Episode 3 movies/tv

[TeK]

Well it is almost upon the world. They have released the promo poster to go along with the movie.

 

 

 

Bottom one is the real poster, above is mock-up.

 

Thanks goes to Hood over at AIXGaming for finding this out.

 

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[bear^]

w0w!

 

cant wait!

[wilco]

Cant wait for May.

 

New house, the cubbies will be in full swing and Ep 3

 

Lisa and I had recently bought the DVD'sof 4,5,6 and she hadnt really remembered them so after those we went back and watched 1 and 2. She cant wait for the 3rd either now. Hopefully it will be good. On the DVD theres a short look at the new one coming up and it looks sweet.

[ConGregation]

Sorry but I can't get excited about Star Wars anymore. Not after the last two which, IMO, were pretty lousy. I hope its good but I don't really expect to be.

[TeK]

Part 1 was decent. I didn't even want to see part 2 in the movies. When I was watching it home I was like playing a game or something. Just didn't interest me.

 

How they did the postsers though are cool with the fade of vader in each of them.

[Dennis]

from what i understand episode 3 is going to be unlike all the others and will get a pg-13 rating which we all know would be odd for the star wars movies.

[ConGregation]

Who really cares about episode 1 and 2 characters? Obi Wan? He acts like a automoton. No personality. Qui Gon Gin (sp?) was slightly more interesting but just slightly. Queen Amidala again just runs around demanding justice. Anakin (older version) has a little character but the little he has is from his incessant whining. Now I grant you that Luke Skywalker whined in the originals but it wasn't this bad.

 

Think about it, what characters are really interesting? Jar Jar? Emperor Palpatine? (I think they ruined it by making him a people pleasing poilitician... this guys is spose to be the root of all evil and he glad handing people... blech). Frankly they are all boring.

 

Then think about episode 4-6 and those characters. First you have Darth Vader. Evil personified. They didn't reveal much about him which is great for the pure evil. Gave him the very dramatic wheeze and this imposing voice. And what an outfit. He was perfect. Then you have Luke which was weak but it was still kind of cool as a young man watching him struggle to fit into the new world he found himself. Then Leia was ok but still had more spunk than Queen Amidala and all of her enterouge (sp) could muster up together.

 

Then you have the rogue elements in Han Solo and Lando. I feel Han makes the movies personally. The idea that a rebel is so influenced by friendship, the cause, and eventually love gives the story impact. Plus he was great for comic relief.

 

All those great characters while the new series has none. Except if you cound R2D2 and C3PO.

 

And don't even get me started on how they messed the 'Force' up...

[wilco]

Emperor Palpatine? (I think they ruined it by making him a people pleasing poilitician... this guys is spose to be the root of all evil and he glad handing people... blech). Frankly they are all boring.

 

Everything he was doing in those movies was backstabbing and manipulating everyone that trusted him all the while self serving himself and the darkside. I thought it was interesting to watch the wolf in sheeps clothing. ;)There is alot of things going on in the first 2 that may not seem important but give clues and some understanding to why things are the way they are in the holy trilogy =)

 

I like Ep1 and Ep2 because they are Star Wars movies. They are not anywhere close to being as magic as the original trilogy but its a great story to tell and I have a feeling the weak build up will be rectified in the last movie. I cant wait!

Edited October 30, 2004 by wilco

[ConGregation]

I understand his purpose in doing those things. It just makes him devious. Did Vader have to weazle his way around everybody? No. He just force choked them! Now THAT is a bad guy!

 

The facts surrounding Vader are revealed bit by bit over the three movies. But initially you are presented with a single minded villain. Even his internal conflict is not really shown just that Luke believed it existed. Its just that you weren't shown much about him. Shoot you didn't even see his face. But Palpatine is portrayed the exact opposite. We see his deviousness and I'm sure his pure evil will be displayed eventually. And where we only saw a mask for Vader, we have seen the sickly sweet smile of a weak power hungry politician. Which one gave you nightmares?

