auggybendoggy March 22, 2007 Share auggybendoggy Member March 22, 2007 Guys, I read that when building an intel dual core you must use a dual rail power supply. Is this true of a athlon? I'm looking at a x2 windsor 2.4 64 bit witha gigabyte mb GA-M61P-S3 from newegg. I'm wondering if I need a dual rail power supply? Aug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo March 22, 2007 Share Cujo Member March 22, 2007 not necessary. just make sure the 12v rail has at least 26a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher March 22, 2007 Share Preacher Member March 22, 2007 (edited) never hurts to have a better power supply than you need I run a 4400x2 and a 550 watt Ultra X2 Connect modular PS. I also run x1900xtx video card and my voltages stay very constant. For my money I say stick with Utra, they have very stable set-ups and are on the lower end of the price structure (tigerdirect usually has MIR) on top of that it's got a lifetime guarantee if you register online. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...7&CatId=106 That's my PS with a free case for $100 Edited March 22, 2007 by Preacher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy March 23, 2007 Author Share auggybendoggy Member March 23, 2007 one last question... what is better. the windsor 2.4 at 90ns or the brisbane 2.1 at 65ns I'm not sure which one to go with? Aug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo March 23, 2007 Share Cujo Member March 23, 2007 2.4ghz is better. what are you upgrading from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy March 23, 2007 Author Share auggybendoggy Member March 23, 2007 cooj, I'm going from a 3.0 northwood ht p4 478 aging fast : ) Aug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy March 23, 2007 Author Share auggybendoggy Member March 23, 2007 I guess a better question would be what better processor power can I get for 125.00 thats a newegg price for the windsor 2.4 ghz dual core amd. If anyone has a better purchase please point me in the direction. Auggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo March 23, 2007 Share Cujo Member March 23, 2007 nope. you can keep your same ram which i imagine is why you're doing this. what mobo have you selected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy March 23, 2007 Author Share auggybendoggy Member March 23, 2007 a gigabyte mb GA-M61P-S3, i want the firewire full atx for the ram slots. my only prob at this point is does it support xp 64? thats what I'll be using... actually it'll be a dual os xp 32 and xp 64 I use cubase for audio editing and gigastudio/atmosphere/stylus for music composition. so I need xp 32 for that. Aug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher March 23, 2007 Share Preacher Member March 23, 2007 you can run most 32bit programs on xp 64 - have you tried it out and failed or just guessing? Also if I were you I would up to this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103759 I know it's somewhat more but the double L2 cache will pay for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly March 23, 2007 Share dragonfly Member March 23, 2007 a gigabyte mb GA-M61P-S3, i want the firewire full atx for the ram slots.my only prob at this point is does it support xp 64? thats what I'll be using... actually it'll be a dual os xp 32 and xp 64 I use cubase for audio editing and gigastudio/atmosphere/stylus for music composition. so I need xp 32 for that. Aug I use audition, cubase makes my head hurt First program I ever used was Pro Tools at a studio... I got spoiled and lazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy March 23, 2007 Author Share auggybendoggy Member March 23, 2007 dark, whether its theology or DAW's you gotta always spoil my parade man!!! LOL! yea pro tools is HUGE! intimidating. Cube is all I need, it's easy and I don't care to cross platform. However if I buy the new version I'm up to re-learning at that point. I just lack the funds to up or cross grade. As for the more expensive chip preach endorsed...is it really worth the 80 bucks for the 2x1 l2 cache I think the chip I have selected is 2x512 l2 cache? is this truly worth it??? 80 bucks is alot at my wage per hr : ) Aug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly March 24, 2007 Share dragonfly Member March 24, 2007 Ha ha, spoil your parade!? I thought cubase was better than audition... Just a heck of a lot less user friendly. I'm not prostar like you with the gizmos and gadgets for recording I'd really like to hear some of your stuff sometime if you wouldnt mind. I'm finishing up a song of my own too that I could send you and you could give me some pointers. You know how it gets, where you listen to the tracks SO many times that you cant hear what it is in REALITY and only what you want it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy March 24, 2007 Author Share auggybendoggy Member March 24, 2007 dark, I'll have to dig up the cd's. I lost my only like 3 songs (orchestrations) and I WAS TICKED OFF!!! I'll see if I can put something together though. I'm really tied up as I'm readying up to launch my wed video co. it's a converted LLC and my time is CONSUMED