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As san' said, this post isn't aimed at you, but at everyone who plays as a reminder. In the last week alone, I've seen people making rude/snide comments about people's tanks, and their tactics in general without offering any kind of advice other than being a jerk. You say L4D2 is a dying game and has very new players, and if that's true, then we've got to welcome as many new players as we can rather than have them leave for a different server because of the treatment of the regular community. I was there for the game san' mentioned, and it was infuriating to see people let a new player die while they stood around and didn't even offer him advice. He shouldn't have gone to where he did, it's a popular ambush spot, but perhaps he wasn't used to playing with so many people, and wasn't expecting the attack. No one said "You shouldn't go in there mate, it's a death trap", they just made comments about how he should learn the game and the !buy system. He left shortly after, haven't seen him since. That guy could have one day been a regular, or even an admin, but because of the way his team behaved, I doubt he'll be back. This is the kind of thing I don't want to see happen again, regardless of who the person is, because it's exactly the kind of behavior that we don't want to see within GC. In regards to "just play and stop crying"... heh. This post isn't aimed at you as I've already said, so lay off the attitude. I'm not crying about anything with this post, just trying to encourage people to be a bit more friendly to newer players and members on the server. If you've got something constructive to say, by all means, say it.

which is what im saying LAWL we are all human we make mistakes and im def not pointing fingers. most of the admins that know me know i will either back them up or tell them when they messed up. all im saying is the rules must imply to everyone including admins and if admins dont follow it then they should def be punished more than regulars. honestly in most gaming there's goin to be some lip but i understand this is gc community so their rules is the law but again everyone must follow it otherwise there's no point to it. Aye, as Peanut said, if you see an admin break the rules in a way that we'd punish a member for, get in touch with a board member and talk to them about it. I know that mistakes happen sometimes and we get frustrated, but it's when people constantly behave this way that a problem arises. We can talk to fellow admins and tell them "hey, knock it off please?", but we can't can't enforce rules on them because they're the same rank as us, it needs to be handled by a board member, even one so newby as Peanut Thanks Stutters, pretty much sums up what I was trying to say

You see that title? It's a shame it doesn't seem to be more prevalent in the community. I've had the thought to post this topic for a while, and last night had me decided that it was high time someone reminded people of this. We're meant to be a welcoming community, one that allows players of all kinds to come and play in a friendly server that isn't heavily modded to a ridiculous extent, where the players will teach you how to play, and you can make friends that you'll spend hours a day playing with. Not just lately, although it does seem to be getting worse (or at least more noticeable as of late), I see well-respected members, regulars and even some admins act like complete jerks to new players that join the server. These people might be joining completely blind, having no experience of Left 4 Dead 2, or they might have some campaign/versus experience, but nothing compared to a 10vs10 modded server. Rather than be welcomed and taught, they're shouted at, berated and insulted. I get that it can be frustrating, having someone so new that they're acting idiotic in the server, but we were all new at some point, and I sincerely doubt that any of you could have played well enough to please your team if you only had 5 hours total L4D2 played. Perhaps you weren't taught at all by members, and you stuck around and learned by trial and error, but that's not the way you should expect other people to be treated, and definitely not the way you should treat them yourself. If you see someone new doing something that's dumb, you tell them politely that they shouldn't do that, and they should do something else. Explain to them "It's best not to go in that house, because you can be ambushed away from the rest of the team" rather than having three different people yelling "DON'T GO IN THE HOUSE" repeatedly, and then saying "screw it, just leave him to die if he's going to be an idiot." I've been with GC on and off for over 4 years now, and if this was the kind of behavior I found when I first joined, I wouldn't have stayed. I'd have thought to myself "You know what? Screw this server, if people are going to be jerks to a new guy, I'll find somewhere else." We don't kick for skill, so that person has just as much right to play here as those of you who have thousands of hours, and they shouldn't have to be treated like poop. Sometimes, people aren't going to listen to you, even if you politely tell them what to do. Some people just don't listen, and it happens. It's frustrating, but you know what you do then? You keep your fingers away from your mic key, and you don't activate all/team chat to type something out if it's not going to be productive. Talk poop about that player to your friends if you want, via Mumble or PM, but keep that behavior out the damn server. It's not helpful, and it's not the kind of community that GC is. To sum this whole wall of text post up, I'm going to point out the #1 rule in GC, and I'd advise that some of you take note of it and try to follow that rule a little more, because I am personally tired of seeing new players treated like dirt, and I'm going to start cracking down as of now on players that consistently create a toxic atmosphere in the server. http://gamrs.co/forums/index.php?/topic/34619-gc-rulescode/?p=421793