 

I was just making the point that ep 1 and 2 failed entirely in characters where 4 - 6 excelled. Vader was a scary villain. Palpatine (so far) isn't.

 

But if I am not mistaked the same actor plays them in both trilogies. Now the palpatine of 'Return of the Jedi' was a great villain.

[Dennis]

*******SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS**********

Taken from theforce.net

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As much as I love digging into all these new spoiler threads to find the juicy bits, I thought it might be convenient to have one place we can keep it all together.

 

Comments and updates are always welcome.

 

 

***There is another Darth ... one we've never heard of before in the Star Wars to my knowledge. How could he tie into the film? If they doesn't appear in person, perhaps the character is part of the backstory? And on a related note, did you know the Journal of the Whills is in Episode III?

 

-DARTH PLAGUEIS- there are scores of legends about this Sith. But was he was powerful enought to cheat death? Certainly he could at least use the power of the Force to lengthen his life.

 

-****** of the Whills will also be mentioned, and ******** of the Whills will be mentioned, too.

 

***One of these is not like the other: Saleucami, Cato Neimoidia, Mygeeto.

 

-All 3 are planets, but one of them is very different.

 

-Cato Neimoidia is also described as a Neimoidian colony world. Well done!

 

-We all know that GL likes to use mytholgy and all that good stuff. I noticed that mygeeto sounds very close to Megiddo. If I'm not mistaken, the second word is a word used in the bible that refers to armageddon. Exactly the observation I was looking for!

 

-The birth planet of the twins is not on that list.

 

-All 3 are planets. The events on the planets are what is different. Think montage.

 

-This montage is in the middle of the film.

 

-On Cato Neimoidia the bad guys win.

 

-On Mygeeto the bad guys win

 

-But at Saleucami, the Jedi win

 

-Polis Massa is "the birth planet."

 

-Utapau: "it is a sinkhole planet."

 

***Yoda hitches a ride on a dragonfly creature called a Can-cell.

 

-There is also a toy coming out with Yoda riding the Can-Cell, too, I just learned.

 

***Odd Ball is a clone pilot that defends Obi-Wan's crippled ship after he is hit by flak.

 

-There is FLAK in the movie. Obi-Wan flys through it and gets hit.

 

***Order 66 is the directive Palpatine gives to wipe out the Jedi. The Clones turn at this point.

 

***Delegation of 2000 is the united Senators and politicians against Palpatine. They are concerned about his powers. This is the start of the Rebellion, before the Empire even takes shape.

 

***Confirmation: Yoda and Sidious duel

 

-Impressive enough of a sequence that he did not wish to give any additional details.

 

-We have "no idea" of the power of the Dark Side.

 

-You have no idea how bad Sidious is going to get. I didn't think George had it in him. HE DOES.

 

-Shots of the Yoda vs. Sidious fight have been complete, so it seems unlikely the scene will be cut. Yoda again does the karate pose to begin like in Episode III.

 

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***Confirmation of Anakin choking Padme?

 

-I'd bet he chokes her so hard her feet leave the ground.

 

-In the original cut, Anakin even threw her against the wall. Deleted scene!

 

-Did you mean Anakin threw Padme against the wall while choking her? Or that he threw her against the wall after he was done?

 

"Yeah, after. Man, you guys are watching VERY closely.

 

 

***Cin Drallig is played by Nick Gillard and he is a old Jedi lightsaber teacher.

 

***Suited Vader will not be seen killing off the remaining Jedi.

 

-Noted that there is still a surprise at the end.

 

***Dooku gets owned, I can tell you that.

 

***Mace falls a long way down. Kit Fisto is in this scene as well.

 

-"Yes, Mace goes through the window."

 

***Nos Monster

 

***Anakin's murder of the Younglings is not on-screen but implied

 

-Yeah, not shown on screen. In fact, none of it is, from a certain point of view. Dead bodies everywhere.

 

***The end of the Clone Wars, the Separatists were hoping a frontal assault (on Coruscant) would catch the Jedi weak and thin.