but when I get a chance I'll go through my stash for the mp3's. I've got a few recordings right now on my hd of a singer/songwriter girl from victorville california and man does she sing horrible! her song is alright but bad vocals. I'll email you the link and ftp it up. So what about the 2x1mb l2 cache vs the 2x 512mb l2 cache? is it worth 80 bucks? Aug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly March 24, 2007 Share dragonfly Member March 24, 2007 Sweet dude, looking forward to it. I remember cujo telling me 1mb cache = 300mhz or something like that. He's more qualified to say for sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy March 24, 2007 Author Share auggybendoggy Member March 24, 2007 preach or cooj, is the 2x1mb l2 cache that much better than the 2x512 l2 cache? I'm real tight with money until my business is back up. If the diff is only noticable to the electron microscope then I don't care but if you tell me its a HUGE difference like a 20-30% increase then I'll do it. If its only like a 5% then I'll get the cheaper one Aug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroDamage March 24, 2007 Share ZeroDamage Member March 24, 2007 preach or cooj,is the 2x1mb l2 cache that much better than the 2x512 l2 cache? I'm real tight with money until my business is back up. If the diff is only noticable to the electron microscope then I don't care but if you tell me its a HUGE difference like a 20-30% increase then I'll do it. If its only like a 5% then I'll get the cheaper one Aug It mostly just depends on the application. Some games and programs like video or photo programs love the extra cache. Others do nothing or only see a 1~% difference. Due to CSS being so CPU intensive because of the physics, I recommend you grab the 2x1MB Cache chip. ********* If you really do want to go the 1mb cache route per core, then look at the Opteron 165 chip. It is socket 939 if you are going that route and even though it is only 1.8 Ghz, it comes with the premium heatpipe heatsink and it over clocks to 2.2-2.6 with ease. Mine is at 2.4 with all of my settings at stock. I take back what I said. Just go with the best processor you can afford that is dual core. It looks like most every cpu on the AM2 list of cpu's is only 2x512 unless they are 3 times as expensive with the 2x1MB cache chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy March 24, 2007 Author Share auggybendoggy Member March 24, 2007 0, it looks like preach is right then to spend the 80 bucks. It's for video editing. Aug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher March 24, 2007 Share Preacher Member March 24, 2007 <3 believe me it's worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy March 24, 2007 Author Share auggybendoggy Member March 24, 2007 preach, I sure appreciate it, I'll take you up on that advice and fork the 80.00 Thats the help I'm totally looking for. I trust you after like 3-4 years here so thanks. Thanks, Aug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy March 25, 2007 Author Share auggybendoggy Member March 25, 2007 guys, are all dr2800 Dual Channel? or single? Aug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher March 25, 2007 Share Preacher Member March 25, 2007 There is a few companies that have produced some single chanel only RAM like Pqi and A-data but it's harder to find than the duel. Most sticks of ram (if same make and model) will run fine in duel mode. Like I answered in your other post if Newegg sells them as a set (2x1gb or 2x512mb) they are duel chanel ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo March 26, 2007 Share Cujo Member March 26, 2007 for video editing the extra cache is worthless but for games it's about 10% performance advantage depending on the game. for 80 bucks it's a tough call but either way you'll be happy. aug, i just realized you're getting a am2 motherboard. why are you not getting a core 2 duo processor if you're buying a new mobo, cpu AND ram??? this whole time i thought you were keeping your ram from your p4 and just upgrading mobo and cpu to s939 amd. if you're doing an overhaul do it right and go core 2 now. you won't regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiler March 26, 2007 Share boiler Member March 26, 2007 aug, i just realized you're getting a am2 motherboard. why are you not getting a core 2 duo processor if you're buying a new mobo, cpu AND ram??? this whole time i thought you were keeping your ram from your p4 and just upgrading mobo and cpu to s939 amd. if you're doing an overhaul do it right and go core 2 now. you won't regret it. I just realized this myself, I didn't pay enough attention to the motherboard he posted. I agree, you really ought to consider a core 2 setup. Even the lower-end core 2's are great processors and have more bang for the buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher March 26, 2007 Share Preacher Member March 26, 2007 I've been an AMD fan for a long time (since k62 350 came out) so I can flow either way, but from what I understand the C2D by Intel is the top dog right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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