suphuvn April 19, 2014 Share suphuvn Member April 19, 2014 I was wondering if this is legal? or do I/others get bent for bhopping? (yes, i bhoped in the video) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphuvn April 19, 2014 Author Share suphuvn Member April 19, 2014 Sorry if your guys' eyes exploded while watching this really bad quality video.. this file was <4mb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test April 20, 2014 Share Test Member April 20, 2014 (edited) nice video (not quality, but content) not sure if u are using some kind of plugin or any kind of modification, if you are, then it is illegal. Edited April 20, 2014 by TestCharacter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphuvn April 20, 2014 Author Share suphuvn Member April 20, 2014 It's all in game; it's called bhop or bunny hopping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test April 20, 2014 Share Test Member April 20, 2014 if u are not using any mods/plugins, then that's fine. but i think u will be kicked/banned for rushing. u know how it goes here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackYoshi April 20, 2014 Share BlackYoshi Member April 20, 2014 Not legal to do in-game I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test April 20, 2014 Share Test Member April 20, 2014 Not legal to do in-game I'd say. in the game or in this server only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphuvn April 20, 2014 Author Share suphuvn Member April 20, 2014 Not legal to do in-game I'd say. So you're saying that for example, I can't bhop to a place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garychios April 20, 2014 Share Garychios Member April 20, 2014 The Skins and gun are local plugins and legal as we cannot control that. The Bhop to that area is not for me to say, but I would assume is illegal as it is an exploit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurderinClony April 20, 2014 Share MurderinClony Member April 20, 2014 I know I'm not an admin and so my opinion probably doesn't matter but here we go anyways. If you have to ask if it is legal, it is probably not legal. /end opinion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphuvn April 20, 2014 Author Share suphuvn Member April 20, 2014 I know I'm not an admin and so my opinion probably doesn't matter but here we go anyways. If you have to ask if it is legal, it is probably not legal. /end opinion lol true, you kinda have a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
san` April 20, 2014 Share san` GC Alumni April 20, 2014 Hold on now. I know in CSGO you don't gain forward speed with the strafe jump / bunny hop. Is that true in L4D2? If you don't gain forward speed, I don't see a problem with it. However, if you use it to get to spots that you can see over walls or aren't meant to be, then I'd consider that an exploit. The other issue I see is that it could significantly cut you off from your team and be perceived as rushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphuvn April 20, 2014 Author Share suphuvn Member April 20, 2014 (edited) Hold on now. I know in CSGO you don't gain forward speed with the strafe jump / bunny hop. Is that true in L4D2? If you don't gain forward speed, I don't see a problem with it. However, if you use it to get to spots that you can see over walls or aren't meant to be, then I'd consider that an exploit. The other issue I see is that it could significantly cut you off from your team and be perceived as rushing. No, in L4D2 you do gain speed. I play CSGO and CSS; in CSGO your speed can't go over 300 (running is 250) but you do gain a little bit of speed. L4D2 is kinda similar to CSS where bhop can gain you distance and speed Edited April 20, 2014 by suphuvn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackYoshi April 20, 2014 Share BlackYoshi Member April 20, 2014 (edited) The only situation where I would say this is appropriate to do is if you are the only survivor left and your team has given you permission to rush. That or you have died in the back, respawned, and are now trying to catch up with the team. It is a part of the game that was not intentionally meant to be exploited after all. Thats just the way I see it so don't do it in-game because another admin might not agree. Edited April 20, 2014 by BlackYoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose April 20, 2014 Share Jose Member April 20, 2014 (edited) I guess this is the same with the hunter's ability to pounce from invisible walls. Both techniques are features not planned while VALVe code the Source engine even bunny hopping is possible in GoldSrc, HL1, CS 1.6. Also both "exploits" requires skills to perform them correctly... I am ok with bunny hopping for speed increase but remember, it is impossible to keep the momentum for more than a few seconds unless a script is being used, in that case the player who uses it should be perma banned (it is "hacking"). But if the map "cuts" are a problem I think the best solution is to block those paths with an in-game asset like in the begining and finale of hard rain I do bunny hopping when I am bored as survivor but I do not use it for cut through the map like that... Edited April 20, 2014 by