 

***When asked about Tarkin's role in RotS Josh replied: "He's in it for about a second."

 

***Ewan finally gets to act in this one. There's more emotion in 10 minutes of ROTS than all of the prequels combined.

 

***When asked about Boba Fett's role in RotS and the pictures floating around the net Josh stated: "All fake. Lucas doesn't waste time with this stuff this time."

 

-Is Boba Fett in Episode III at all?

 

"Nope."

 

***"I can tell you that Bene is a teenage Jedi apprentice that is killed in the Temple raid."

 

***"I was told the other day the most or all of the "fuel" scenes were cut from ROTS. For whatever that is worth."

 

***"BOGA is the name of Obi-Wan's lizard. I've been messing that name up I think. The BARC is the clonetroopers speeder, right?"

 

Some quick Q&A Updates:

 

Are there any scenes so far which are disappointing or not up to snuff?

 

"The BARG is a bit odd. "

 

When you say, "You have no idea how BAD Sidious gets" do you mean that in terms of his actions....and if so, does that come across in the dialogue too?

 

"BOTH."

 

Speaking of the dialogue, how is it this time around?

 

"MUCH BETTER. There's a few dumb lines between Anakin and Padme, but other than that ... YEAH."

 

Your reaction has been this strong WITHOUT an accompanying score. How much more drama will the music add to these scenes? "

 

"A+ I hope."

 

I've seen that now you rank it just below Empire...which is encouring, given you've not seen a final product yet. That being said, if the final product is that much better, might it surpass ESB in your mind? And also, if you think not, why not? What does ESB have right now that is lacking in Sith....(other than nearly 25 years of reverence behind it..LOL)?

 

"I hope so, but that would be very hard. ESB is an icon."

 

Will the individual planets be pretty memorable, visually? Star Wars landscapes have always had very distinctive characteristics.

 

"Yeah, Utapau is memorable ... the landing platform is in the middle of a sinkhole."

 

Are the performances in Ep. III amped up? In other words, from what you've seen, are we getting good stuff from the actors....(say by comparison to the previous two)?

 

"Yes 100% improved."

 

What specific elements might make this PG-13? Anakin's body? The "scare" factor if it's more intense? Name some broad-but-specific reasons....

 

"EVERYTHING. Especially Sidious"

 

It is safe to say tarkin is not in this movie?

 

"Tarkin is in. There is a cool unpublished tidbit about him though... "

 

Is Tarkin's role in the film in any sort of capacity or just a cameo?

 

"At best a cameo. JG"

 

Does Yoda really fart in the movie?

 

"In the rough cut, he did."

 

Can you give me a little hint or clue about Grievous?

Thanks.

 

"He hunches more than you would think. He is very different from the Clone Wars cartoon. Titi Jukassa is a young Jedi apprentice seen in the raid on the Temple."

 

Hey Josh, In The final duel between Anakin/Vader and Obi-Wan, are the two blue lightsabers the only ones used throughout the whole thing, or is a third (possibly red) saber thrown into the mix? Twelve minutes seems like an awful long time to go with just two lightsabers.

 

"Hmmm ... let me just tell you this. Most of the marketing from Frito Lay will be red vs blue. J"

 

Does Anakin/Vader use a Red Lightsaber at anytime during RotS?

 

"Yes."

 

When asked about Grievous' role and his sinister smart-donkey attitude

 

"He only speaks a little, and honestly in the big story arc of the movie he plays a footnote. Also, he is one of the last pieces of the SW3 puzzle to be completed, so most people will actually "see him" late in the game."

 

A hint/tidbit about Palpy's revelation about being Sidious/a Sith Lord? Like, is his "transformation" literal? A literal physical transition the audience sees on screen? Maybe during the Mace duel?

 

"You have no idea about that you are about to see. The simple answer is YES. Heck, yes ... "

 

" ...when you SEE this, you'll understand my energy in loving this scene. Almost shockingly cool ..."

 

Is it safe to say tarkin is not in this movie?

