aMnesiac

You guys can't say this doesn't work both ways. Don't you remember Howard Dean in the 2004 election? One of the reasons he ended up not being the democratic nominee was because the media smeared him for "yelling" at a speech in a room full of screaming people. They played this clip over and over again. Later there was a follow up story that the loudness of his voice was due to the type of microphone (sound dampening) he was using and they played the actual footage of what it sounded like in the room. It was so loud that he could barely hear himself, so he raised his voice. Of course barely anyone saw the media actually apologize and by that time he was out of the race.

It's really sad to see people argue that the media is so biased in one direction, it works both ways. I'm not reading this forum either after today. It has actually gotten me really upset just how argumentative and dismissive people have gotten. From my point of view, it seems that certain people have disguised their dismissive arguments as debating and choose to ignore other peoples opinions. Good luck to you with that kind of attitude.

Here's "spin":

Palin was a member of the Wasilla, Alaska city council from 1992 to 1996 and mayor from 1996 to 2002. After an unsuccessful campaign for lieutenant governor of Alaska in 2002, she chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission from 2003 to 2004. She was elected governor of Alaska in November 2006 by defeating the incumbent governor in the Republican primary and then a former two-term Democratic governor in the general election. She is the first female governor of Alaska, and the youngest person elected to the position.

Recap:

4 years on the city council, 6 yeas as the mayor of Wasilla and 2 years in office as the governor of Alaska.

Obama is the first African American to be nominated by a major political party for president.[1] A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving three terms in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70 percent of the vote.

Recap:

7 years in a state senate and 4 years in the senate.

Conclusion:

So 12 years of experience in politics versus 11. She wins!

Wait, I'd take someone who has been in office in a state senate position and the US senate over a council member, mayor and governor.

She should take her kids along. She should not charge the state. The media should report news.

This statement is all that needs to be said, debating skills or not. Do other politicians do this? Yes. Are other politicians with as little experience as her in a position to potentially take over the white house? No. This just shows her poor judgment.

Awesome video.

Hey Chen about the Eye of Providence, according to good ole wikipidea...

"The later addition of an enclosing triangle is usually seen as a more explicit trinitarian reference to the God of Christianity."

Which would make sense.

Yeah I read that last night, pretty interesting stuff. They didn't have the summary up when I read it.

I think determining who won depends mostly on where you get your news and how it's spun. I'm pretty unbiased when it comes to voting and in my eyes, there was no possible way Palin won. In fact I've read some comments posted about articles from republicans that watched the debate saying that they won't be voting for Palin because she dodged the questions.

5 years ago? I was playing Lucas Arts graphic adventure games in the early to mid 90s...

Those were the good old days of Lucas Arts, they do suck now.

Not to detract from how you feel but can you imagine how the people that our country has attacked must feel like on a day to day basis? I'm glad I don't have to live with that kind of fear. Not to mention suicide bombings happening semi frequently, yeesh. Makes me thankful for what I have. I don't support the war but my heart goes out to the troops that have had to deal with the constant attacks.

I just put in $10 for this awesome cause.

Again, this is from the makers of Dark Age of Camelot. Their high end PvP (called RvR for Realm vs Realm) blew WoW's crappy attempt at PvP out of the water. It sounds like it's still doing that. I agree with what everyone said, their strong point was never high end PvE so it's probably better to stick with WoW if you like that. Still I'd give the RvR a chance in War, it will be fun.

I have to admit, some of the stuff we download off of www.hypem.com when we can't get it on beatport.

AWPs are dumb and only losers use them

Boooooo, L2P imo. This convo makes me miss the good ole days of stock west.

The cinematics for this game look pretty cool - I think I've learned my lesson with startup MMO's though (Hellgate London and Age of Conan were enough for me).

 

The modeling looks identical to WoW too:

 

WAR:

http://media.pc.gamespy.com/media/748/748723/imgs_1.html

 

WoW:

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/016/016985/imgs_1.html

Mythic did Dark Age of Camelot so the company is not an MMO startup. I'll add that their PVP was 1,000,000,000 times more fun than WoW. Their PVE wasn't as fleshed out so WoW stole the show there. Also, WoW took most of its ideas from the Warhammer universe. I'm not saying that Warhammer is going to blow WoW out of the water, but by no means is it going to be as bad as the two games you cited.

Edit: I totally disagree that the models look identical in fact you can see a drastic difference. WoW goes for the more cartoon/animation look and Warhammer tries to look more realistic. (Note: I don't think either hit the mark)

Hey guys, my friend and I have been mixing/producing electro since January and we've finally gotten to a point where we're ready to share our music with everyone. Here's a link to my friend's blog with our current demo mix and a track listing.

http://jx2sounds.blogspot.com/2008/08/mini...ight-to-be.html

We're getting ready for our first major show on the 31st of August and then we'll be working on a full mix. We've also produced some remixes which you can find on the blog I linked. We'll be adding them to our myspace page eventually.

http://www.myspace.com/integratemusic

The mix is short and sweet so we'll be handing it out trying to get gigs. Let me know what you think or just respond in the blog. Hope you guys enjoy it. Thanks again SJ for hooking us up with dreamhost.

Ok, that's impressive. (celemony) I'm sure the mix is too.

Sweet mo, why don't you put a CD quality version up?! I mix electro too with my friend. We just got the Pioneer CDJ 800s and I have old school Technics at my place. We have some ok mixes but we're going to be working on a demo. We also have a couple of remixes we're working on as well. Our first show is this Sunday.

What do you use to mix? I'm sure we have similar tastes if you're talking about European producers. DLing your mix now.

Justice is the electro group that has brought electro house music main stream. (Yes still many people haven't heard of them)

Their album cover has a cross on it (and the album title is cross) and a couple of their videos seem to show the ugly side of violence but in a way that mocks it and makes it look idiotic. They're not Christian from anything that I've read (or if they are they don't publicize it) and they use the cross as a symbol. If you look at their video for DVNO, it's all based off of old TV/Movie intros so you can tell they're big into imagery. So to answer your question, I'd say there aren't religious undertones.

Here's an interesting read on Justice and their use of the cross:

http://blog.beliefnet.com/idolchatter/2008...-at-justic.html

Oh and btw, I spin electro house and they were one of the biggest groups to really get me into that type of music. I used to listen to trance and once I discovered electro I haven't looked back.

wow this is cool. btw sj, i signed up for dreamhosters a while back using the info you gave me, thx again. this would also be helpful so if you have any invites left hook me up plz... sgonzalez12 at gmail. thx sj.

Off topic... BUT

best smiley EVER!

Yea there are more pages beyond the first one and he's adding stuff every day.

The potrait of a man gone mad. Enjoy!

The gameplay mechanics of COD4 feel good, but the way the game plays is not the kind of game I like. The teamplay aspect of TF2 is so much better than COD4, there's really no comparison. You can play with people and make it feel more like a team based game, but with the class system of TF2, there are few classes that can go commando and own everything alone. Also when you roll with a team of 8 to a control point, the battles can be intense and a lot more satisfying than anything I've experienced in COD4.

I also feel that they really worked on balance where as COD4 has the fun factor of hey now I'm rich (got 4-6 kills) and I can get richer (call an airstrike or a helicopter and blow everything away) while the poor stay poor. That to me doesn't really take much skill and ultimately isn't rewarding.

TF2 is also releasing new content (maps and weapon unlocks) which will change the feel of the game.

If you like games that use teamwork, I'd say go TF2. If you like a multiplayer experience that doesn't force you to rely on others as much, go COD4.

and they're no longer on the page... grrrrr. Too slow!