Birdman March 2, 2004 Share Birdman Member March 2, 2004 ++++++++++PCmark 2002:+++++++++ <<<<<<<<<<<<<7074 CPU>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<5851 Memory>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<1130 HDD>>>>>>>>>>> ill have to get the newer version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickfoot March 2, 2004 Share quickfoot Member March 2, 2004 all specs below are current this is the results from a cold boot, the memory will be much higher cause its a pentium. pcMark 2002 CPU 8159 Memory 11038 HDD 2189 congrats on the new hardware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman March 2, 2004 Share Birdman Member March 2, 2004 u got water on that system quick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin March 2, 2004 Share Justin Member March 2, 2004 (edited) cross your fingers on that gigabyte mobo homer, I just built a new machine last week. amd64 3200, gigabyte k8n pro, maxtor 160gig serial ata, corsair xms pc3200 (512), combination dvd-r,dvd-rw,cd-rw (sony), x-dreamer case, PNY geforce fx 5950 ultra, cooler master aerogate II temp moniter + fan control, rounded ide cables, uv reflective wire looms, blue cold cathodes, and 6 new fans. I build the machine last week, and the mobo went bad yesterday. Now I have to drive 3 hours to exchange it IF they have any in stock. Needless to say I'm not exactly happy right now =\ Edited March 2, 2004 by Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco March 2, 2004 Share wilco Member March 2, 2004 No tweaking involved....installed the programs and ran them...1024x768x32 3D Mark 2003 5782 3D Mark 2001 SE 18537 Will DL and run the PC Marks later on. Homer - Nothing special as far as my HDD's I have a 60 gb and a 40 gb ide both western digitals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman March 2, 2004 Share Birdman Member March 2, 2004 Post in here too http://www.gamrs.co/forums/in...=29&t=7859&st=0 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ +++++++++3d mark 03:+++++++++ ***************6478***************Fully tweaked catalyst 3.9 with CPU @ 2257Mhz ++++++++++3d mark 2001:++++++++ >>>>>>>>>>> **18007**<<<<<<<Quality settings <<<<<<<<<<<<<18925>>>>>>>>>OC'd a lil' to 2433Mhz ++++++++++AquaMark3:+++++++++ <<<<<<<<<GFX score: 6048>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<CPU score: 7603>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<AquaMark score: 43005>>>>>>>> AMD 3000+ @2.2Ghz 512mb pc3200 Crucial ram ATI 9800xt 256mb (was a 9600non-pro) Abit NF7-S Ver. 2.0 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickfoot March 3, 2004 Share quickfoot Member March 3, 2004 I dont have h20, but i do have slk 947-u 92mm tornado(with fan speed controler, damn its loud stock) NOW back to homers benchmarks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman March 3, 2004 Share Birdman Member March 3, 2004 I dont have h20, but i do have slk 947-u 92mm tornado Good heatsink man. I run a SLK-800 with a 50CFM Sunon fan. Homer, give us numbers please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiZad March 3, 2004 Share RiZad Member March 3, 2004 bird we are need to have an overclocking showdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman March 3, 2004 Share Birdman Member March 3, 2004 bird we are need to have an overclocking showdown Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer March 3, 2004 Author Share [Mmmm]Homer Member March 3, 2004 Welp, all my benchmarks are currently 0. I can only think that I have a DOA mobo at this point. Everything is torn apart on the old system and the new system is assembled but nonfunctional. I've eliminated the RAM, PSU, new case power switch, probably the CPU........ WAIT!!!!!! Stroke of inspiration......drum roll please...... unplugged the non-Gigabyte USB connector from the Antec case, it's one of those with the one piece connector, not individual connectors....and.....it powered up! w00t! Back in the running now but I've lost a couple of hours. Whew, RMA is such a pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer March 3, 2004 Author Share [Mmmm]Homer Member March 3, 2004 Ok, I installed Windows XP in 14 minutes. Got all the updates and installed benchmarks: 2001se: 13261 (was 10500 on my XP2400+ system) 2003: 1804 PCMark2002: CPU 6535 MEM 7555 HDD 1124 PCMark2004: 3768 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer March 3, 2004 Author Share [Mmmm]Homer Member March 3, 2004 Wilco, I saw your 3DMark scores in the pinned thread, but what are your PCMark 2002 and 2004 scores? Initial impressions: Fast, nice responsiveness but I didn't have time to install any games last night. The 3DMark2001 car chase high detail I did notice that my FPS were about double what they were with the XP2400+. Overall, I'd say that the A64 speaks nicely of the XP2400+ system - it's a jump forward but not a huge leap. I think that many mundane computer functions are limited by the base gigahertz of a system, ie A64/3000+ and XP2400+ are both around 2.0ghz, and many functions are done about the same speed on either system. I suspect that the heavy load under gaming will produce different results. It was nice that my Ti4600 had a little room to scale upward, I got about a 30% bump in performance. The RAID on this Gigabyte board is simply much better than the Promise RAID I was using. Subjectively I'd say it runs 15-20% faster, that's just in file transfers where no CPU load is really incurred. I ran Sandra burn-in wizard overnight and the case stayed at a constant 25-26c load or idle, the cpu idles at 35c and is at 42c under full load. The stock HSF on the A64 is a little louder than I had hoped. The A64 on-die heatsink makes the CPU quite heavy. The Antec case is awesome. I got this one. The 120mm fan is very quiet, I swapped out the 350w PSU that came with it for a Thermaltake 420 silent series one, which is fairly quiet. But the HSF can be heard over all of it. The drive bays are mounted sideways and have removable trays with rubber mounts, very nice touch. I had a Chieftec case with my old system which is basically the same as the Antec, but it really lacked alot of the small details and features that impress me about this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Kill3r March 3, 2004 Share All Kill3r Member March 3, 2004 woot, glad your happy with it homer, everything looks on par thus far, good temps too As for your record OS install times... HOW ? heh, it takes me quit a bit longer then you...... is no RAID 0 my pit ? Your pcmark04 scores is a lot lower then mine also ? Is that because i have dual channel on an intel rig ? pcmark04 - 4953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer March 3, 2004 Author Share [Mmmm]Homer Member March 3, 2004 PCMark2004 does include partial graphic tests and a big part of the score goes toward that. My DX8 GF4 card just can't compete, look for Wilco to post his scores now that he has a 9800 Pro and A64/3000. You impressive FSB helps you out too. I timed the 14 minutes from the time I partitioned the hard drive. It then did a quick format for NTFS and started copying files. The time stopped when it had rebooted the second time and was sitting at the WinXP desktop. If I added on the booting from CD initially it would probably add 3 minutes or so. I then installed the mobo drivers and SP1, then downloaded the remaining updates. Took about 1.5 hrs total for all that. Yes, I love RAID 0. As soon as I can afford a pair of WD Raptors I'll get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer March 4, 2004 Author Share [Mmmm]Homer Member March 4, 2004 I'm RMA'g this Gigabyte mobo. I think I'm going to get an Asus K8V Deluxe here locally. I could replace this one with a locally bought K8N Pro....hmmm. I can't get the system to POST if any supplemental USB cable is plugged into the motherboard. Windows Device Manager shows a conflict with the USB controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman March 4, 2004 Share Birdman Member March 4, 2004 Man that sux... I say go abit, but asus will treat you right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer March 4, 2004 Author Share [Mmmm]Homer Member March 4, 2004 RMAing the Gigabyte. In addition to the USB on the mobo screwed up the LAN was getting flaky. I'm not in the mood for issues. I bought an Asus K8V Deluxe locally, it's running fine with zero problems. The RAID was a little tricky to setup, getting the right drivers. The Silicon Graphics RAID on the Gigabyte seemed faster. It took 15 minutes to install WinXP on the Asus, still good though. With the Asus both hard drives are on the one channel that IDE RAID supports as opposed to the two channels I have used