 

"Tarkin is in. There is a cool unpublished tidbit about him though"

 

During the Duel on Mustafar does the fight go through the beginning stages of the structures of the Death Star?

 

"I'd prefer to not answer that."

 

Is the whole Sifo-Dyas/erasing of the Jedi archive file that important or that surprising? Any hints please?

 

"Nah, it isn't important. Sidious should have erased the survelliance tapes!"

 

I was wondering if you could give me a rough estimate as to how long the Mace vs Sidious fight is going to be? How much screen time do you think this fight will get? Will it be a very brief confrontation or will it span several minutes?

 

"It isn't much of a fight, but those moments are central to the whole rest of the film. It will satisfy."

 

 

Do I bring my children see EPISODE III?

 

"There is 2 versions (or more) of EPISODE III filmed, one PG version."

 

Any hint on the number of ships in the duel?

 

"Lots and lots. You can even see them in the background of Anakin - Dooku duel."

 

 

Is Anakin Darth Vader before the suit?

 

"Yes."

 

Will Darth Sidious use a lightsaber?

 

"Heck Yeah."

 

Can you tell me anything at all about what causes Sidious's look to change?

 

"He gets p**sed at Mace and the confrontation squad."

 

Will Qui-Gon appear in any form in RotS?

 

"Nope, and thanks for the kind words."

 

Will we feel remorse for Anakin when he meets his "demise" or is he just the bad guy at this point we want to see taken out? In other words, is there ever a spark of uncertainty in Anakin during the duel, that perhaps he made a big mistake? A moment where he might BEGIN see the light?

 

"You DEFINITELY see this in the Mace/Sidious deal. AWESOME. By the lava, he's pretty much gone."

 

Do Obi-Wan and Yoda still believe that Anakin is redeemable by the very end of ROTS? That he can be brought back to the light side through either of his children. Do they still believe in the Prophecy by movie's end?

 

"Yoda and Obi-Wan are DESTROYED at the end of the prequels. If the twins can't save them, no one can. He is truly the last hope. By the end, I would say they have all but given up."

 

In the big "reveal" scene, is it Sidious that takes off his hood to reveal he is really Palpatine, or is it Palpatine who somehow reveals he is sidious? Also when he fights, does he fight in his Chancellor clothes or his sith robes as Sidious?

 

"1/1. And Sidious=Palpatine will be cemented once and for all ... by Yoda of all people."

 

So, are you saying that he reveals who he really is during the yoda duel? or are you saying that Yoda figures it out earlier in the film? I thought Pablo said in one of his hyperspace chats that we would see Sidious without his hood on. Is there still a scene were Sidious reveals who he really is to Mace or whoever?

 

"The answer is yes."

 

What exactly is Sidious hiding under that hood? Is it something out of the ordinary or just a bald Palpatine?

 

"Palpatine is shockingly evil looking. We've seen him old and evil, but never this way."

 

Are there any sequences (you mentioned Yoda vs. Sidious) that we'll want to refrain from knowing about before we see ROTS?

 

"Yoda vs Sidious is this. There's several more, actually. I was BLOWN AWAY when I saw the parts of the film that these rumors have been circulating for a while. They got it SO right."

 

Obi-Wan gets knocked out on the TF ship and later luckily beats Grievous with a blaster?

 

"Yup."

 

If Anakin is wiping the floor with everybody and then suddenly Obi-Wan is lasting against him, how will that be believable?

 

"It is. Obi-Wan is passionate about stopping Anakin once he realizes he can't be turned. Perhaps Anakin is weak or distracted, too."

 

Is Obi-Wan going to be seen as powerful enough to last around 12 minutes against Anakin?

 

"Actually THE DUEL is a misleading term. Maybe it should be THE DUELS."

 

What did you mean by Duels?

 

"The basic journey of the movie, once the dark side is unveiled, is to send Yoda to find Sidious and Obi-Wan to find Vader"

 

Although obviously you haven't seen the absolutely finished 100% ROTS, with what you've seen and heard right now, where would you rank ROTS in the Saga?

