Fatty October 20, 2005 Share Fatty GC Founder October 20, 2005 NICE JOB WAYFARER!!!!! Yes, keep those posts coming! You are motivating me! SJ, keep us updated....post on your diet if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep48 October 20, 2005 Share shep48 Member October 20, 2005 john, 2 years ago I fractured T 7 in 2 places, I sit at my job to, sometimes for 12hours at a time in a chair that shakes and vibrates bad (locomotive). You need to get to a Dr, and get him to refer you to a specialist, (neurosurgeon). Did you have mri and catscans after injury? did you have surgery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stutters October 20, 2005 Share stutters GC Alumni October 20, 2005 back thread - if this gets too cluttered with anything but result tracking, way might get off easy. not on my watch. JOHNNY Wednesday October 19 breakfast: coffee (3 cups), whole wheat bagel bar, handful of almonds mid snack: cliff bar + tons o water (plus alleve) lunch: 6" safeway sandwich. they put mayo on it (gah!), so turned into meat and pickle with lettuce as my burrito wrap. dinner: leftover spaghetti and meatballs. whole wheat noodles, but the meatballs were homemade (Mmmm bacon). late snack: bowl of cereal (blueberry morning + honey nut clusters) in soy milk. half the stuff i'm eating tastes like cardboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer October 20, 2005 Author Share wayfarer Member October 20, 2005 way might get off easy. not on my watch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LOL!! Glad to hear you can still wield a whip with your back the way it is!!! LOL!! half the stuff i'm eating tastes like cardboard. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> SJ, what you eat is as important as what your doing. Your eating A LOT of "quick meal" bars that are loaded with all kinds of chemicals. Did you start doing this at the same time as your routine adjustment? Believe me this could be having more impact on your back than you think!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stutters October 20, 2005 Share stutters GC Alumni October 20, 2005 SJ, what you eat is as important as what your doing.Your eating A LOT of "quick meal" bars that are loaded with all kinds of chemicals. Did you start doing this at the same time as your routine adjustment? Believe me this could be having more impact on your back than you think!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> nah these aren't your metamax protein bars or anything of that "get fit quick" nonsense...unless you consider cliff bars that. i've been convinced of the eating less eating more theory. instead of three traditional meals, i snack frequently, but snacking on healthy things. the cliff bars are the the bridge between breakfast and lunch or lunch and dinner. believe it or not, they're made up of brown rice, soy, oats, peanuts, and a slew of vitamins and minerals. not meals, just snacks. the energy bars i've been having for breakfast are compressed bagels. i eat these when i don't have time for cereal or ran out of eggs. it's more of a bagel bar then an energy bar, but instead of being a white bagel, it's wheat. stone ground whole wheat with raisins, nuts, apples, and cinnamon. i've never been a big believer of the "3x your daily protein" bars unless i'm going for a 12 mile day hike and can't carry a lot of food. long story short, i hate chemicals and preservatives as much as the tree hugging granola eating hippies out there do. except i'm not a hippy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer October 22, 2005 Author Share wayfarer Member October 22, 2005 WAYFARER Thursday October 20 Breakfast: grapefruit & breakfast beagle (egg cheese bacon) Lunch: cup of tomato soup & grilled cheese sandwich dinner: large salad 2 sausages potatoes & mixed vegetables 4 sets 4 laps (approx 15 mins to complete) approx 20 mins in sauna Friday October 21 Breakfast: grapefruit Lunch: sushi (10 pcs) Dinner: hot dogs (3) handful of french fries (baked) 5 sets of 6 laps (approx 32 mins to complete) approx 20 mins in sauna OFFICIAL WEIGH IN 204 Lbs WOOT!! I'm actully quite surprised at this weight. Although I have been swimming for quite some time, I have never done as much as I'm doing now. (122 laps this week!) Needless to say I have noticed a HUGE increase in upper body muscle mass. Forearms, bi's, tri's, shoulders, chest, everything. The fact that I have