Slaphappy April 16, 2003 Share Slaphappy Member April 16, 2003 (edited) I've got a Geforce 3 ti200 some crappy spacewalker MB and i'm running XP I installed the latest drivers off Nvida's website and was tweeking then when I notice it tells me it's running at 2x. Since there is no option to change this with the nivida software I check my Bios. It's set to be running at 4x/ I had this problem before with at Geforce 2 and I got a patch that would fix this. Prob is I'm pretty sure that was for my old mother board (the one i broke......don't ask) What this patch tells me to do is open device manager and Click on the PCI-to-PCI bridge. and update the driver to what they gave me. Problem is there is no PCI-PCI bridge. I do searchers and eveything I can think of but I can't find this thing. Here is what it said "Go to device manager, right-click on the PCI-PCI bridge which represents your AGP bridge and select "Properties". 2. Select the "Driver" page and push the "Update Driver" button. Go through the update driver wizard and on the "Locate Driver Files" page select "Specify a location" 3. Enter the location of your new INF and driver." Ok any idea's on what the problem is here. Anyone had problems with a Nvidia card running at 2x when it should be 4? Edited April 16, 2003 by Slaphappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer April 16, 2003 Share [Mmmm]Homer Member April 16, 2003 I might be wrong here, but I doubt you are going to run into the ceiling on 2x AGP with your setup. I might have a different opinion if you had a 2+ghz system with a GF4 or ATi 9700 Pro series card. The 4x/8x AGP stuff has largely been a marketing move by card manufacturers to provide something 'new'. The cards bottleneck way before they max out the AGP capacity, especially a Ti200 card. If you are not noticing any performance hit from your previous setup I'd just leave it alone. Just looked it up and Spacewalker is a Shuttle series. Not sure if they are good or not, the mobo might be limited to 2x AGP. If you want get the model of the mobo and look it up on the Shuttle site and see 4x is supported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VI]ROosTEr April 16, 2003 Share [VI]ROosTEr Member April 16, 2003 (edited) Hey slap, I replied again to your post in the VI forum. Looked something like this I find my AGP drivers like this. (XP Pro should be similar in all though) Go to view -> Devices by connection Then, it looks something like this: Edited April 16, 2003 by [VI]ROosTEr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 16, 2003 Author Share Slaphappy Member April 16, 2003 Thanks rooster. Unfortaly that patch thingy I had didn't work....I did however force to me reformat. Anyway now with Windows installed again i'm back to the same problem. It's running at 2x when it should be running at 4x. Homer, It's not an issue of if my mb supports 4x agp or not. I know it does and I have it enable in the bios Ok anyone have any ideas. Anyone else ever had probls with card with Nvidia drivers running at the wrong bus speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL April 16, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member April 16, 2003 I have seen this issue before Slappy, just can't seem to find the right Google-phrase for it. I will keep looking though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 16, 2003 Author Share Slaphappy Member April 16, 2003 ya someone posted about it on goop before....might have even been sim. Anyway I downloaded the newest drivers for my motherboard but the self installer dosn't work. When I go update the sis Graphics port and point it too the drivers i downloaded it dosn't think they are the right drivers...When I install them with the Have disk option It trys to install then restarts my comptuer every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 16, 2003 Author Share Slaphappy Member April 16, 2003 Starting to wonder if the drivers that I dowloaded are compatible with XP...after I installed them there is some VGA thing that It can't find drivers for on start up....evey time i start up.....Oh ya the model is a AV18E V4.