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ok so my church wants a new computer to run powerpoint slides, some short video editing, office stuff, and other little stuff i'm sure they'll want to do later with it. right now we have a P3.. somthing or other, 128 ram... maybe.. well lets just say its slow, has problems and everyone wants to get rid of it. i've never put together a machine for these kinds of perposes so i've worked out 3 levels they could go to (its a church so cheap is good) and i'd like some of your imput for each of them to try and get them cheaper, faster, or what not. all prices are from new egg. 1 lvl Enlight Blue/Beige ATX Mid-Tower Case Power Supply A-3100 $40.00 Comes with 300w psu Lite-On Beige 52X32X52 CD-RW Drive LTR-52327S BEIGE $34.50 Panasonic 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive JU-257A-827P $9.99 ASUS nForce2 IGP Socket A CPU A7N8X-VM/400 $94.99 AMD Athlon XP 2000+, 266 FSB, 256K Cache Processor $57.00 Comes with a heatsink/fan Western Digital 20GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive WD200BB $55.49 2mb cache Kingston 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-2100 $76.00 TOTAL w/shipping $ 379.97 2 lvl Enlight Beige Micro ATX EN-7358-0PU $32.00 Comes with 200W psu Lite-On Beige 52X32X52 CD-RW Drive LTR-52327S BEIGE $34.50 Panasonic 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive JU-257A-827P $9.99 Western Digital 20GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive WD200BB $55.49 2mb cache Kingston ValueRAM 184 Pin 256MB DDR PC-2100 $86.00 Two sticks for dual channel CHAINTECH nForce2 Ultra 400 Socket A 7NIL1-SUMMIT $59.00 On board lan and sound AMD Athlon XP 2000+, 266 FSB, 256K Cache Processor $57.00 Comes with a heatsink/fan SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9200 Video Card, 128MB DDR, $64.00 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP TOTAL w/shipping $ 414.98 3 lvl ANTEC Black Solution Series ATX Mid-Tower Case SLK3700-BQE $72.00 Comes with a 350W psu, quiet. Lite-On Black 52X32X52 CD-RW Drive LTR-52327S $35.00 Panasonic Black 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive JU-256A-198P $10.99 Western Digital 40GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive WD400JB $63.50 8mb cache AMD Athlon XP 2500+ 333 FSB, 512K Cache Processor $75.00 ASUS nForce2 Ultra 400 Socket A CPU A7N8X $85.99 Speeze MicroFlow CPU Cooler for AMD 5T321B1H3 $8.99 Antec All Clear Pro 120mm Double Ball Bearing Case fan $13.00 Corsair Value Select 184 Pin 256MB DDR PC-2700 $93.00 Two sticks for dual channel SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9200 Video Card, 128MB DDR, $64.00 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP TOTAL w/shipping $ 546.47 ok well their they are, see what you can improve. thanks! *edit* oh yeah small and quiet are +++ too */edit*

yeah it really does depend on how much you want to spend. the C stepping P4s are great (have a 2.8 myself). but if you don't want to spend that much get a 333fsb barton. presscotts are obviously not good overclockers, but i can't really recall how the Ath64s are. well just my 2 cents.

i came from HS with a 2.7.. yeah so i went to CC and first semester was a 3.67 and after geting my 2 year degree i transfered here (NCSU) with a 3.34, was on deans list all but that last semester. now that im here think i droped to a 3.2 or something, need to stop slacking as much. oh and think my SAT was like 1300 or something.

how can you say no the sexy look of a tower

man the 9800 XT is sooo over rated, what you need is a voodoo 2 obsisdian. now theres some power!

im game!

could i play the part of mom in the drama? i'm a classicly trained drunk : )

Ringu is an awsome movie, i like it better than the ring, not that i dont also love the ring but, sadako is so much freakier than samara and the back story just flows better and makes more sinse. but because it is a japanese movie it does move slower and has less special effects and stuff, but the story is more solid if you ask me. also on a side note, the book it all originally came from was translated over here too, and is an great read, the story is really different than both movies (not going to say how) and if you like ether movie you should pick up the book. ok thats my 2 cents.

