bushwack

Durrr, I was thinking 1% of 150 was 15. So it is a 6% increase, not too bad for free I might actually get up to 10% after 2.5 but still I don't like the added noise. I am just used to back in the day when I had a Pentium 75 running at 100, a Celeron 300A @ 450, a 533A @ 800. The gains of overclocking were massive. I still play with my old 300A system to this day with a pair of Voodoo2 in SLI, man is the old GlobalWin's twin fans are loud, the're worn out. A tech told me long ago not to overclock, I'll kill the chips. The 300A still runs over 7 years laster. Yeah as winter and UT 2007 approches I may try to run mine around 2.5, but I just want quiet and stability. If I cant achieve both at the same time I will throttle it down again. For Christmas I thought about getting another gig o' ram and another 7900GT but I think I'm going to shoot for one of those new LoCS widescreens for the living room.

Just ramped my 2.2 up to 2.4, the CS perf test went from 150 to 159. I use my PC for primarily for gaming, entertainment and communications. Right now it just doesn't make sense to me to overclock, unless I see over a 10% boost in a game. According to what CS test and Doom3 timedemo1 have to say about it, I am not even getting a 1% increase. Maybe in the future when I get a better video card. Which brings me to another question... Why is my 64 2.2g + 7900GT combo on par with Dark's dually @ 2.5 + GTX as far as CS perf test?

Is there some kinda cap on the fps in the CS test? I just ran it and got 150, same as yours but I'm running a vanilla 64 3500+ and a 7900GT. Figured your GTX would have pulled ahead considerably. Last month after the AMD price plumet, I OC'ed my 3500+ from 2.2. to 2.4 (10x240). I had to add a smidgen of voltage to make it stable, I can't remember but the 2.4g settings are saved in my BIOS Reloder program if I need to retrieve them (I love you Biostar T-Force!). The extra speed boosted my Quake 3 bench fron 75fps to 78fps -wooptie. But the thing is this: to keep my CPU at the old 2.2 coolness the fan adjusted itself and now was audible. All in all the minute performance gain wasn't worth the extra noise to me so I am running at default speeds.

Yup I like the white silicone paste. I once tried the Arctic Silver II when I had my Athlon XP 1600+. About a year and a half I starting having stability problems and couldn't narrow it down to anything. Ended getting a new mobo and a mobile XP and clocking it up to 2.2ghz. When I took my Zalman heatsink off the old CPU, the Arctic Silver had dried up. Best advice I can give no matter what you paste you use, follow the directions, and dont use too much. I put a small drop on the chip then smooth it out with some cellophane wrap on my finger. Rememer if your CPU and heatsink were perfectly flat no paste would be necessary. It's only filling in the gaps between the two surfaces that aren't touching.

Maybe I am mistaken about what Cool'nQuiet is. My motherboard says "Supports AMD Cool'nQuiet Technology" but no where is it in the BIOS. Is this a software program? In my BIOS there is a smart fan controller that can be enabled. I thought that was the Cool'nQuiet thingy. It is a highly configurable fan speed controller, wish the case fans used it too.

I'm going to agree with this, but I don't think it would hurt to run in the 50's after looking at what todays GPUs run at. My 7900 GT at the moment is at 56 with its stock heatsink and fan. I also dont think it should be a problem to overclock with 'Cool and Quiet' enabled -providing you know what your doing. It works great on my system , as my temps never gets over 49 too with prime running. You can set the max fan speed to whatever temperature you like, so when your not gaming you don't have to listen to your CPU fan whine. But it did take me awhile to get the temp/fan settings adjusted just right.

Yeah thats my comp with the front panel pulled off. The pic is of the front case fan. I also use a Arctic Freezer 64 Pro on my Athlon 64. It is quiet in itself but I also have AMDs "Cool and Quiet" feature activated on my mobo. Now the fan on it usually hovers around 1100 rpm idle @ 42C and up to 1400 under load @ 48C. Totally silent at 1400 too. I overclocked my 3500+ the other day from 2.2g to 2.4g (10x240) Doom3 benched from 75fps to 78fps. Not a noticable increase but my CPU was much hotter and the fan noise became noticeable. Not worth the extra heat/noise so I am currently back at stock speed.

When with a another, the right side...always. So what does that mean?

My computer room is actually a dinning room that one wall has a double door opening that leads into the living room. A few years ago I could watch TV on the couch and hear the comps running in the next room. Very annoying, something had to be done. With a little cash (buying all new agjustable fans) and a little work all is peaceful now. Case fans seem to be make the most noise, even if they are the quiet type the air rushing through the pressed factory grill made the most noise for me. Remove them! On the back side of the case you may want to place a wire grill over those fans for safety. All I used was a dremel tool, not only does this decrease noise, but will increase air flow to boot. -ew the fan was spinning when I took this picture, didn't see the nasty dust lol Seems the loudest things in comp now is a old IBM Deskstar 80gig I use for back up. It's mounted in the top 5 1/4 bay and the sound comes through the front plastic bezel. Though under normal conditions I cant hear it unless I stick my head 10 inches from it.

