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What exactly was on this HD that is so bad? Does you work have a strict policy about internet browsing? I mean, is it part of your contract? Does anyone do it?

oh... sorry, thanks for the links.

Yes. My wife and I eat one about every other week. They are good, and easy. The way things should be.

Ok.... you are all fired. Except dwEEziL and appalachian_fox, everyone failed to follow the directions. That will be $10 from each of you. Payable to Fatty for my membership Well, the least you all could do is suggest a nice recipe. I have a wife, and a crockpot, which do I consult first?

I am looking to find the best chili. So, I am curious to know what place, or kind, people around these parts prefer. What say you? Please limit your answers to either: 1. A national chain (ie Wendy's) 2. A type that can be bought in a store. I am more then willing to assume the best chili is made by your father/mother. But I am looking for a brand that I can try. Thanks!

I always have HR Block do mine. But my sister works there, so I get a nice discount. Though, given the ease, I would likely pay full price just so I never have to do it myself.

That is an easy question for me. I would like to talk to Winston Churchill. The man was a genious. I don't know of many more people that could write, and make public speaches, better then he could. I would like to sit back and drink a beer with him. I don't care what we talk about.

Why not a fight song from the 'first and finest' school in Ohio? Would you like for me to email you the Ohio University fight song?

I don't understand why the Eagles were taking their time in the last 2.5 min. Oh well, NE takes another one.

I actually like Farve. I am not a GB fan, but he is a good qb.

Ok... I will start lookig for something nice to send. I do have experience with ALL, but far different then what you are going thru. I deal with ALL on the other end. I usually diagonose it. My thoughts are with you and yours. Keep things positive.

I have nothing left. I was just trying to direct this discussion to a conclusion. Giving that I see it is improbable to do, I gave my last post here: And I don't mind a pile on now... at this point I chalk it up to the fact that either a person didn't read the full thing, didn't understand it, or I delivered it improperly.

I hate blockers. Return to Castel Wolfenstein (RTCW) had the problem for a long time. Eventually they gave us a "push" feature. It saved many tk's and kicks.

Can I cuss? Just kiddin'

Hmmm... any idea what her favorite color is? Poor girl. "ALL" is hard on little ones, but she will pull through. Very nice of this community.

I fear we will never arrive at the point... so here goes: What I was attempting to prove/show, is that there really are only two reasons for not allowing cussing on your servers. 1. You do not want to hear it. 2. You make the rules. I can debate just about every other reason. So, in conclusion, the next time this comes up, all you have to do is reply with those two reasons. There was (or was suppose to be) a debate on it, so no need to debate it again. Eh.... we never got there.

I will be the fries... I like them better anyway. Also, I don't see your logic. I guess we can agree to disagree. Correct, I did. My attempt was to discuss this and reach a conclusion. It was never to mock GC, or you. It wasn't to attack/defend against ad hominem replies. I am in medicine at this point in time. I am currently in law school (while working full time). My suggestion isn't the word is offensive, it is the manner in which you placed it. ps. QUOTES WORK!

Well, I am not going to do this quote thing again... I keep messing it up. Slow what down? You can claim disappointment, but I can not? Again, a form of intimidation and attempt to control a conversation. You have pm'd me three times regarding this topic. You second pm came before this last one. Here it is: I asked if you wanted me to stop. I was in the opinion your pm was for that. I fail to see the reason for sending the pm otherwise. I made it clear in the fist post why I was posting. Your pm sent a message to me that you disapprove, but wanted to keep things quiet. I did offer you a place where you called me a name. Maybe it was lost in my quoting error. It is there though. I can't blame you for missing it. I will state it again, you made a remark about me being a 'public defender.' It was a patronizing remark, and a form of name calling. Your power move is in how you went about it. I don't care that you have an opinion against my own. I deal with that every day. Two pm's were sent, the first sounding like a request to remain silent. Then you patronize, request (one) other to not reply, threaten to close this thread, and finally act like the guy standing before his friends to make a mockery of another "here is a guy that wants to join... but acts this way..." That isn't to say I am upset, so don't say I trying to be a martyr. I never said that I was suffering. My example is only to show you how/when you take a strong arm act in forcing your point of view. I don't fault you for it, you have to do what you think you need to. I just don't like it when it is used on me. Also, I never sucked you into this discussion. Your post after mine you made a request to be involved. You are here by your own choosing. Don't blame me for it. I have given my point many times. However, at this point we are outside of the topic and address each other. This is what I find foolish. I guess it is the snow ball analogy. Your big mac analogy isn't suitable either. Your suggestion is that the person is trying to improve. I take this that the person would eventually no longer go to McD's. If that was the case, a person would go to your server, and eventually stop playing CS.

