LoveForPriscillaChan

http://xkcd.com/386/ just to let you know, i'm one of those people so please excuse me if i get a little worked up here; also, just as some background info, i am an atheist, chinese, a liberal and i believe religion is pyscho (so yes, i am extremely biased in my arguments) i'll number my arguments with (( number )) so it easier to respond to; i'll try to add spacing between my points also to make it easier on the eyes (( 1 )) wrong Definitions of predate on the Web: * be earlier in time; go back further; "Stone tools precede bronze tools" As an example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analects (this is an EXCEPTIONAL read if you guys are ever interested) (( 2 )) Using this as a reference: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_...&version=31 it states that moses crossed the red sea but in fact, (if this happened at all) moses crossed the sea of reeds, (or Reed Sea) Due to the Red Sea entry being in the bible, we are left with 2 choices: 1. The story of moses leading the israelites is true BUT the Red Sea Entry is wrong, meaning the bible told something that was not true 2. The story of moses leading the israelites is not true at all (this way, he can cross whatever sea he wants) either way, this passage of the bible is wrong a simpler one would be that creationist claims the earth is only 6000 years old (( 3 )) shaftiel already made a point about this but just to add a philosophical point to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot (( 4 )) Here is a favorite quote i stole from my friend (i can only assume he stole from someone else): "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." "When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." (( 5 )) Another point i want to make for all the *supposed* historical evidence backing up the bible: correlation does not imply causation! MAYBE there was a flood during the such and such time period that is documented in the bible, maybe event X happened at location Y at time splice Z but this does not mean a god or gods had any hand in this; assume this: I write a book today that says that person P was the god re-incarnate into human form (i whole heartedly contend this person to be Priscilla Chan ) and in my book, I write about the katrina hurricane, 9/11 attacks, war in iraq, etc etc.; this book gets passed down from generation to generation in my family; fast forward 2,000 years and some guy runs around claiming that PChanianity is true because there IS historical evidence of the katriana hurricane, 9/11 attacks, war in iraq etc. does this automatically mean PChanible is true, correct, and the word of god? (( 6 )) here's a point to ponder about: Supposing the bible were true, adam and eve were the first humans (and therefor the first generation) and we are all descended from them right? Ok, they have children (cain, abel, seth, etc etc; this is the 2nd generation). so all is fine and well until you get to this part: incest yes, that's right; how else can the 3rd generation be given birth to? there were no other people except those that were descended from adam and eve; now, fast forward 6000 years; this means that every single person that has had sex on this world has committed incest becuase we are all descendants of adam and eve, which means we are all related in some way; talk about 6 degress of separation! (( 7 )) again, the age old test that god cannot be omnipotent: can god make a rock so big he can't lift it? or in a more humorous terms, can god make a burrito so big he can't eat it? now, the responses i have received from this little point is that i am just unable to comprehend the power that is god but i believe that is an unacceptable response; it seems to me that when the people who wrote the bible, they thought: "what kind of god would it be if he has a weakness? ok, let's make him all-powerful! that way, he'll be the best god ever!" but little did they know that philosophers will come and bite them on the butt later on with reason so now, without using faith, and explain this to me like i'm a 5 year old: what the answer? can he make a rock so big he can't lift it? (( 8 )) Even from a conceptual standpoint, it seems silly to believe like this. I mean this is what it sounds like to me. "I'm not going to accept this as true because I see the possibility of things that could later be shown true that would discredit this." This sounds like the same kind of "devil's advocate", circular reasoning I used to use on my sister to just get her goat. i'll give you a better example of circular reasoning: 1. The bible must be true because god said so. 2. god is true because bible said so Just one thing i want you guys to keep in mind as we progress in this discussion: 1. Winners write history; according to wiki: "As of the early 21st century, it has between 1.5 billion[3][4] and 2.1 billion adherents,[5] more than any other religion, and representing about a quarter of the world's population" note: sorry if you feel i am picking on you preacher but your posts seem the most reasonable in length for reading, most others were just too long so i just scanned and anything involving mithral i just skipped in the end, to give my personal opinion on the bible, religion, etc: 1. yes, it is possibly one of hte greatest pieces of text ever written and one of the most influential as well 2. yes, some things in the bible are true and do have historical evidence to back it up 3. yes, i am sure bible/religion has done good in this world 4. with #3 in mind, i will also say that it has done more harm than good to this world; religion can serve to unite a people to serve a cause but is that cause any good? would these harmful acts have taken place if there were no religious justification? nobody knows for sure but it seems to be heavy driving force EDIT: for those of you that just scrolled down to the bottom to see what this post is all about, this post is actual an optical illusion! it is not as long as it seems; there are a lot of newlines and such also, since i have presented so many points (whether they are valid or not), i am going to be discussing this on multiple fronts with multiple parties so please, for the love of god (yes i love using this saying ), keep your posts organized and re-use my numbers!

http://www.gadgetreview.com/2006/01/runaway-clock.html http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-ga...fly-alarm-clock

dust 1, militia, that 1.6 map with the downed airplane that was set in a jungle setting its going to be old school CS all over again edit: come to think of it, imagine the fun DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY will have if we go militia...every round he'll join CT and it'll be sewers to cameras to topside to roof to inside to hosties to sewers to CT spawn i cannot wait

i always random; can't say that about everybody that plays on this server though, sadly

i'm kinda happy that noboyd votes on the map polls becuase that means my #1 vote for de_dust counts for more de_dust 4 EVA!!!