 

"#2 behind Empire, and it is darker and moodier than ESB."

 

How cool is Grievous going to be? Can LFL actually pull off a CG villain? Is the Obi-Wan & Grievous duel going to kick butt?

 

"It will. This is being finished REALLY LATE in the vfx cycle, so we'll see."

 

Will Owen tell Obi-Wan "He should of stayed out of it and not gotten involved"? If not then how does Obi-Wan know Owen's opinion on Anakin's involvement in the Clone Wars?

 

"More that he was impatient, cocky, etc. than anything else."

 

In terms of screen time, what are the approximate lengths of the ROTS duels?

 

"More than any other SW movie to date for sure."

 

How does the Kashyyyk battle(s) in ROTS stack up against the Geonosis sequence in AOTC?

 

"Dunno, that's one sequence I didn't get to see."

 

Pablo recently stated that Palpatine ‘didn’t get what he expected out of Anakin?’ Can you shed some light on this comment?

 

"No clue. He sure seems to get it to me."

 

Will we see Yoda use his lightsaber any time beside the fight with Sidious?

 

"Heck, yes. Yoda even cuts someone's head off!"

 

Will we see any unique outer space scenery other than the usual SW stuff?

 

"Well, there's a upper atmosphere opening battle, which includes the upper layer of the sky and the beginning of space. It is sweet, in the far distance below you can see the cityscapes and everything."

 

Is R2 with Anakin the whole film? If not when do they part ways?

 

"R2 is with Anakin during the crash landing."

 

Can you give any little nugget of information on the disappearing Jedi/Jedi spirit issue?

 

Totally explained in Episode III. Palpatine tells the whole story about Darth Plagueis during the ballet scene."

[gOOters]

Im kinda with ya Rev. The acting was weaker in the first two as well. Not to say that there werent some great players, there were, but there were a couple of bad actors (namely Anakin). The script didnt help much either.

 

But sometimes, you just luck out and get the perfect actor for each character and they interact beautifully. This is what happened with the original trilogy. Kinda like "Friends" or "Cheers", you get the drift.

 

Anyhow, I still love the movies and really look forward to the third Episode

[Guest zerodamage]

Im kinda with ya Rev. The acting was weaker in the first two as well. Not to say that there werent some great players, there were, but there were a couple of bad actors (namely Anakin). The script didnt help much either.

 

But sometimes, you just luck out and get the perfect actor for each character and they interact beautifully. This is what happened with the original trilogy. Kinda like "Friends" or "Cheers", you get the drift.

 

Anyhow, I still love the movies and really look forward to the third Episode

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Nothing can be worse than Episode -1! Blah. The only saving grace of that movie was Darth maul.

[Guest zerodamage]

What's sad is that the little mini-series on Cartoon Network called: Star Wars: Clone Wars was better than Episodes 1-2. They were great for a cartoon and the battles were awesome.

 

I agree with rev that the character development in Episodes 1-2 were terrible.

 

They at least had a pleasing looking actress as Queen Amadila.

[YoMamma]

im kinda a star wars nerd, so anything Star Wars Ill love. Even though the characters in Ep1 and 2 werent as good as in the OT, i still loved it.

[Batman]

Im with Yomamma, i read allllllll the starwars books... And i did/do like ep1+2, if you watch ep1 again palpatine's voice when he is darth sidious makes the movie worth watching..

 

There is a book that came out after ep1 with Obi and young Anakin about a living planet called Socot.. Some 50 yrs later in the books Luke finds the planet and it brings the whole story together.. Its very very cool. But the "New Jedi Order" books are a must read to any starwars fan.. Mind you, you kinda need to read all the books, otherwise you are gonna wonder about Han and Leah's kids..

 

But i must say that the books that take place right after Return of the Jedi are very good as well, Admiral Thrawn is as cool as Vader i think..

Edited November 11, 2004 by Batman

[Guest zerodamage]

Admiral Thrawn is as cool as Vadar i think..

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No. He is cooler. I am thinking we may see him in Episode-3.