so that the company that was producing it could renew their patent with a new type of freon :angry:. Would you spend the $40x3 = $120 plus a liscenced flush/charge, or would you purchase a new compressor/condensor for $500 and not have to worry about extremely expensive charging fees? Right now im leaning towards charging with R12.

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If you want to retro fit to the R-134a, you do not have to buy a new compressor. There are retro kit that allow you to convert from R-12 to R-134a. The kit contains new o-ring seals and the proper oil for the refrigerant.

 

 

 

I'm a service manager for an auto shop. I'll be happy to answer any questions anybody has.

 

 

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In that article it did state that it is harder on compressors that are made for R-12. How long do you plan on keeping your vehicle? It might be worth the investment for a new compressor if you plan on keeping it. R-12 cannot be produced anymore, but they still is a supply of it. But once it's all gone you'll be forced and the price of R-12 will just get steeper. I'll check on prices for the retrokits tomorrow. You will be able to do the retrokit, but you will need somebody certified to evac the system(create a vacuum) and fill it with new refrigerant.

 

 

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After replacing my accumulator in my truck I realized that I could not do the installation of new freon because im not liscenced.  The problem is that I need 3 pounds of R-12 to fill my system.  However, I'm debating on switching the system to 134a.  Here are the pros and cons i came up with.

 

R134a

Pros: Cheap and easy to find.  Still manufactured.  The new "Environmentally Friendly Standard"

Cons: Not as strong (doesnt blow as cold).  Smaller molecule so systems are more leak prone.

 

R12

Pros: Strong and Cold.  Doesnt leak as easily.  Would save me money on not having to buy a compressor/condenser.

Cons:  No longer manufactured.  VERY expensive ($40 a pound :blink: ).  "Not environmentally friendly."

 

Im wondering what you guys would do in this situation.  The truth behind the R12 environment problem is a coverup so that the company that was producing it could renew their patent with a new type of freon :angry:.  Would you spend the $40x3 = $120 plus a liscenced flush/charge, or would you purchase a new compressor/condensor for $500 and not have to worry about extremely expensive charging fees?  Right now im leaning towards charging with R12.

Do you have any friends in the home heating/cooling business? I had a buddy that did that for a living and he would charge/check my system for free every summer (his company paid for the freon). I know I used the old freon, cuz I have never had a car made past '87.

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