Kirin has two means, the first one is it is the name of a mythalogical beast in japanese lore, kindof like a griffen if i remember correctly, the second is uh, its a japanese beer company. theres this sushi bar in chapel hill and they have this blow up sumo wresler with KIRIN written across his shash thingy, one day i'm going to steal it.. they already told me its not for sale

why did they change the names?

well they brought out a cheaper Momo (im not talking about the $130 one, this one is $85, and has rubber grip not a leather one, and has the paddle shifters as well as a regular type shifter.

i can't deside between the sidewinder, or the Momo racing wheel, the sidewinder is cheaper, but the other is Momo made (kind of the wheel was designed by them) anyway, they both have about the same rating with the Momo being abit better most places. so its a price proformance question for me, should i spend the extra 20 for the momo or is the sidewinder good enough.

No one plays racing games here?

*points to topic* so yeah, i bought F1 challenge 99-02 today (thats F1 not A1 mmmm.... steak....) anyway, i need a good wheel to kick shumie's donkey, anyone got a suggestion? thanks, go BMW!

from what i've read over the net AMD is the way to go for their bartons that are below the 2500+ chip and intel is the best for everything above. so which one is best depends on how fast you want the chip.

nintendo, sega, valve

2.8 P4 800Mhz Asus P4P800 deluxe mobo ati radeon 9800 pro turtle beach santa cruz sound card 48x24x48x plextor cdrw 16x light on dvd drive 80gig 8mb cashe WD "SE" HD mitsumi floppy (oh yeah baby) Enlight 430w psu ATC-111 coolermaster case 17" NEC 1760x lcd monitor altec lansing 45.2 2.1 speakers microsoft keyboard microsoft explorer 3.0a optical mouse func mouse pad 3M wrist rest protector thingy about 8 of those plastic zip thingys for cords and the best part of my computer...... the z25 lexmark printer.. cheaper than the ink cartages that go in it *edit* HD are an important part of a pc

i have the func 1030 as well and its a great pad, the clip is nice and the rough surface works great for optical mouses.

my atc-111 has one in top to na na na na na na na.

yeah im going to have to back killer on this one, i was there. and on d2 he said hello to me then asked why he was kicked and then i saw he was gone, so i pulled down my console and it had him asking why he was kicked as the last thing he said, then he threw a nade, killed someone, and poof he was kicked. he didnt say anything else.

bah give me buck-tick or ayumi anyday.

i know, i got one. hehe maybe they'll be forced to give me a brand new board that supports prescott

yeah not all the 865 boards will support prescott, but the higher quality ones should as this says "anyone entertaining the idea of getting a motherboard with the i875P chipset must ask themselves an important question: will the Northwood successor "Prescott" actually be supported by the board? It will, according to internal information from Intel papers, provided that an appropriate voltage regulator is used, in compliance with VRM specification 10.0. Add an adapted BIOS, and you should be good to go"( now it won't support the better ones but the first ones that come out this Dec. or when ever are suppost to work on the 865 and 875 boards. also, inferno don't waste your money on the 875 boards, get a 865p board as companies like Asus and Abit have sorta unlocked the PAT tech that intel only wanted on the higher priced 875 boards, so by buying one of these boards with the unlocked PAT tech your geting a top of the line board for the price of a mainstream board. as for what prescott is, its the next new intel chip, i guess it will be the P5 or whatever but it will be .09 micron and some other stuff im too lazy to all write out, but heres some links. http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzM4 http://www4.tomshardware.com/business/2003..._2003_2-01.html://http://www.hardocp.com/article.html..._2003_2-01.html well after reading those articals that irzad posted i guess its all up in the air as of now, i'd still hope that they will, but its not looking good.

don't listen to them, they're just AMD fan boys. intel has the best chips right now, and if you get one of the new 865 or 875 boards it will also support the first prescott processors too.

like i told you on AIM, i'd go with the asus p4p800 (Deluxe if you want raid) its a good stable and fast board.