shaftiel October 24, 2014 Share shaftiel Member October 24, 2014 I have no idea what this is all about, but whatever it is has upset my girl Felicia Day. That is not allowed. Anyone able to explain what 'Gamersgate' is? Shaftiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crasx October 24, 2014 Share crasx GC Alumni October 24, 2014 something to do with a bunch of losers harassing female game developers http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturenews/11180510/gamergate-misogynist-felicia-day-zoe-quinn-brianna-wu.html marvin- that's something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaRvIn October 24, 2014 Share MaRvIn Member October 24, 2014 I dont know what you are talking about crasx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Architect October 24, 2014 Share Architect Member October 24, 2014 Gamers gate is a play off of the whole Watergate scandal type thing. Essentially a guy was gilted by a developer. This guy posted all sorts of things about this woman. Some of it she was sleeping with a game magazine reviewer. Under the guise of journalistic ethics, a poop storm was raised. Death threats against the developer. It is a bunch of bullpoop. Don't get involved c except to condemn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather October 24, 2014 Share Fairweather Member October 24, 2014 I have no idea what is going on but I'm picturing something close to stargate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingCat October 24, 2014 Share walkingCat Member October 24, 2014 A poop throwing competition? Heck, I'm down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs October 24, 2014 Share Biggs GC Alumni October 24, 2014 Gamers gate was one of the guild wars 2 servers, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADogX October 27, 2014 Share ADogX Member October 27, 2014 wow you guys have no clue. Gamergate is a group of gamers who are trying to get ethics in journalism...or in other words trying to get gaming journalism to be fair. The bs story about gamergate being against females is a lie spread by journalists because they dont want to be hated. they want to keep their job, and will continue to lie about what gamergate is. Plus, there are a bunch of female gamers in gamergate, so there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crasx October 27, 2014 Share crasx GC Alumni October 27, 2014 the wiki sums it up perfectly: In video game culture, Gamergate (sometimes referred to with the hashtag #GamerGate) is an online movement which emerged around false allegations of unethical conduct levied against indie game developer Zoe Quinn in August 2014. Some supporters of the movement have stated that they are concerned with ethical issues in video game journalism, particularly conflicts of interest between video game journalists and developers, while others have stated that they oppose feminist and other minority critiques of video games. However, the movement is most notable for its on-going campaign of misogynistic and violent threats and harassment targeting Quinn and other prominent women in gaming, which has drawn widespread condemnation. While these attacks are carried out by a minority within Gamergate, the movement's unwillingness or inability to control them has resulted in a widespread discrediting of its views and aims in mainstream sources. The harassment campaigns against women, combative rhetoric, and criticism of those examining video games from feminist or other minority perspectives has resulted in the movement being widely viewed as fighting a culture war against the increasing diversity of video game culture you wanna talk about ethics? How about discussing the harassment of a woman? It doesn't matter if she slept with men for articles, nobody deserves death and rape threats. Period. The reason this is so big is that it is indicative of a much larger problem of sexism and misogyny in the world of video games and computer science 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stutters October 27, 2014 Share stutters GC Alumni October 27, 2014 Disclaimer: strong language in the link below. https://medium.com/the-cauldron/why-gamergaters-tinkle-me-the-f-off-a7e4c7f6d8a6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crasx October 27, 2014 Share crasx GC Alumni October 27, 2014 that is beautiful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADogX October 27, 2014 Share ADogX Member October 27, 2014 then how about this. wiki can always be edited. doesn't that mean Anti-GamerGate people can edit it? plus, both sides have problems. don't shun all of gamergate because there are some idiots in it. besides, im not the best at explaining it. go on youtube and look up EventStatus. watch his GG videos. he explains it 10x better than me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protomanx13 October 27, 2014 Share Protomanx13 Member October 27, 2014 (edited) you shouldn't trust wiki, because wiki is always a subjective opinion to the subject. I even heard that corporations have teams that dedicates in handling wiki articles especially when Google search now links the result from wiki like when you google a movie title and etc. Edited October 27, 2014 by Protomanx13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crasx October 27, 2014 Share crasx GC Alumni October 27, 2014 I copied that from wiki because it explains it well from a perspective I agree with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stutters October 27, 2014 Share stutters GC Alumni October 27, 2014 I'm still kind of surprised the GG brigade hasn't stormed the forums, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaftiel October 27, 2014 Author Share shaftiel Member October 27, 2014 wow you guys have no clue. Gamergate is a group of gamers who are trying to get ethics in journalism...or