previously. Here's some quicky benchmarks on the K8V Deluxe: 3DMark2001SE: 13572 PCMark2002: CPU 6514 MEM 7820 <= better than the nForce3 chipset on the Gigabyte HDD 1185 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Kill3r March 4, 2004 Share All Kill3r Member March 4, 2004 that does suck, hope you get it all worked out quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco March 4, 2004 Share wilco Member March 4, 2004 Ill run the PC Marks for you tonight homer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco March 5, 2004 Share wilco Member March 5, 2004 Homer - PC Mark 2002 CPU - 6450 Mem - 8064 HDD - 676 PC Mark04 3920 no tweaking whatsoever As well as: 3D Mark 2003 5782 3D Mark 2001 SE 18537 again no tweaking ** Ill add this to the benchmark topic as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer March 5, 2004 Author Share [Mmmm]Homer Member March 5, 2004 Thanks Wilco. The Asus is completely stable, it's too bad the Gigabyte wasn't becasue I really like the Silicon Image RAID (I had previsouly called it Silicon Graphics, oops). But the IDE RAID on the K8V Deluxe is 95% as good. I should note that the K8V is not a mobo for a beginner to tackle. There is alot of confusion regarding which RAID controller to use and what driver to use for it. The board has 2 RAID controllers, one VIA and one Promise. The Promise will work for SATA or PATA (IDE), but the VIA is for SATA only. People get different benchmarks with different drivers with SATA drives in RAID 0 on each of the different controllers. Further, the manual calls the controllers by their chipset names, the sales literature by the "tradename", and the drivers on the CD-ROM use different names than either of those for the directory structure to find the drivers (which you have to KNOW to copy to a floppy and hit F6 when loading Windows, which alot opf people didn't realize). And the CD-ROM has RAID and non-RAID drivers for each controller compounding things! I spent a couple of hours going through the K8V Deluxe thread on Amdmb.com to get up to speed. If you look in there you will also find out about the dreaded "RLZ 0333" capacitors. Asus bought a batch of bad caps from a supplier and these would eventually boil over and ooze acid on your mobo! First thing I did before buying this board locally was tell the sales guy that we had to check for them or I wasn't buying. We looked and they are "RLX 0337" so I'm fine, it was only the one batch that was bad but some boards have a mix of good and bad. I think that most all of the bad caps were pulled by the end of January and everyone getting boards now from Newegg has not had a problem. Asus or your retailer will exchange your board with a new one if you have any RLZ 0333 caps as it is a known problem. For comparison I rebuilt my old system for the person I'm selling it to last night and the Windows install took 21 minutes, versus the 14 minutes on the new system. "old" system as configured to sell, 21 minute install: XP2400+ Abit AT7 Max 2 x 256mb PC2100 Simple Tech (check your local Officemax in-store specials) 1 x WD 160gb SE IDE ATi 7000 48x CD-RW WinXP Home w/ SP1 "old" system as configured as I used it, 18 minute install: XP2400+ Abit AT7 Max 1 x 512mb PC3200 Corsair XMS (running at PC2100 though) 2 x WD 80gb SE RAID 0 IDE GF4/Ti4600 48x CD-RW WinXP Pro (no SP1) "new" system as configured now, 14 minute install: A64/3000+ Asus K8V Deluxe 1x 512mb PC3200 Corsair XMS 2 x WD 80gb SE RAID 0 IDE GF4/Ti4600 52x CD-RW WinXP Pro (no SP1) Again, I measure install time from the time you hit "Setup Windows ..... NTFS (quick format)" to the time that I'm at the Windows Desktop. I'm there to input the COA key as fast as I can, as well as click through the other prompts that come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Kill3r March 9, 2004 Share All Kill3r Member March 9, 2004 12 minute full NFTS intsall to desktop after the reboot... why didnt the raid win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman March 9, 2004 Share Birdman Member March 9, 2004 Just checked my board and i got "RLY 1337" capacitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer March 10, 2004 Author Share [Mmmm]Homer Member March 10, 2004 What are your specs All Kill3r? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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