Jose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan April 20, 2014 Share JackieChan GC Alumni April 20, 2014 I know I'm not an admin and so my opinion probably doesn't matter but here we go anyways. Â Â Â If you have to ask if it is legal, it is probably not legal. Â /end opinion /end truth No, it's not legal in this server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphuvn April 20, 2014 Author Share suphuvn Member April 20, 2014 I guess this is the same with the hunter's ability to pounce from invisible walls. Both techniques are features not planned while VALVe code the Source engine even bunny hopping is possible in GoldSrc, HL1, CS 1.6. Also both "exploits" requires skills to perform them correctly... I am ok with bunny hopping for speed increase but remember, it is impossible to keep the momentum for more than a few seconds unless a script is being used, in that case the player who uses it should be perma banned (it is "hacking"). But if the map "cuts" are a problem I think the best solution is to block those paths with an in-game asset like in the begining and finale of hard rain I do bunny hopping when I am bored as survivor but I do not use it for cut through the map like that... What do you mean by keeping the momentum for more than a few seconds? as in bhoping more than a few seconds? because if that's what you meant; it is possible (without scripts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test April 20, 2014 Share Test Member April 20, 2014 (edited) I guess this is the same with the hunter's ability to pounce from invisible walls. Both techniques are features not planned while VALVe code the Source engine even bunny hopping is possible in GoldSrc, HL1, CS 1.6. Also both "exploits" requires skills to perform them correctly... I am ok with bunny hopping for speed increase but remember, it is impossible to keep the momentum for more than a few seconds unless a script is being used, in that case the player who uses it should be perma banned (it is "hacking"). But if the map "cuts" are a problem I think the best solution is to block those paths with an in-game asset like in the begining and finale of hard rain I do bunny hopping when I am bored as survivor but I do not use it for cut through the map like that... Hunters pouncing from invisible walls is legal or not? How is that different to Bhop? Like you said, Valve didn't plan to make hunter jump from hundreds of feet high using the invisible walls. Then what is the issue with Bhop. Both works as an exploit, but hunters in this server are allowed to do this "trick". Edited April 20, 2014 by TestCharacter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurderinClony April 20, 2014 Share MurderinClony Member April 20, 2014 (edited) I guess this is the same with the hunter's ability to pounce from invisible walls. Both techniques are features not planned while VALVe code the Source engine even bunny hopping is possible in GoldSrc, HL1, CS 1.6. Also both "exploits" requires skills to perform them correctly... I am ok with bunny hopping for speed increase but remember, it is impossible to keep the momentum for more than a few seconds unless a script is being used, in that case the player who uses it should be perma banned (it is "hacking"). But if the map "cuts" are a problem I think the best solution is to block those paths with an in-game asset like in the begining and finale of hard rain I do bunny hopping when I am bored as survivor but I do not use it for cut through the map like that... What do you mean by keeping the momentum for more than a few seconds? as in bhoping more than a few seconds? because if that's what you meant; it is possible (without scripts) Just quite hard, because the timing gets harder and harder as you change heights from the landscape. But if you use some sort of outside help like a script, that is hacking so no, you can't use those. As for the hunters from invisible walls, I'd say lets drop it here and let TestCharacter surf the forums instead of asking if its legal here or not, because it has already been discussed. And if we go into detail here, it will get closed like the last one after a while, also in which both strayed from the original topic if I may say. Edited April 20, 2014 by MurderinClony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValenAlvern April 20, 2014 Share ValenAlvern Member April 20, 2014 GG Valve, make useless hidden walls to impede Infected but not survivors. This as much of an exploit as the ventilators were back in L4D1 days before Valve removed them from Verses Mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphuvn April 20, 2014 Author Share suphuvn Member April 20, 2014 Yes, some maps/campaign are almost impossible to bhop because of the bumps, objects, etc. Sorry I wasn't being specific enough, I meant on chapters that have pretty smooth ground such as the chapter shown in the video. I guess now I understand to what limit the bhop is "illegal"/ an "exploit". End topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan April 20, 2014 Share JackieChan GC Alumni April 20, 2014 Besides, using tricks as these will probably get you banned for rushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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