in other words trying to get gaming journalism to be fair. The bs story about gamergate being against females is a lie spread by journalists because they dont want to be hated. they want to keep their job, and will continue to lie about what gamergate is. Plus, there are a bunch of female gamers in gamergate, so there. So you are going the conspiracy route on this? The 'man' is spreading lies and misinformation about this wonderful and completely rational group? Regardless of the supposed motives (Which, by the way, I think are completely ridicules. Ethics in gaming journalism? Its a completely subjective issue, there is no right or wrong answer) of this 'movement', it definitely seems to have been hijacked by some pretty extreme individuals, and no longer serves as the platform it was supposedly intended for. Shaftiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stutters October 27, 2014 Share stutters GC Alumni October 27, 2014 72 Hours of #Gamergate: Digging through 316,669 tweets from three days of Twitter’s two-month-old trainwreck wow you guys have no clue. besides, im not the best at explaining it. go on youtube and look up EventStatus. watch his GG videos. he explains it 10x better than me "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Architect October 28, 2014 Share Architect Member October 28, 2014 I think this sums it up nicely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs October 28, 2014 Share Biggs GC Alumni October 28, 2014 "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." That's from the muppets, yeah? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADogX October 28, 2014 Share ADogX Member October 28, 2014 i want you guys to watch the video here until he stops talking about GamerGate. He is pro-gamergate, but still bashes on BOTH sides. just watch and you'll understand better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroDamage October 28, 2014 Share ZeroDamage Member October 28, 2014 This topic is either complicating or simple and it also depends on your politics. Some see the same types of bias that runs rampant in your normal news and sports media flowing over into video game journalism. Where gamers just want honest news about video games, the radical feminist movement has infiltrated it and turned it into a mouth piece to bash video games that do not fit their political views. There is also the whole Zoe chic screwing around for positive reviews about her game. AND like all such controversies that reside on the internet, you get a bunch of anonymous trolls that do not represent either side of the debate making death and rape threats. Instead of treating the trolls like they should be treated (discredit and ignore them), the anti-gamersgate feminist crowd are attributing the anonymous trolls to the pro gamersgate crowd in an attempt to discredit their arguments and shut them up. So in other words, politics like usual but injected into some place is doesn't belong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crasx October 28, 2014 Share crasx GC Alumni October 28, 2014 yea we should just close this down but to summarize - guy goes on rant saying his ex slept with guys for game reviews - sexist neckbeards flip out - company publishes statement saying neckbeards need to calm down and that there was no breach of ethics http://kotaku.com/in-recent-days-ive-been-asked-several-times-about-a-pos-1624707346 - racist sexist neckbeards take over twitter and youtube on a mission from god to discredit all females who do anything ever - female game developer gets death threats, has to fall off the grid, her life is ruined - feminists get tinkleed off and speak up - neckbeards get tinkleed at feminists, claim oppression 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaftiel October 28, 2014 Author Share shaftiel Member October 28, 2014 (edited) OK. This is completely ridicules. What are you talking about? Radical feminist movement? Honest video game news? These are preposterous statements. Why is anyone worried about what ‘Zoe’ did or did not do, regardless of the reasons she did them? Are there more women writers and bloggers talking about video games? Sure! Do they have an opinion that might differ from that of a 16 year old boy? Sure! By expressing that opinion are they a part of a vast feminazi conspiracy to ruin gaming forever? No! Kids need to deal with the fact that other people enjoy different aspects of games, and that not everyone agrees about what makes a game enjoyable. Given that whether or not someone enjoys a game or not is a purely subjective issue, what do you mean with the phrase, “ … gamers just want honest news about video games”? What news do you think you are getting? Is it that a game you enjoy playing is getting bad reviews and you don’t agree with it? Would that then be dishonest news? Unfair? What does ‘honest news’ even mean in this context? There are no absolutes in ‘fun’. Everyone enjoys things differently and for different reasons. This whole thing reeks of a childish tantrum because not everyone enjoys playing games the same way as you. The Gamersgate movement has at the very least been hijacked by a very angry, very vocally violent group. It does not have any viable moral standing. It is nothing but a mouthpiece for angry women hating gamer nerds. There is no way to defend it, it has no legitimate value in any discussion involving ethics. Shaftiel Edited October 28, 2014 by shaftiel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADogX October 28, 2014 Share ADogX Member October 28, 2014 Crasx did you even watch the video i posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crasx October 28, 2014 Share crasx GC Alumni October 28, 2014 aint nobody got time for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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