IT WAS 2AM, I WAS TIRED AND YOU'RE SLIPPERY!!!

So just to clarify what happened, Yortz gave away his contest prize of a year's membership to Elias Perez, which was patched in today Thanks for the laughs everyone, it was rather entertaining to see some people try their hardest to kill me but never succeed, and then have some git like Yortz kill me multiple times. I felt like Peanut!

I like this idea

Gandalf makes a (surprisingly) good point, the rate at which even a good tank can be destroyed by automatic fire by survivors is insane, and I think a nerf on bile would make sense if survivors also got this update

^

Calling people "babies" because they don't agree with an opinion you hold doesn't exactly make people inclined to take your argument seriously.

I want an infected upgrade that makes the tank slightly faster and stronger if it's on fire Say, a base 25% increase to movement and attack speed if it's burning, 25 points to buy?

I do if someone doesn't get to it before me

I want my +5 points if my witch kills someone

/rename Elite "wHiNeR" In all fairness, I remember three occasions of this First occasion, I did it for a joke and re-joined a few seconds later, and you still got a counted kill. Second time, I left just as you killed me, and while the achievement didn't pop up, I still counted it as a kill for you (as I told you at the time numbnuts ) Final one was end of the second level of No Mercy, where you used the car on me. I went !afk as a joke, rejoining again about 5 seconds later, but you didn't come back and finish the kill, so I ended up bleeding out ^^ Each time, the kills you should have got were counted, so you lost fair and square at the end of the day lad

Twice actually... and abused both times >:]

Carlos has a point Johnny, and I know we played a decent amount of games together this month

Pretty much every time you did that, I'd just wait until 30 health left or so before I'd buy up, so my team had a chance to rip you apart from pew pew guns

And we have our winner in Yortzipie! I wasn't able to play quite as much this last week as I hoped cos of real life stuff happening, but I hope everyone had a chance to get some tainted meat Thanks for competing, you can all go back to not targeting me now because it's more annoying than you'd expect

It's been a mad couple of days because of bathroom work being done at my place, but I'll try to be around for a good couple of hours tonight! While it seems like the competition is basically Gandalf vs Yortz atm, I bet a good run by Carlos could perhaps snatch a victory? I'll count any kills done on me tonight, but once I leave for the night, it's the end of September and the competition is over Happy killing ladies

Carlos got a kill on me a while ago that I forgot to add to the list, and that git archer got me again, competition is still going strong between Gandalf and Yortz

The kills have slowed down (even when I have been ingame), but the competition between the top two is still going, as both Gandalf and Yortz_the_Tainted_Slayer have 8 kills each

I dislike Gandalf. </3

THERE ISN'T AN APPROPRIATE SMILEY FACE TO USE TO ACCURATELY DESCRIBE THE RESPONSE THAT I WISH TO GIVE YOU MASTER CARLOS! I don't always update the scoreboard straight away, but I write down each kill as it happens, so I usually update first thing in the morning when I check GC

Yeah, Yortz is probably the worst (best?) for going deliberately only for me the entire round, it's hard to fight off constant Infected, especially when one keeps targeting you and has a nasty habit of getting the scripted tank