FORZ

Rofl after jumping on the server I have to give u guys a good game on the not allowing people to join unless they set it to 0. Hope gc stays alive trying to get people to change there configs. Mit work well now but your future will be short so gg.

I'll honor my word. You set it to zero (and keep it there) and this matter is resolved. Use the new cvar that allows admins to check cleints settings u will notice that nobody is using zero. There is no need for it. You don't know this. It's a hypothetical. E-mail valve and ask them this going to be enforced this is not going to be undone any programs that are used to exploit it back to 0 will be fixed with-in days. It took 3 days to fix the last exploit that allowed server to change it. It is in no way shape or from hypothetical to think a company will not follow up on a exploit that is being abused by admins. They have already fixed it 2 times with-in a month why wouldnt they keep fixxing it if someone keeps breaking it. 1) If you have your config toggled to read only, no one can permanently tamper with your config. When cl_restrict is set at 0 this allows any admin to run 3rd party programs and force the cleint to any cvar there is, Setting the config to read-only does not affect 3rd party apps from enforcing set rates or cvars during gameplay I have already stated this. Only when 1 is set it will stop an admin from forcing rates or cvar. When read-only is set it will only allow u to revert back to your orginal config when u leave the game and re enter it does not stop people from inforcing certain con cmds while playing the only way to stop this is to us cl_restrict 1. 2) GC admins will not maliciously tamper with a config. In fact, I'm a little insulted that you would suggest that. If you have evidence of such an act, please PM me with the information and I will personally deal with that admin. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I'd be highly skeptical. I have stated time after time after time that i am not worried about gc. 3) Every player must conform There is no way u can stop someone from joing your server that has it set to 1 use the new cvar added to allow admins to see the cleints setting and u will see u have a big number of people on the server right now with the setting at 1. I only have one ? left duke. Is gc currently enforcing cl_restrict 0? If so how is gc currently enforcing it? Is gc using the new console cmd to see who is and isnt using 0 are gc admin currently banning people that are setting it to 1? I played on the server for an hour or so the other day with it set at 1 on a friends account at his house had no problems at all playing with it set to 1. Not one single admin said a word. How come any joe blow off the streets can come in and have it set to 1 and nothing happens. But u want me to set it to 0. It just dont make sense duke I am realy trying to see where gc is going with this and I am realy trying to see why u are trying to force me to have it set to 0 but are not enforcing it to 0 on any other cleint that joins the server. I have tested on 3 accounts and had more people test using vent. anyone can join the server with 1 and your admins are not currently enforcing anything except on me Why?

I have no clue where we go from here u said u would remove the bann if i agreed to set it to 0 but the update set everyone back to 1 and locked it so servers will never be able to do it again and even if it gets bypassed it will be patched with-in days. So this leaves me at the point where gc is asking me to allow anyone to mess up my configs in favor of playing on there sever when nobody else that plays on the server has to do the same. So I dont know where we go from here duke I can agree to set it to 0 but there isnt realy a point considering everyone else is using 1 and there is no way for gc to enforce 0. considering they fixed the plug-ins to work when the cleint is set at 1 on gun game and dm and zblock is now gone everyone should be running 1.

Only 1 comment, huh?

I also I have never stated that I wouldnt set 0 to play on a sever I said I would have to go out of my way too. I Also only posted a script that told everyone it was in affect by using a say cmd that way anyone that used it would be quickly spoted on the sever, the echo cmd could have been used to hind it but i didn't post it specificly for that reason. it was meant to be disscussed in that thread I wasnt trying to give everyone and there bother a free way around your choose as a sever owner. I was trying to give back there right to choose. I think gc does have right to do what it did i didnt agree with the way it was carryed out I thought of it as sneaky and distrustful.