[sA] == super awesome i'm really tempted to wear PCP in the server but i'm afraid i'll get kicked for the drug reference when it really is not

speaking of m4, you still owe me one demoner; dont think i forget to collect!

you know the server is in trouble when you see # of awp kills rankings: 2. me 5. shaft 8. DOOLY

we are also bots that talk on forums by we i mean you guys and not me since i'm not a bot

server switches for them; i'm only blocking manual team switching; team-switches by admins + server is still allowed

ok, back to the issue at hand: what are we going to do about team stacking? rely on admin? ptb? auto-random for everybody and block team-switching (this is my favorite choice becuase it keeps a team intact for the duration of the map instead of switching over and over and over like ptb does) btw, can we make it so the server doesn't wait one round to balance the teams based on numbers? its annoying to see "teams will be balanced next round"...why not do it THIS round?

we had a thread like this couple of months back and the conclusion the majority of this community came to was to let the admins police the teams, which was something i didn't agree on; i have seen admins attempt to balance teams out (skill-wise, not by numbers) and that is very good, but that doesn't happen enough but the problem is admins are not on the server 24/7 (and we should not expect them to be) my choice was using something like PTB or, at the very least, auto-random everybody; people say that auto-randoming people would result the same thing but they still havent explained to me how it would result in the same thing...something automated that runs in the background is needed so it can be enforced on the server 24/7 and it is very very VERY annoying to be sitting as CT at the beginning of the map on italy, holding tab, and watching the teams go: 3 T v 3 CT 4 T v 3 CT 5 T v 3 CT 6 T v 3 CT 6 T v 4 CT 7 T v 4 CT 8 T v 4 CT

i don't leave early every day and when i do, it is for a good cause

you're accusing me of leaving work early, while you leave work early to play CS!

i heard silverlight is pretty easy to program in and somebody here posted a link to a silverlight website not so long ago; you should look into that

should be a storm that hit china couple of weeks ago

what do you listen to, where are they from, and how do end up finding it (either to buy, or how did you hear about it in the first place)? Dark - same to you: how do end up finding it (either to buy, or how did you hear about it in the first place)? i look at chinese websites (yesasia, malmusic) etc. to buy albums and ebay to buy second hand stuff. most of her stuff is not for print and therefore, no longer for sale and shouldnt you know who i listen to? the one and only of course and as i'm typing this, i'm listening to the album that is my avatar, "I am not Lonely" I bet if you listen to that album you are lonely... well, when i listen to Inquisitive Woman, it does not mean i turn into an Inquisitive Woman...

what do you listen to, where are they from, and how do end up finding it (either to buy, or how did you hear about it in the first place)? Dark - same to you: how do end up finding it (either to buy, or how did you hear about it in the first place)? i look at chinese websites (yesasia, malmusic) etc. to buy albums and ebay to buy second hand stuff. most of her stuff is not for print and therefore, no longer for sale and shouldnt you know who i listen to? the one and only of course and as i'm typing this, i'm listening to the album that is my avatar, "I am not Lonely"

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don't worry; it'll be a different song now; track 1 of this album: http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code...-music/pid-105/ with a wig like that, you know the song is awesome; i'll show you the booklet sometime lousiest; it contains a lot of cool pictures that i'm thinking of blowing it up to poster size and hanging it in my apartment edit: ok, upon further inspection, i'll throw in track 3 in there...maybe...cause that track fits her style more but i believe you'll hate track 1 more cause its one of the "upbeat" songs

My drive to work is not 40 min; its around 10-15 min to, and around 10-30ish40ish min back; and i play more than one track; don't you understand what i mean when i say 3, 6 or 9? also, there will be diversity soon because the albums i ordered from ebay arrive tomorrow (the slips arrive today after work and i sped down to the post office to pick it up, only to find out they havent arrived yet...stupid post office is TEASING me and i cannot take it anymore)

skyline, why are you playing GG? there are plenty of better things to do *ahem*videos 1-4*ahem*

dirty, i sent those msgs out to shaft + skyline as well so i expect formal apologies from them also! its what happens on sunday nights when i dont want to go to sleep yet haha; now i just need to find morbo's forum name.... btw, i think this is the first time on this server that the topic of Priscilla Chan was brought up by somebody other than me