General J December 2, 2003 Share General J Member December 2, 2003 (edited) Being the idiot that I am, I quickly found out that my current machine only has 2x AGP... Soo... Now I am just looking at a new machine... How does this look for $276.32: ASUS A7V600 Barebone Kit ASUS A7V600, SATA Raid, S.462, 333/400FSB, Audio/LAN, DDR333/400, Retail Box AMD Athlonâ„¢ XP 2600+ Barton 640K 333FSB OEM Socket A Cooling Fan w/Heatsink 256MB DDR333 PC2700 Non-ECC Samsung Integrated 32AW SRS Audio Adapter Integrated 10 / 100 / 1000 Mbps Gigabit LAN Adapter ATX Beige MidTower 300W P.S. w/2 Front USB OR is this a better deal for $272.90: Create Your Own Kit: AMD Athlonâ„¢ XP - Mb&CPU Combo ASUS A7N8X-X, S.462, 333/400FSB, Audio/LAN, DDR333/400, Retail Box AMD Athlonâ„¢ XP 2600+ Barton 640K 333FSB OEM Socket A Cooling Fan w/Heatsink 256MB DDR333 PC2700 Non-ECC Samsung ATX Beige MidTower 300W P.S. Edited December 2, 2003 by General J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa December 2, 2003 Share Playaa Member December 2, 2003 I'd say up the ram to AT LEAST 512mb....other than that, I don't know that mobo so no other advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General J December 2, 2003 Author Share General J Member December 2, 2003 Upping the RAM takes it to $311.66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa December 2, 2003 Share Playaa Member December 2, 2003 using 256mb ram in any new PC is gonna just frustrate you when you can't play the newest games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer December 2, 2003 Share [Mmmm]Homer Member December 2, 2003 Per Newegg: $82 A7V600 $99 XP2600+ $5 cheapest HSF $40 cheap PC2700 RAM $24 cheap beige case w/300w psu ================== $250 Motherboard is KT600 chipset, eh, go with an nForce2 chipset board. I agree on 512mb, use 2x256mb. The A7N8X Deluxe has the very good Soundstorm audio if you are gonna use onboard sound. 300w is low for an AMD system too, get a 350w. And lastly, go to www.newegg.com before I come over there slap ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General J December 2, 2003 Author Share General J Member December 2, 2003 (edited) I am looking more at that second setup since it has the nforce chip set.. As I have it set up at newegg it is $286.99 with shipping. Edited December 2, 2003 by General J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa December 2, 2003 Share Playaa Member December 2, 2003 you could save an eency-weency chunk of change and go with this Biostar instead...only saves ya about $5 though...but I KNOW that thing rocks...put it in 6 systems now and all scream from the getgo. (one 7th system with that mobo had a bad processor...so it doesn't scream yet). also, what case you looking at? I don't know what you look for in a case...me I want functionality + price over looks...so I get this one usually for customers. only $25 and is a good working (and rather cool) case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer December 2, 2003 Share [Mmmm]Homer Member December 2, 2003 Homer,Dec 2 2003, 01:03 PM] 300w is low for an AMD system too, get a 350w. If I can quote myself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa December 2, 2003 Share Playaa Member December 2, 2003 no, no you can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer December 2, 2003 Share [Mmmm]Homer Member December 2, 2003 You're banned Playaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa December 2, 2003 Share Playaa Member December 2, 2003 hehe, I don't think I've ever been banned from an Mmmm server got kicked only twice (I was annoying Maggy once, Mr X the other) why is 50 watts so much more important? I have built plenty of Athlon systems with 300w PS's that were fine....so maybe there's something else or maybe you need to elaborate? (i.e. for overclocking, lifetime) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBugs December 2, 2003 Share TheBugs Member December 2, 2003 The A7N8X Deluxe and dual 256 pc2700 is what i have and havent had any problems yet! And the on board sound that comes with the mobo is great! newegg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL December 3, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member December 3, 2003 I like the A7N8X board over the other. I also agree with Playaa. I would go with 512MB RAM modules. If you can't afford 2 right now, get one and get the other later. Also, as Homer said, a 350W PS is the minimum-suggest wattage for an AMD system. Playaa, an AMD system might run fine on a 300W or less PS (depends, some of the good brand PS's are sufficient on a minimalist system) but if you add a CD drive or two, a HD or two, a powered Vid card, etc, it might not be sufficient enough to power all the devices at the proper level and it might overheat itself, stop booting until you unplug something, or worst, it might run your devices on brown power (less power than is needed) which is even worse for your devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer December 3, 2003 Share [Mmmm]Homer Member December 3, 2003 Playaa Find your answers within. Take note of the DDR DIMM, and that's just one. It's easier to put a slightly bigger PSU in now rather than adding a hard drive and a stick of RAM in a year and crapping out your system. Edit: it might not be sufficient enough to power all the devices at the proper level and it might overheat itself, stop booting until you unplug something, or worst, it might run your devices on brown power (less power than is needed) which is even worse for your devices. This really sucks to happen and it can be frustrating to diagnose, it might happen intermittently and start a couple weeks after you upgrade so you won't be sure it was the upgrade. You might think it's an overheating issue. It has happened to me like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman December 3, 2003 Share Birdman Member December 3, 2003 I like the A7n8X from asus. But i can really recomend the N-force 2 board from ABIT that i run, the NF7-S ver 2.0. Both boards are great! May i also suggest that you get a Barton 2500+ processor instead of a 2600+. The performance of both processors is excellent, but I think if u ever decide to have some REAL fun you'll need the 2500+. Also go with PC-3200 ram if you get a 2500+. This may not seem like it makes since, but trust me if u get a 2500+ with two sticks of pc-3200 ram to run dual channel on a ABIT or Asus board you will be able to get your money's worth!!!! Oh and if you do get a 2500 and two sticks of 3200 you had better overclock since thats what Asus and ABIT boards are ready for!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General J December 3, 2003 Author Share General J Member December 3, 2003 Well bird, I have never overclocked and would have no idea where to start but thanks for the suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman December 4, 2003 Share Birdman Member December 4, 2003 Its a cake walk to overclock the AMD 2500+ if you use a retail heatsink and have nice cooling in your case(at least 3 80mm fans) then you would be able to overclock that sucker at leat 100 mhz!! If you invest in a good all copper heatsink and add a nice 80mm fan on top with some good thermal grease then you would be able to get more mhz out of the 2500 and dont be afraid to overclock just take baby steps and i can help you out if you would like to try it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL December 4, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member December 4, 2003 Rizad has the 2500+ and so do I. He has conventional cooling and I have water-cooling and we both OC ours to 2.1GHz without any significant temperature difference. If I bump the FSB any higher, mine fails to boot. I have my FSB set to 191MHz. I could probably go higher if I want to adjust the vcore voltage, but 300MHz increase is good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman December 4, 2003 Share Birdman Member December 4, 2003 True dat so u have a 2500+ that is as fast as a 3000+ which is awsome This is why everyone should overclock at least a little Not only did u save money, but u gained a nice bit of performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL December 4, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member December 4, 2003 And, by doing more stuff with like this, you get a better understanding of how a computer works. My first computer (well, my first was a TRS80 CCII, so my second computer) was a 66MHz (CPU on turbo), 8MB Ram, 480MB HD and I was deathly afraid to open it up for fear that I might break something. Through the years, I have gotten over this fear and do a lot of internal work on my system, thus I save a lot of time/money (don't have to call TS or pay someone to fix it). I also have the feeling of accomplishment knowing that I built myself a computer from the parts up that is more stable than most of the "Dells" I support at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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