A few of us are old, Shaf. Like Architect muwahahhaah. Jackie mentioned the other night that he would have to set up another server in order for us to play L4D2 at FF. I would assume that would only entail copying the applicable files to another vanilla server. Maybe that involves more time than I assume... and even cost. I'd be willing to help with the cost, though. And if it's not bazillions of dollars, I'd pay for it altogether.