not gained weight is a little surprising. I'll post pics next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*BiGBonES** October 23, 2005 Share *BiGBonES** Member October 23, 2005 w000000000t Keep it up wayfarer, keep pumping them muscles of yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer October 25, 2005 Author Share wayfarer Member October 25, 2005 WAYFARER Worse than a nade thrown into 4 CT's trying to diffuse a bomb!! Saturday Oct 22 Breakfast: grapefruit, sausage mcmuffin with egg, 2x hashbrown Lunch 2x slices of pizza Dinner: bowl of rice with steak/shrimp/scallops & vegtables Dessert: large slice of cake Took the day off, neices' birthday party. Sunday Oct 23 Breakfast: 2x tea biscuits with butter Lunch: cup of tomato soup with cackers snuck in another slice of cake Dinner: large salad, roast chicken, mashed potatoes, brocoli Dessert: large slice of cake 5 sets of 6 laps in pool, approx. 15 mins in sauna Monday Oct 24 Breakfast: porridge Lunch: bowl of homemade soup with 2x bread with butter Dinner: bowl of homemade soup with 3x slices of pizza (left over from party) gave rest of cake to family friend, NO DESSERT!! 4 sets of 4 laps in pool, approx. 15 mins in sauna. NOT FEELING TOO GOOD....WEIGHT....207 Lbs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty October 25, 2005 Share Fatty GC Founder October 25, 2005 You're doin fine. Your weight is gonna flex! Keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer October 27, 2005 Author Share wayfarer Member October 27, 2005 WAYFARER Tuesday Oct. 25 Breakfast: grapefruit Lunch: bowl of homemade soup Dinner: large salad, steak snack: grenola bar 5 sets 6 laps 15 mins in sauna Wednesday Oct. 26 Breakfast: granola bar Lunch: homemade soup, cheese, hardboiled egg Dinner: large salad, small plate of spagetti decided to take a break from swimming today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stutters October 27, 2005 Share stutters GC Alumni October 27, 2005 man, that's a good lookin diet. keep it up bud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*BiGBonES** October 30, 2005 Share *BiGBonES** Member October 30, 2005 yo way, any updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer October 30, 2005 Author Share wayfarer Member October 30, 2005 WAYFARER The week ended on a bad note. Although my eating habit has not changed, I had some trouble with my car & had to leave it overnight Thursday. By the time I got it back I had missed swimming for both days. Because I decided to not swim on Wednesday, I missed a total of 3 days! I did go yesterday, 5 sets of 6 laps, and I will be going today. My official weigh in for this week is 206 Lbs I'm going to try and break the 200 mark by next Saturday. If I can get close I'll be happy. I'll post updates every day between now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer November 1, 2005 Author Share wayfarer Member November 1, 2005 (edited) WAYFARER Monday October 31 Breakfast: granola bar & an apple Lunch: homemade soup & cheddar cheese slices Dinner: 3 small slices of pizza (everyone's in a hurry because of halloween) 5 sets 6 laps in the pool. approx 15 mins in sauna. FEELING MUCH BETTER TODAY!!!! BTW SJ, way might get off easy. not on my watch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where ya been? I'm covering this trench all alone buddy!! Edited November 1, 2005 by wayfarer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer November 3, 2005 Author Share wayfarer Member November 3, 2005 WAYFARER Tuesday Nov 1 Breakfast: granola bar Lunch: bowl of homemade soup cheese & crackers Dinner: large salad roasted chicken & corn niblets Did no swimming today Wednesday Nov 2 Breakfast: grapefruit, apple Lunch: 2 bowls homemade low carb soup cheddar cheese Dinner: 2 bowls homemade low carb soup, 1 filet of catfish Snack: small bowl of all bran (for fibre) 5 sets 6 laps approx 15 min. in suana. Decided to restrict my carb intake in my diet. Going to cut out for 2 weeks the following; potatoes, pasta, bread, rice. Will slowly reintroduce after the two weeks. This is the "atkins diet" Basically it forces the body to burn fat instead of carbohydrates (in case anyone does not know what it is) adding a heavy fibre intake to my diet (all bran) & replacing the rest with meat, fruits & vegetables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stutters November 3, 2005 Share stutters GC Alumni November 3, 2005 