Brew March 30, 2008 Share Brew Member March 30, 2008 it started happing when i built my new computer. the game freezes and the fans start ramping up to high speed. then, either the comp restarts or i have to restart it myself. the only old parts i used were my vid card and HD... cs is not installed on my old HD so that can't be it. i dont think it's over heating because i checked my cpu temp and that was normal. the vid card's fan is running and it doesn't feel too hot... plus, the comp can crash when i just start to play the game... im goin to check if i have all the updated drivers for my vid card but is there any other suggestions out there for me? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew March 30, 2008 Author Share Brew Member March 30, 2008 ok so my graphic drivers were out of date. i didnt clean the old ones off first so i hope that doesn't matter... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack March 30, 2008 Share bushwack Member March 30, 2008 (edited) System specs? CPU video card and power supply please. never mind I never uninstall nvidias drivers but i dunno about ATI. Running fine now with the new driver installed? Edited March 30, 2008 by bushwack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot March 30, 2008 Share shoot Member March 30, 2008 Most likely the driver. You should probably list your components and OS so the others can help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew March 30, 2008 Author Share Brew Member March 30, 2008 well WITH the updated vid drivers the game just crashed on me so thats not it... crap... ATI Radeon X700 PRO 2.66 ghz core 2 duo 4mb l2 cache 2 GB RAM DDR2 6 channel 16 bit pci sound card 430 WATT PS intel media series DP35DP motherboard XP Home edition i forgot about the sound card. that was part of my old comp that i installed on the new one... well im gonna go to intel now make sure i got all the drivers for the cpu and mobo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot March 30, 2008 Share shoot Member March 30, 2008 well WITH the updated vid drivers the game just crashed on me so thats not it... crap... ATI Radeon X700 PRO 2.66 ghz core 2 duo 4mb l2 cache 2 GB RAM DDR2 6 channel 16 bit pci sound card 430 WATT PS intel media series DP35DP motherboard XP Home edition i forgot about the sound card. that was part of my old comp that i installed on the new one... well im gonna go to intel now make sure i got all the drivers for the cpu and mobo Maybe a coincidence, but my son's computer has the x700 also and does the same thing once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Chip Douglas March 30, 2008 Share Lord Chip Douglas Member March 30, 2008 I had a soundblaster card that I transfred to a newer system and it would lock my system up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack March 30, 2008 Share bushwack Member March 30, 2008 Do you have a different power supply you could swap out with it? Almost sound like your PS is pooting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew March 30, 2008 Author Share Brew Member March 30, 2008 no i dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo March 30, 2008 Share Cujo Member March 30, 2008 if it's consistent (like exactly the same every time) then it's likely a software/driver issue. if it's more random then it's likely a hardware issue. one thing to try is to take it all apart and then put it all back together again. you could have a short somewhere or maybe a cable isn't full plugged in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew March 30, 2008 Author Share Brew Member March 30, 2008 i took out the sound card. still froze... ill try taking everything apart now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymo March 31, 2008 Share anonymo Member March 31, 2008 Make sure your onboard sound is disabled in the BIOS. Make sure you clean off the old ATI drivers before ever putting new ones on. Make sure your HD has enough room to fit your paging file (and that your paging file is at least 150% of your RAM, and preferably you have your paging file on a separate HD than the one with your OS and no paging file on the HD with your OS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo March 31, 2008 Share Cujo Member March 31, 2008 Make sure your HD has enough room to fit your paging file (and that your paging file is at least 150% of your RAM, and preferably you have your paging file on a separate HD than the one with your OS and no paging file on the HD with your OS) i keep my pagefile on the os hdd and install and run my games off the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL March 31, 2008 Share dwEEziL Member March 31, 2008 I still think it's a temp issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew April 1, 2008 Author Share Brew Member April 1, 2008 Make sure your HD has enough room to fit your paging file (and that your paging file is at least 150% of your RAM, and preferably you have your paging file on a separate HD than the one with your OS and no paging file on the HD with your OS) you lost me there ... what is a paging file *gulp Make sure you clean off the old ATI drivers before ever putting new ones on. whats a good driver sweeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymo April 1, 2008 Share anonymo Member April 1, 2008 Make sure your HD has enough room to fit your paging file (and that your paging file is at least 150% of your RAM, and preferably you have your paging file on a separate HD than the one with your OS and no paging file on the HD with your OS) i keep my pagefile on the os hdd and install and run my games off the other one. I was under the impression that Windows uses the pagefile more than any other application, especially when you have enough physical memory to handle whatever application you're using (let's say, CS for example). I just recently realized my page file