I don't understand the airsoft thing. My 11 year old son has a BB rifle/hand gun, a compound bow, multiple airsoft guns, but he still want's more airsoft guns. I say screw airsoft if you have BB guns and especially a compound bow.

This can't even be the same game by now. We talking UT 2008 right, is't that how it works? Bites too, 2004 is mostly dead and I have almost finished Painkiller. <----wonderful game

Man I figured this was about flavor of some chewing gum brand.

Same here, I just scrolled, scrolled and scrolled to the bottom then put this. Sorry, maybe you should try out a few short episodes first. Someone review this and let me know if it's worth reading.

"18" here. Not for any other reason then that I have been shooting this number for a while. Games just "play" better for me at 18. Any more and it becomes mayhem for many maps, can't get anywhere without getting sniped or avrilized. Any less and people like Primus think I'm after them all the time, when I'm not, I just have less people to spread my love with. When I became a reg on GC it was at 18, I didn't care for the higher number servers that abound. Oops -didn't read Flitters post above.

AVG here, man I love free stuff that works.

* smacks forehead, has that wet washcloth sound *

I've never used one or really was 100% positive about a hax untill last weekend. It was late and I joined a Primeval demo server for some fun since my aim gets a little off on weekend nights. Any way I met someone that just could not miss me with a shock rifle. I figued my balance was just off or something. UNTILL I was charging the middle node and saw a shock beem coming out of the middle of the tree trunk and hitting the node. So I ran around to the other side of the tree and sure enough there was Sir Hax-a-lot. Caused the game to stink, everyone complaining and leaving, but the best thing was the we still won the round. What a dill weed.

Tek, the world of Oblivion still have hold of you? You seem to be missing from UT lately, but I have too myself, Space Rangers 2 rocks! Yeah that was T totally Cannon, I suck in the turret even with the bot hax.

I have a EVGA 7900 GT 500/1500 and after an hour of UT 2004 the cards temp was only 52 C. Do you run a clean case, all your wires tied and out of the path of air flow from your bottom case fan so it hits your cards?

I agree my CM Stacker is the best case I've ever had. Some how I just can't get rid of my Enlight case. It's classic beige will someday come back in style. I've had it for years and is on it's 3rd system inside. BIOSTAR TForce4SLI -this board rocks! AMD 64 3500+ w/ Actic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro -waiting for overclockage 2x 512 Kingston HyperX PC3200 EVGA 7900 GT 500/1500 250gig Maxtor Maxline III 16mb 80gig IBM 75GXP -for backup -lol Hercules Fortissimo III -sound 8x DVD burner + 52x CD burner Leadtek Winfast TV 2000 Deluxe tuner Coolmax 450w PS - thermally controlled 120mm fan 2x 80mm Enermax fans -manually adjustable All running wisper quiet and stable in my unassuming case.

My kids computer started making a wicked racket, wonderful. Took a while before I isolated the noise to the 2 year old BFG 5900 XT that was in it, fan was about to die. Figured I'd take it out before the GPU overheated. Thought I would just replace the cooler myself but shipping it to BFG would cost less. Called them on the 4th (wow they are open) and recieved a RMA number. Guess what I got back today? A new 6600 GT OC! The card is about 30% faster then the old one but when it comes to shader games, 10 fold (has shader 3 support). Plus it has a purty blue fan that lights up that maches thier case lighting. Another thing: I never registered the card and they never asked for a proof of purchase. Any other BFG fans?

All we had was a black and white console that played pong and a few variations and came with a light gun. Thing is it ran off of 4 or 6 DD batteries and my folks only bought them the one time...was fun while the batteries lasted, lol. I didn't become an addict untill I was 12. Got a TI/99 4A for christmas when they were $50. I used to pick up cans on the side of the road and recycle them for cash to by game carts. Later I found out a guy in class already had the system and bookoo's of games. We became best friends for many years, untill women became involved.

So I just downloaded the 1992 version of The Oregon Trail from a abandonware site., A little more advanced then the one I played in school, seems this one has mouse support. Well I made it with only 2 people "falling off the wagon". Final Score: 2820, good I guess considering I havent played this game in over a decade.

Whats wrong with old games? Don't like chess, poker or Monopoly? You walk past a working Digdug machine or a pinball table, do you not insert a coin? I think we are all gamers here, this is Gamers Coalition right? Or is it Gamers that only play the hot new FPSs that are no older the UT 2004 and Counter Strike Source Coalition? As a wise man once said, "To truely pwn, one must pwn in all games."

Haven't been playing UT too much lately either. Been hooked on Space Rangers 2. I don't even know what this game is classified as, mostly RPG I guess. The game will really throw you for a loop, for instance when I was thrown in jail. It turned into an old text type resource management game like I played in the 80's. Very cool throwback nicely done. Also the quests are never like you've seen before like transporting Elvis's frozen body to another planet to be unthawed. Many seem like they were written by Douglas Adams, waiting for a quest about him... The game icorporates SrarForce copy protection, too bad because they will loose sales over this and many people will never play this unique game untill they ship with it removed. -Luckily my system has no problems with it. Shhhh -been playing a bit of Sims 2 also