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I had a problem w/ a player today. Gave several warnings and banned him. Started as rushing and from there it was an expressway to hell. I would normally put this in source bans, but my account isn't working at the moment. zero : !warn balo rushing [GC] Warned baloo. They have 1/3 warnings. Leave the racism and ignorant behavior at the door. baloo : !warn zero cuck [GC] Common Assistance + 0.60 points Press the ZOOM key as ghost to change zombie class. (Infected) zero : !ban baloo 0 swearing

Do it, it will give Maestro something to do.

If games are unbalanced now, it's because of good teamwork vs. not or maybe new players disproportionate on one team. The games are much better now. If the teams were perfectly balanced all games would end in a tie. The team that works the best together, regardless of skill, will most likely win, since this is a team based game and not a single player game. When both teams team work together win, lose, or draw it's a great game.

I see what your saying, but honestly it seems like only one server is full at a time now anyways, partially maybe because it's the same old maps and the game itself is getting long in the tooth. I was thinking some custom maps might breath some life into the servers. It just seems like server 2 and 3 are just doing nothing most of the time. I guess a dozen maps were ambitious, but even a few might be fun. Not a big deal just thought it was a fun idea.

Another member came up with this idea casually in game last night, but it sounded like a good one. I don't know how feasible it is, but I figured I would put it out there and see if there is any input. What about making one of the servers a custom maps only server. It just does custom maps and maybe we get a dozen of them on there. Any thoughts?

I hoping it means leave it where it is for now and see what happens.

Ok, so what does that mean?? Can we keep the hunter where it is for a little while and see how it goes?

Or we can leave it where it is at

I guess at the end of the day no one has ever said in a game "this is ridiculous 3 tanks in two minutes...............someone has to nerf the jockeys" or whatever. The number one thing that seems to ruin a game is a few high pouncers on one team and none on the other. The other team doesn't have a chance. At 7.1 it's not even half. Which means you need 6 instead of 3. I don't know understand what the problem is. I am talking about balance. The best boomers, smokers etc... can get tanks, it just doesn't happen just outside the saferoom door and copy cat attacks to get near the same amount of points from attacking a single person. Almost everyone in the server agrees that the games are more fun and things seem to be more evenly matched over the SI classes. I have asked everyone in the server what they think about the new hunter setup and the response has been overwhelmingly positive. The little game the "high pouncers" play is prey on bots and new players and it sucks for everyone,and especially if you are a new player, plus the rest of the team is groaning at them a little bit. This evens things out a bit I think, and encourages new players and potential new members. The ONLY consequence of the point reduction is that it takes a little longer to get tank points, that is it. You are still getting very good points for a very short attack on a single player, plus the health damage that the team has to contend with. If that's "too much" for a few people, then I'll keep the 100 that are happy with it. Again if you just like the hunter, just be the hunter. The way the class works hasn't changed one bit. The very best charge attack won't get you a tank in 3 charges - but it's hard enough to pull of once charge, much less charge the whole team in the process The very best jockey attack might get you a tank in 3 tries, but I challenge you to hold on to one player for 30 seconds 3 times in a row inside of two minutes. The very best smoker attack would have to be the same. The very best boomer attack maybe, but you would have to pull it off 3X and one person may be able to do it, but not 3 and the boom itself causes no health damage.

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Elias this kind of reinforces my point. The fact that you are doing the damage only compounds the issue I have. I can boom all 10 survivors, I may get the points, but do zero damage. I may get the charge, but do very little damge, same with the other classes. The way it was and is you get the health damage compounded with the points towards tank etc.. If I receive 10 smokes, 10 charges, 10 jockeys, 10 booms, but my team mates only allow the attack for a fraction of a second I'm still on my feet, but the hunter would incap me in just what 3-4 for what a second or two worth of attacks?? C'mon really?? AND get the points.

On the boomers - yes but you have to hit 10, and the guy right behind you can't duplicate what you did a second later. What I am talking about is if you have 3 high pouncers and they all hit the same person, due the getup or the fact they are incapped, you can have 3 tanks in a couple of minutes. That will never happen with boomers. I also don't play the hunter often, but I don't get tank points in 2 minutes, nor will anyone else. The only other possibility of that is with a crazy spit, but thats an attack on many players lasting several seconds and in combination with chargers, jockeys, hunters, smokers. You will never get a spit like that, just spitting, because the players are not pinned, and any subsequent attack in that situation are going to be far fewer points because of the incap points you won't be getting if they are already down. hunter points max pounce - you aren't getting maximum possible points with any other SI either. the boomer attack is a fraction of a second, but it's on many players and only 1.79 points per player, not 7.1 or 12.5 on one player. on the chargers - next post "nerf the charger" - I'm kidding, but those kind of points you are getting an attack on many players not one and not for a fraction of a second. No one (let alone 3 or 4) has gotten a tank in 2 minutes from charges, even though you are successfully attacking many players, not just one. No matter how you look at it, even with the nerf. The hunter is getting more points for one attack on one survivor lasting a fraction of a second. No other SI comes even close. No one (let alone 3 or 4) has tank point in 2 minutes with any other class on it's own and on one person, it just doesn't happen period. Pound for pound it is still the most damage for the attack given and the time the attack lasts. You an spit someone to DEATH, you can charge someone to DEATH, you jockey someone to INCAP, you can boom someone the entire round, you can smoke someone to DEATH. Do you have any idea how long and how difficult it would be to pull off an attack like that, and you still wont have a single tank, let alone 3 or 4. They do happen, but not often, and 3 people doing it, and not in 2 minutes of every single round. Yet w/ a hunter you can pounce one person, who maybe helpless to move out of the way, and have 1-3 people getting tanks and they didn't even kill a single person. How is that not stacked EXTREMELY in one classes favor??

Wow we are really getting off the reservation. It's this simple NO other class gets that many points for a fraction of a second attack on one player only, and no other class gets to stack the same amount of points in subsequent attacks on the same person pinned to the ground and/or getting up. If one boomer booms the entire team, you can't come in with a second boomer a fraction of a second later and get the same amount of points as the 1st boomer did, in fact you get none. In order to get a 10 point charge you have to hit 10 players or hit 7 players and pin the guy awhile, not one player for a fraction of a second and a subsequent charger isn't going to get the same points a fraction of a second later, due to the scatter and you are highly unlikely to get a charge like that 3 times in a row, more like 3 times in a year. No other class gets to exploit the false ceilings for attacks to get these points. I realize it takes "skill" to get a high pounce, but if you are getting 7 points from an attack that lasts a fraction of a second on one player, you are still getting more points than any other class period end of conversation. So if it really is all about the skill of the hunter attack then nothing we've done here is affecting your gameplay. You are still getting more points for a fraction of a second attack one player than any other SI in the game, that is an indisputable fact, so this argument about it's harder to do so you should get more points is BS, you ARE getting more points for it already. So there's nothing more to b*tch about, you can still do that all you want.

mrzombieland, I guess the consensus is that this could've been a glitch of sorts. I had just never seen it before, but everyone says you've been playing here a little while with no problems. I will lift the ban and I apologize if the mistake was mine. You should be able to play again in a few minutes.

Let me consult with some other admins on the issue to see if this "bug" has happened before. I will get back with you soon.