Oh that stupd quote button... I think there is a quote limit..

I can certainly handle the opinion on my opinion. Your fist PM was taken as such an inquiry. I replied basically asking you if you were requesting that I stop. Here is my PM: I have added emphasis here because I did ask you what you were sending my pm's for. Your reply never clearified your stance. I thought it was dumb about 3 posts ago. I don't have a beef here. I don't have any steam to blow at you, or anyone else. Now, or even in the past (excluding my mistake with the admin thing). By itself, it isn't bad. Using the sarcasm meater on it... it amounts to name calling, or teasing. I felt it was a peaceful conversation. I also think Strange can speak for himself. I was interested in hearing his perspective on allowing his children to play this game. Keeping him silent ends the discussion, and keeps me silent as well. You are correct. It wasn't my attempt to do so. This topic is constantly brought up. I figured we could end it now. Instead, it changed to something else. Yeah, I just don't get that. There are two sides to every story. Most of the time the truth is between them. There is no victum here. As am I. I stepped in because there was silence for the other side. This topic is always brought up. My attempt was to show the other side, and reach a reasonable rationale between the irony that does exist. I am not raging against anything. I thought it was distasteful to pm me, and then egg me on. After my post to end the topic, you continued.... and I received your second PM. But, lets make one thing clear, I am not ragging, I have my gloves firmly placed, and I habor no ill will for anyone.

Fatty Well, I was permitting your last word, but I don't like your jump on the pile technique. You have a tendency to strong arm a discussion. You try to keep my mouth silent by making fun, name calling, and attempting to keep other people from replying to what I have said to them. You send PM's basically asking me to stop, and then egg me on over here. Which is fine, I just can't believe that I nearly bought into it. I can see how your strategy works. You appear large over here, and equal on the other side. I don't like to dance behind the scene. You send me a pm to attack both fronts, or to cuddle on one side, and then smack the other. Both valuable techniques for your objective, but rather strategic failures for dealing with someone that can see through your smoke. I will not dance with you both behind the curtain and before the crowd. Regarding your pm: I don't call it a debate because this isn't formal. No one here offers more then there own perspective, myself included. This is a discussion of opinion. You ask why I called it a discussion, and that is why. I guess it is a matter of semantics. I have not made a false assumption with the quote of the football analogy. I have explained your fallacy. Though you don't state it, you should be aware that all terms in an analogy doesn't need to be. You are comparing violence and cussing. Omitting the terms cussing from football doesn't mean it shouldn't be inferred, matter of fact, it needs to be in order for you analogy to work. The quote tags are messed up. I have no idea why, but I do know that isn't because I was rushing through things. To your posts: I never challenged your point of view in my first post because you never made one (as I stated in the second post). What I have challenged is your policy. Which I can only imagine was partially completed by your moving hand. Wouldn't that be part of your POV? I didn't see why you were so fired up until my previous post, and you repeated attempts to solicit my silence. The people here are strangers. However, I didn't engage with anyone in a rude manner. Simply offering a different point. Which might not make a flowery home, but at least people would see more then just what they want to. There is a flaw in your analogy. I understand your point, but you fail in creating a strong similarity. A better example would have been to point to an adult team that doesn't cuss. Noble? I am not sure why you make this statement. Edit: Regarding the mockery.. you seem to find this offensive. I didn't intend to make fun of GC, or your policy. Had you sent me a pm stating what you said in the end, we wouldn't be at this point now. I don't wish to make fun of GC, or what you have done here. But, I will not allow you to strong arm my silence either. Bubble Gum: Point(s) well taken.

Gosh fatty. I had no idea. First from the PM, and now to this. You really have a problem when someone challanges your point of view. I will address your last point, only because it seems to be a thorn of your discontent. Your anaology to sports of violance and not needing to cuss is understood. The fault lies in the fact that they do cuss. You can't argue from an anology where something does happen to something in which you are trying to show doesn't need happen. Finally, you may have the last word. Your suggestion of closing this topic is understood. You prefer for there not to be any discussion, or debate if you would rather call it that, about your policy. That is fine. But again, that is all you needed to say. My apologies for affending you. In the future, I should allow the flogging of one, and the one sided discussion to continue.

I get enough debate in class. I am not here to do that. There was just a very one sided discussion. It was becoming obvious that not everyone understand why people see this as an irony. It was an attempt to explain why the other side exists, and the fallacy of the arguments presented.

I keep trying... I can't figure it out. It bothers me though....

It was very dry, so I wasn't sure. Perhaps a bigger smiley would work better next time.