Decided to restrict my carb intake in my diet. Going to cut out for 2 weeksthe following; potatoes, pasta, bread, rice. Will slowly reintroduce after the two weeks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i was at about 240 six years ago....and not because of massive muscle mass. i think by dumb luck, i started consciously reducing my dairy. i traded milk for soy milk (yuk), but i would drink milk like it was water. the only cheese i would have would be on salad, and it was goat cheese. i don't know how much it helped, but i know it didn't hurt. you still calcium from yogurt, orange juice, and a ton of other places. just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubblegum Bandit November 3, 2005 Share Bubblegum Bandit Member November 3, 2005 WAYFARERDecided to restrict my carb intake in my diet. Going to cut out for 2 weeks the following; potatoes, pasta, bread, rice. Will slowly reintroduce after the two weeks. This is the "atkins diet" Basically it forces the body to burn fat instead of carbohydrates (in case anyone does not know what it is) adding a heavy fibre intake to my diet (all bran) & replacing the rest with meat, fruits & vegetables. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know plenty of people who have lost weight like this. Hell, my dad's docter told him to go on Atkins at one point because he NEEDED to lose weight due to our family history of heart disease. However, seeing as you are working out in the process I'll lend to you what I'll call a warning I guess. When atkins hit the market I was BIG into my weightlifting stuff. I believe it was in the spring during which time each year I was trying to shead fat while retaining muslce (bulk in winter, get lean for the summer kinda thing). People were raving about Atkins and how well it worked. I was on it for less than a week when I started to realize I had NO energy. I couldn't lift the same weight I had been lifting, couldn't do as many reps, yadda yadda. To make a long story less long, just watch your energy levels, I would think halfway across the pool would be a bad time to run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoften November 4, 2005 Share lostoften Member November 4, 2005 As an athlete we were told to stay away from Atkins diet b/c it takes your body too long to break down fat rather than utilize the carbs. Then again, that is for a performance aspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer November 5, 2005 Author Share wayfarer Member November 5, 2005 I would think halfway across the pool would be a bad time to run out. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Duely noted! I'm still not sure if it's a good idea though. I've switched into high gear with the swimming & nothing is happening. I might have to see if my doctor will up my thyroid medication. This is nuts..... I'm literally hungry all the time and nothing is changing. Wed. - 5 sets 6 laps Thurs. 3 sets 6 laps fri. 5 sets 6 laps. Eating half of what I was. I have stayed @ 208 LBS all week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer November 6, 2005 Author Share wayfarer Member November 6, 2005 WAYFARER Thursday Nov 3 Breakfast: grapefruit Lunch: bowl of homemade soup cheddar cheese Dinner: large salad Beef & vegetable stir fry Snack: 1/2 bowl of all bran with milk 3 sets 6 laps in pool approx. 15 mins in sauna Friday Nov 4 Breakfast: grapefruit, apple Lunch: bowl of homemade soup, some leftover stir fry Dinner: large salad, bowl of homemade soup, cheddar cheese slices Snack: 1/2 bowl of all bran with milk 5 sets 6 laps in pool approx. 15 mins in sauna Saturday Nov 5 Breakfast: grapefruit, apple Lunch: bowl of homemade soup, hardboiled egg, cheddar cheese slices Dinner: large salad, steak & vegetable stir fry Snack: 1/2 bowl of all bran with milk 3 sets 6 laps in pool approx. 20mins in sauna OFFICIAL WEIGH IN: 207 Lbs At times like these only one thing comes into my mind.....what Hannibal said before crossing the Alps...... WE SHALL EITHER FIND A WAY, OR WE SHALL MAKE ONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty November 6, 2005 Share Fatty GC Founder November 6, 2005 When are you swimming during your day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer November 6, 2005 Author Share wayfarer Member November 6, 2005 When are you swimming during your day? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lunch time actually. Except on the weekends, 4:30pm Best times the pool is open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ich bin ein berliner November 7, 2005 Share ich bin ein berliner Member November 7, 2005 Atkins went bankrupt for a reason, its downright a bad idea. anything other than good ol fashioned excersize, balanced meals and cutting out junk food is generally a bad idea. lostoften is right, taking out carbs in your diet will decrease your energy. my first hand knowledge with the diet, my brother did it for about 3 months, he lost weight stedily but he was ALWAYS tired, taking naps during the day to compensate for lack of energy from no carbs. eating all meat will be punishment on your arteries. red meat is the wrost culprit. considering your already drastically reducing your choices of food by taking carbs out, your not gonna wanna stick to the two white meats, poultry and fish. general workout tips: in order to lose weight (losely applied) your heart rate has to be somewhere between 120-140 beats per minute. to find this, count your heart rate for 10 seconds. then times that by 6. so if count 25 beats in 10 seconds 25 x 6 = 150. I believe your heart rate needs to be in the 120-140 for 20-40 minutes to burn calories sufficiently. If your heart rate is not consistantly above 120 for the time that you swim in the pool, i would suggest that you swim straight through. instead of racing your 50's, (you do 3 sets of 3, 50s). Swim 150 yards straight at an easy pace, then take your heart rate. wait your 2 minutes, then do another 150. if this isn't possible to do because your shoulders hurt, see if you can get coaching (which will help you immensly) or choose another workout. the next low impact workout i can think of is ellipical machine. rock out on that for 40 minutes straight, should be fun. swimming is an extremly hard racing sport to get good at. i've spent thousands of hours in the pool over the past 4 years and swam hundred of thousands of yards and i still have no perfected my breast stroke form or freestyle form which are the two strokes i mainly swim during practice. i'm not trying to discourage you, i think its quite noble that your swimming. its just my personal advice. i believe that coaching in any way shape or form will help you immensly. good luck, keep up the effort. where theres a will theres a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer November 7, 2005 Author Share wayfarer Member November 7, 2005 *sigh* A lot of people can not understand what I am going through and I really don't want to explain that any further if I can help it. Ich, I have been swimming all my life. My father had a pool in our backyard for as long as I can remember. When I was growing up, both my sisters and myself went to swimming lessons constantly. For a number of years my sister was a lifeguard. I attained the bronze cross in swimming, which I don't know what the American equivilant is, but I was one step away from being a lifeguard myself. I was hounded by my highschool teachers to try out for the highschool swim team constantly. I do not have a coach, but there are certainly a number of people whom I swim with that swim competitivly who I would regard as "mentors". Please understand that swimming is, at this point, my ONLY option. There is a reason why I am only doing as much as I am. I measure my heartrate constantly. (BTW measuring for 6 seconds & X by 10 I find is easier) It usually sits around 150-160 BPM. Wondering if that might even be a little high. Maybe I'm in a cardio zone instead of a fat burning zone. Please do not mistake the tone of this post Ich. Your input is incredibly valuable at this time for me, as what your doing inspires me greatly. In fact your post on how to use your legs during front crawl (freestyle) made me examine how I was using my legs improperly & I adjusted them accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer November 7, 2005 Author Share wayfarer Member November 7, 2005 Oh, I'm not actually on "atkins" per say. I have just cut down some of my carb intake. I have not found myself to be tired at all, and this is only for 2 weeks to have my body burn fat more readily. I think my real problem is I have to eat less. Even though I have cut down on the eating, its not enough. Cutting out some of my carbs is helping me do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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