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiZad April 16, 2003 Share RiZad Member April 16, 2003 http://downloads.viaarena.com/drivers/4in1...n4in1446vp6.exe that is the drivers that u need for the motherboard. If u were looking for sis drivers than thats the reason they DON'T work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiZad April 16, 2003 Share RiZad Member April 16, 2003 (edited) http://www.shuttle.com/new/product/mainboa...s_m.asp?M_id=10 shows it to be a VIA chipset not SiS Edited April 16, 2003 by RiZad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer April 16, 2003 Share Killer Member April 16, 2003 VIA is better than Nforce and SiS right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VI]ROosTEr April 16, 2003 Share [VI]ROosTEr Member April 16, 2003 Here comes an argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 16, 2003 Author Share Slaphappy Member April 16, 2003 i'm confused ok so was that link the drivers i need for the VIA Chipset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiZad April 16, 2003 Share RiZad Member April 16, 2003 yes that is for a Via chipset which u have.. U don't have a SiS chipset so therefore u DO_NOT need the sis agp driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 16, 2003 Author Share Slaphappy Member April 16, 2003 OK i've installed them (several times) but still runs at 2x and still every time I start up i get the New hadware found VIA bus master IDE drivers.....but It can't ever find drivers and I can't find the drivers it wants....I tryed directing it to the ones that Rooster just gave me a link to but it says no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 17, 2003 Author Share Slaphappy Member April 17, 2003 correct me if i'm wrong but these drivers it's looking for are the ones that would affect my agp right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 17, 2003 Author Share Slaphappy Member April 17, 2003 Dear God Is there nothing I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL April 17, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member April 17, 2003 Slappy, where is it showing up as x2 AGP? I am currently using a GeForce 3 Ti 200 on a Via chipset mobo as well. For some reason, I can't find where it displays what speed AGP it is running at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VI]ROosTEr April 17, 2003 Share [VI]ROosTEr Member April 17, 2003 I believe he got it from a powerstrip type program (tweaking software of some type) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 17, 2003 Author Share Slaphappy Member April 17, 2003 In display I go to advanced...Then click the GeForce3 Ti 200 tab. Brings up the lots of info with a slideout window of stuff like open GL, overlay all kinds of crap.....On the first "page" when I first click on it Up at top it tells me Processor: Geforce3 Ti 200 under that it sais IRQ:5 BIOS 3.20.00.18.14 TV Encoder Type: Conexant Bt868 All thats in the Green top part then there is Adapter Information Bus: AGP 2x Memorty: 64 MB Then System Information Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 17, 2003 Author Share Slaphappy Member April 17, 2003 Dweez I sent you a pic check your mail bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL April 17, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member April 17, 2003 I found it based on your description. Oddly enough, I was looking for the info to be buried somewhere instead of right there on the first "tab". Sadly, mine says 4xAGP. Sorry man, but I will keep looking for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 17, 2003 Author Share Slaphappy Member April 17, 2003 I'm getting this bad feeling that the only way I'm gonna get a card to run at 4x is to get a new MB...I mean I could live with that If I had money for one....Dosn't help that I just got this MB two weeks ago either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 17, 2003 Author Share Slaphappy Member April 17, 2003 I'm really starting to wonder If the drivers for my MB are compatable with XP....on the CD there is a folder for win 2k and eveything down but there is no XP. and it looks like the drivers online are the same as the ones on my cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL April 17, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member April 17, 2003 By "drivers", are you meaning your video card drivers? Cuz the nVidia drivers for XP is the same installer as W2k. If you don't mean video card drivers, I am not sure what you are referring to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 17, 2003 Author Share Slaphappy Member April 17, 2003 talking about MB drivers.....also I found this Category: AGP, display & 3D problems Question: My VIA chipset and my GeForce video card support 4X AGP. I have 4X AGP set in BIOS but will only run at 2X AGP. Help! Answer: 2 things may cause this. 1)If you are using an ApolloPro133A chipset the BIOS may be providing the wrong chipset information to the operating system and identifying it as an ApolloPro133. Nvidia drivers automatically set 4X AGP to off. This registry patch will correct this. 2) If you have used a tweaking program for your GeForce card it may have set your VIA chipset 4X AGP to off in the registry. Download and run this patch to correct it. I'm using the ApolloPro133A chipset......I downloaded the patch, restarted still 2x For good mesure i DL the other patch, restarted.....still 2x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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