All of that aside, (Im not one for politics) What we should all really be tinkled about is valve hit physics, ie hitboxes. Now I know, thanx to my degree in physics, that some of the things that happen in this great game are bull. Take for instance the m4. All of us that were in the military know that if you stand 10 feet from someone with this weapon. aim and unload at full auto they die. In cs you can miss completely. P90 or c90 in real life, is designed to penetrate level 3 body armor at 100 yards but not sheetrock in walls. Why doesnt the 50 cal Deagle do the damage its supposed to? And why cant valve add new weapons to an already great game like a 44 mag revolver and a few new rifles? We have the SAW(m249) already how about an M60? maybe we need to petition valve to do some updates? I think what makes a lot of gamers angry is the fact that some other gamers are just good at the game and dont expect real world physics to be correct like when you unload at full auto with your ak at 5 feet and nothing, then they pop you once with a glock and dead. But thats just me, every game cant be perfect as we all know. But if issues like this are adressed many wont be so tinkled. And oh by the way, the AK 47 .308 round doesnt penetrate level 3 govt issue body armor at more than 50 feet. I know this because in Desert Storm we tested this one day when we were bored. Our M16a2 on the other hand did. (That was to settle an arguement someone had) Anyway Thanx, The Rev.