was on both my HDDs, so I removed it completely from my C:\ (OS HD) and my PC is running much, for the lack of a better word, more smoothly. This might be because I have a IDE as my C: running at 100Gb/s and a SATA as my alternate running at 150Gb/s. Also, I think my C: pagefile was causing memory hungry applications to crash (Hellgate London and Cubase were both pretty unstable before I did this) as they work fine now that my C has no pagefile. It's only recently that I've been poking around various Windows optimization guides and one of them recommended removing the pagefile from your Windows partition... Brew: Control Panel>System>Advanced Tab>Performance Settings>Advanced Tab>Virtual Memory Change button There you can set which HDs have a page file and how big it is. The page file is basically your OS using a harddrive as low priority RAM. I recommend using Guru3D's Drive Sweeper as you don't have to install this version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo April 1, 2008 Share Cujo Member April 1, 2008 it's weird that your pagefile would have been divided by windows by default. yes, i've heard taking it off the windows drive helps. the reason i haven't done this is because i run my css off my other drive so i figure loading to pagefile would be fastest this way. i may try switching it and see if i notice a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymo April 2, 2008 Share anonymo Member April 2, 2008 it's weird that your pagefile would have been divided by windows by default. yes, i've heard taking it off the windows drive helps. the reason i haven't done this is because i run my css off my other drive so i figure loading to pagefile would be fastest this way. i may try switching it and see if i notice a difference. Oh no...no default...just me forgetting stuff I had done long ago. I'll go for months not touching anything in Windows and then go ape messing with settings one day...then forget I did it. Alcohol and computers mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew April 2, 2008 Author Share Brew Member April 2, 2008 Make sure your HD has enough room to fit your paging file (and that your paging file is at least 150% of your RAM, and preferably you have your paging file on a separate HD than the one with your OS and no paging file on the HD with your OS) i keep my pagefile on the os hdd and install and run my games off the other one. I was under the impression that Windows uses the pagefile more than any other application, especially when you have enough physical memory to handle whatever application you're using (let's say, CS for example). I just recently realized my page file was on both my HDDs, so I removed it completely from my C:\ (OS HD) and my PC is running much, for the lack of a better word, more smoothly. This might be because I have a IDE as my C: running at 100Gb/s and a SATA as my alternate running at 150Gb/s. Also, I think my C: pagefile was causing memory hungry applications to crash (Hellgate London and Cubase were both pretty unstable before I did this) as they work fine now that my C has no pagefile. It's only recently that I've been poking around various Windows optimization guides and one of them recommended removing the pagefile from your Windows partition... Brew: Control Panel>System>Advanced Tab>Performance Settings>Advanced Tab>Virtual Memory Change button There you can set which HDs have a page file and how big it is. The page file is basically your OS using a harddrive as low priority RAM. I recommend using Guru3D's Drive Sweeper as you don't have to install this version. ok, my paging file is on the HD that my OS is on so ill switch the paging file to the other HD... im gonna clear and reinstall my video drivers i gotta make sure my sound is turned off in the bios also... thanks guys, ill report back to you soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymo April 3, 2008 Share anonymo Member April 3, 2008 Darn...I just realized we're helping brew play CS...where he kills me... just delete your system32 folder...that always fixes everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew April 19, 2008 Author Share Brew Member April 19, 2008 i took the cover off my case and set a fan to blow right into it. it hasnt froze yet... i have a feeling it might be my video card overheating i remembered the video card fan ramping up when i started playing video games. this stopped after i installed it in my new comp. either the fan speed is shot or it's not sensing the need for more cooling... or somthing anyways can anyone recommend a good heat sink or something that will fit my radeon X700 PRO (PCI slot)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly April 19, 2008 Share dragonfly Member April 19, 2008 Did you try manually setting the fan speed with riva tuner first? That's free and it lowers my temps by 10C. I have settings for 80% and 100% fan speed (my default is 60%). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew April 25, 2008 Author Share Brew Member April 25, 2008 (edited) update: well im back to square one... even with the house fan on the pc it's still crashing... i started to troubleshoot the PS. i disabled both of my cd/DVD drives and it still crashed... im feelin the temptation to buy a new PS even tho this one is practically new... Edited April 25, 2008 by Brew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL April 25, 2008 Share dwEEziL Member April 25, 2008 Pick up a power supply tester. They're not very expensive and they can help you quickly determine if your PSU is indeed to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymo April 25, 2008 Share anonymo Member April 25, 2008 <wishes he could fix brews computer so he could frag me again> I know its a dream but fixing your computer isn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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