You're missing the point. It's not a question of whether you were exploiting or hacking. I think we can both agree that those weren't the best words to use and that you did not commit either act. You were banned for your antagonistic and impertinent behavior. I've read the logs and your posts and it appears that you were looking for a fight. Your actions were antagonistic, yet you claim you weren't trying to be. It just doesn't make sense. Explain to me why you chose to cause a scene on the server rather than post up in the forums? Everybody else that catches wind of a problem sends a PM, posts up or sends us an email. You just did it in this thread, why couldn't you have done it in the beginning and avoid all this drama? Umm ok one commet hardly makes someone antagonistic or looking for a fight or make a scene. I guess if u feel that way its ok and I guess if the admin feels that way its also fine. but one comment hardly makes someone looking for a fight there where are a 1000 other things I could have said to start a fight it wasnt my intent. I did leave the sever, I did post in the fourms it was deleted. There was no scene on the sever there was one comment made by me the other comment was tiggered by the pulg-in once again I was unware that gc was running the plug-in until con asked and was never asked to remove it. I did post in the fourms to debate it. I also did send Pm's ask john to post them for u if he wants. I asked Who was on con to talk to them about it they didnt feel the need to answer. So I went straight to the fourms just like where supposed to and post then made pm's just like we are supposed to. I was banned without even a chance to fix said problem. Even if u count the bind that was triggered by the plug-in it was hardly a scene on the sever I have seen people stay on the sever after doing much much worse and they wherent even gc. As for the admin waiting till I left and trying to disscuss it father with nicole the admin in ? is fully aware that nicole doesnt do her config I do. The admin choose to disrupt the sever when he could have just disscussed it with me when I was on the sever trying to or sent me a pm either one, There was no need to drag it out on the sever and disscuss something with someone when they dont even understand and u are fully aware they dont. Also considering the admin also new that u had to leave and edit the config to fix said problem the admin shouldnt have banned both accounts right away after asking for it to be removed. I thought we asked and if they didnt compile we banned not ask and ban till they fix how do u know if they fixed it if they are banned lol. Think about this how many GC menbers have been banned for one single comment on a sever even if the comment was a anatagonistic. I would also like to ask how many admins would ban a gc menber for making a single comment. k John

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Lunk, I didnt leave I dont know where u got this from. If it was the gg final words post I made this post, was made because I was banned and gc made it clear that they wherent going to undo it even tho I proved i was not exploiting or hacking. so I posted that because I figured the thread was soon to be locked. Why would I go throw all the trouble of making all those post and spend so much time in the got banned trying to get gc to understand what was happening was wrong if I was leaving. U can even check about 2 post up from john's post where he locked the thread its says I didnt leave it said I was banned. I have to say I am a bit diappointed in gc and action not mine. This post is not anatagonize anyone it is to fix a wrong that has been done. I was trying to tell gc it wasnt right. Reason for unbanning me: "The bind has been set that way for other sever didnt even know gc was running this pulg-in. as for the other comment dont take it out of context. I joined my bind was triggered by your plug-in. I was then greeted with con asking what its was or something simliar I stated that it was a lock on cl_restrict cmd CON said "the plug-in forces it on" I said "to try do anything to me" to prove that it was locked I then asked who was on con got no reply nicole joined and i left after a min or 2. Con then told nicole that she need to change it or something she left mean while I was making a post to debate the issue witch was then deleted witch could have been edited considering it had usefull info in it even without the so called expolit. I go to try to get on the sever I was banned." This is my case lunk the above quote and one more thing I would like to add the admin was on when i was in the sever made no mention of changing anything admin waits till I leave then says I am going to bann him and not even give him a chance to fix it considering I didnt even ask him to fix it. The admin told nicole she needed to fix it, while I was making a post by the time I was done posting I was banned Not even 5 mins I didnt even rejoin the server so there was no way for the admin to see if i had fixed it or not before banning me. Considering That they have fixed the ability for severs to change the cmd. They have said that its not acceptable to do this just as all of my post where trying to tell u guys. Considering that Gc shouldnt have been doing what they did. I ask to unbanned on the grounds that it wasnt right nor far and there isnt realy a reason that I was banned because now everyone that owns cs is doing the same thing.

Source Engine * Fixed Garry's Mod servers not being listed in game * Added cvars to let the server prevent clients setting unreasonable network settings: sv_mincmdrate, sv_maxcmdrate, sv_client_predict, sv_client_interpolate, sv_client_interp, and sv_client_cmdrate_difference * Added protection against servers manipulating the cl_restrict_server_commands cvar * Allow servers to execute the "play" command on clients * Added an interface to allow servers to query most cvar values on the clients * Added the IP address of the machine who executed an rcon command to the server logfiles * Fixed spectator relaying in SourceTV * Removed cl_cmdbackup

"okay I sent you a PM Forz, can we figure a better way of communicating rather than banning? haha, no problem though, its just kinda frustrating on my end." banning= the fastest way of getting someone into the fourms off the server. Its better for us to just get out of the server let everyone play. while we talk about it in the fourms. Most of the time when a player gets banned its to bring them to fourms to let them know how things work and what we expect out of them if they want to be players on our servers. Its the not always the friendlyest way but its the most effective. I have your pm I think we have things worked out and u are allowed to return to the server as soon as I can get u back on we may not be so friendly next time even if its a simple bug it is still consider a exploit.

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GG guys nice to see u all we will for sure have to do this again. if we smack john around maybe he will upload the pictures.

I have 3 single core P4's with ht. Maybe i'll take some benchy when I get a chance. One with orginal q4 out of the box and one with the current patch. Both of them once with HT and once without.