flux December 28, 2003 Share flux Member December 28, 2003 (edited) i was planning on getting a case from xpcases.com and i had a question. it says in the specs of the case: * Main Board - ATX / AT, and i was wondering what this means? also what type of ram do i need if i get this motherboard? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...-2126&CatId=182 Edited December 28, 2003 by i <3 Angelina Jolie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Kill3r December 28, 2003 Share All Kill3r Member December 28, 2003 (edited) it says on that link that the motherboard supports PC3200. That board limits your fsb to starting at 533mhz. You buying new everything or upgrading an old cpu to a new board ? **EDIT** the thing about atx board means its compatible with ATX cases... eg. Click to see types of cases. Edited December 28, 2003 by All Kill3r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flux December 28, 2003 Author Share flux Member December 28, 2003 im buying new everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer December 28, 2003 Share [Mmmm]Homer Member December 28, 2003 *waves hand* This is not the motherboard you are looking for. That motherboard is crap. It's 533mhz bus max. Look around for one that supports 800mhz FSB!! ATX is the size of a motherboard, which is quite standard. AT is an older style. Micro-ATX will also fit with room to spare. *waves hand* Newegg..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Kill3r December 28, 2003 Share All Kill3r Member December 28, 2003 *waves hand* This is not the motherboard you are looking for. *waves hand* Newegg..... yep that about covers it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flux December 28, 2003 Author Share flux Member December 28, 2003 too late.... thats the one my parents had ordered me for x-mas. but its coming now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer December 29, 2003 Share [Mmmm]Homer Member December 29, 2003 RMA. I can tell already you had massive RAM conficts and you cannot use this motherboard with the RAM you already have. You need to return it for a better motherboard. Maybe this one. (I only had a minute to look, but look for 800mhz FSB.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flux December 30, 2003 Author Share flux Member December 30, 2003 well im getting some corsair ram .... i talked to some ppl that r good with computers too and they said it would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer December 30, 2003 Share [Mmmm]Homer Member December 30, 2003 If you bought a 800mhz FSB chip then it won't run at it's potential in that mobo. If you didn't buy an 800mhz FSB chip then you are nutz! RMA, RMA, RMA!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX December 30, 2003 Share NOFX Member December 30, 2003 yea man, the 800's are much faster with hyperthreading and they are the same price. Buying older stuff.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Kill3r December 30, 2003 Share All Kill3r Member December 30, 2003 (edited) i talked to some ppl that r good with computers too and they said it would be fine somehow that just doesnt make too much sense. Its by no means too late to fix this though. Things you should be looking for on a mobo : Supported CPU: Socket 478 Pentium Chipset: Intel 865PE + ICH5R FSB: 800/533/400MHz RAM: 2x DIMM support Dual Channel DDR400 IDE: 2x UltraDMA 100 up to 4 Devices, 2x UltraDMA 133 up to 4 Devices Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI Things on a cpu: Model: Intel Pentium 4C w/ Hyper Threading ( Take note of the C ) Core: Northwood Operating Frequency: xxxGHz ( doesnt matter as much as the one below ) FSB: 800MHz ( This is where bells and whistles should be going off ) Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/512K Voltage: 1.525V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket 478 Things on memory: Manufacturer: Pick one, try to stay with brand name, if you dont know the major ones just ask Speed: DDR400(PC3200) ( This is a minimum when running a Pentium 4-C ) Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM Error Checking: Non-ECC Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered Cas Latency: X-X-X-X ( Lower the better. ) Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s ( Make sure you get two paired chips.... if you want 512mb of ram get 2x256mb to 'double' your bandwith and take advantage of dual channel ) Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit RMA'ing some of your things that are on the way seems to be the only option out of this honestly. If you would be so kind to list everything in full spec that you have ordered that would help alot and Homer, myself, Nofx, Birdman and many many others who have built more then 1 computer can really help you out here. Edited December 30, 2003 by All Kill3r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer December 31, 2003 Share [Mmmm]Homer Member December 31, 2003 FYI, this is a Micro-ATX motherboard in an ATX mid-tower. An ATX motherboard would extend all the way to the bottom slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Kill3r December 31, 2003 Share All Kill3r Member December 31, 2003 any news ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flux January 3, 2004 Author Share flux Member January 3, 2004 (edited) ok heres what my mom had ordered me for x-mas 1. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...-2126&CatId=182 this same mobo.... thats all she got me, i got the hard drive and case coming in the mail. but i hadn't ordered anything else yet. i was planning on getting this ... 2. http://www.starmicro.net/detail.aspx?ID=118 well thats all for now .. i still need to order the mem. tell me how the mobo and cpu look together so far because thats what im concerened about right now !! edit* - i cannot seem to find any 800 mhz boards. i would really like a soyo, but this means ill have to send the other one back and wait longer .... thas all! Edited January 3, 2004 by i <3 Angelina Jolie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX January 3, 2004 Share NOFX Member January 3, 2004 (edited) newegg do a search for mobos that support 800 fsb. There is ALOT...Best choice would be a board with 865PE chipset. Edited January 3, 2004 by NOFX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Kill3r January 3, 2004 Share All Kill3r Member January 3, 2004 (edited) that mobo and cpu will work together since they are both 533fsb. If you havent ordered the cpu yet then i would seriously consider ANY P4 2.x C cpus 800fsb and get a mobo with 865pe/ich5 chipset, 800fsb. Being that the cpu is not ordered yet that gives you time to send that other mother board back and get a different one. Only reason i think you should send it back is because your buying a 533mhz cpu and mobo when 800mhz stuff is the same price and alot faster. I would even take the P4 2.4C over a 2.8 533. Soyo Board P4 2.6C 800fsb for same price as your P42.8b 533fsb Geil PC3200 (256mbx2) with very good reviews for less then 100 bucks. Total: 359 $ if your looking for some ram with a little more zing but with a little more cost : Corsair XMS Low Latency PC3200 ( 256mbx2 ) You cant beat that price for a soyo board, a blazing cpu with lots of potential and paired DDR400 ram to run in dual channel to give you lots more bandwidth. Yes its from newegg but like most others around this neck of the woods ....... well..... i r pwned by newegg. They are the best. NEWEGG Edited January 3, 2004 by All Kill3r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL January 3, 2004 Share dwEEziL Member January 3, 2004 Just my opinion, but I would never by an OEM cpu. OEM cpu's only come with a 1 year warranty (maybe less depending on the seller) but retail comes with a three year warranty which, again in my opinion, is worth the extra $20-40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Kill3r January 3, 2004 Share All Kill3r Member January 3, 2004 yep i agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX January 3, 2004 Share NOFX Member January 3, 2004 this is the first time i have bought a retail cpu and only did so because it was only 5 bucks more than oem and you cant buy a heatsink for your oem processor for 5 bucks. Really if your processor dies after 2 1/2 years your gonna want a new processor anyway. :m0m: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flux January 3, 2004 Author Share flux Member January 3, 2004 alright thanks guys ... i'll let ya know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flux January 3, 2004 Author Share flux Member January 3, 2004 oh just another thing...... i was going to get that cpu now, then i am going to send the mobo back and get that one you linked me to. then im going to get the ram, sound like a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX January 4, 2004 Share NOFX Member January 4, 2004 yes be sure you get a 800fsb CPU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flux January 4, 2004 Author Share flux Member January 4, 2004 yea i was gunna get the one up there ^ that someone linked me to for 93$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX January 4, 2004 Share NOFX Member January 4, 2004 hm...you cant get a p4 on the 533 bus or 800 bus for $93 Usually around 160 for the 2.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flux January 6, 2004 Author Share flux Member January 6, 2004 well b4 i do all this ... what is so wrong with the 533 mhz one? i mean what will happen if i just stay with this mobo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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