[VI]ROosTEr April 21, 2003 Share [VI]ROosTEr Member April 21, 2003 I think stepping is the increments you can overclock the fsb in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX April 21, 2003 Share NOFX Member April 21, 2003 GameVe is a bunch of gimps. I ordered the asus A7N8X and a case and power supply and paid like 25 bucks more for a good power supply, but my power supply didnt come. I called them and they told me it was in the package and never sent me another one. Im currently using 266DDR. fsb is supposed to be 133 on the 1800+. I kept the bus and ram in sync and got the fbs up to around 145Mhz with not any kinda special cooling except for 3 case fans and a dragon orb cooler. I think my ram is what was holding me back, so if you have DDR 333 you should be aight. Also you gotta watch versions of the +1800 you got, is it palimino or throughobred? My +1800 is locked and the mutliplier is unchangeable unless I want to mess with chip and a no. 2 pencil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL April 21, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member April 21, 2003 Actually, all CPUs (AMD Athlon XP or Intel P4) ship locked unless you are lucky and get one of the engineering CPUs (unlocked for testing but aren't supposed to be shipped). And to overclock all the Athlon XPs you need more than a pencil (like you could for the Durons) but not much more (except for the 2100+). You can buy the unlocking kits for about $16 right now and basically it follows the same principle as the pencil except you need to use some conductive silicon paint (part of the kit). Also, for the 2100+, I have seen that the only way to unlock it is to actually do some dremel work on the cpu. Also, the more you increase the multiplier, the more you have to be careful about the voltage and tweak that as well. As for the P4 CPUs, so far, I haven't seen anyone successfully unlock them but they also have more overhead free so OCing them by changing the FSB speed doesn't add a considerable amount of heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL April 23, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member April 23, 2003 Well, based on the link Playaa gave to verify the CPU, I seem to have a regular 1800+. I ain't too upset as I got more for my 2100+ then I paid for this and I can up to a 3000+ later without having to swap out mobo's now. I will let you know how it handle's having the fsb OC'ed on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 23, 2003 Share Slaphappy Member April 23, 2003 Oh well...ya I know your water cooling yours dweez but what do ya think would be safe to Overclock with that Volcano 7+? I know well really nothing about OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL April 23, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member April 23, 2003 The best procedure regardless of how you cool it is to OC it in small increments. Up it a bit, use it for a bit. If it is stable, bump it up a bit more. When it starts getting unstable, drop it back down a bit and you are good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 24, 2003 Share Slaphappy Member April 24, 2003 I only ask this next question because of my retartedness in the past with trying to OC video cards and dang near frying them......how much is a little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiZad April 24, 2003 Share RiZad Member April 24, 2003 (edited) ROosTEr,Apr 20 2003, 07:18 PM] I think stepping is the increments you can overclock the fsb in. Thats not what a stepping is at all... A stepping is a revision of the manufacturing process. There has been 4 different cores already for the Athlon XP series. First we had the Palimino(sp?) which was .18 micron , Then we had the Thoroughbred which was .13 Micron, Then the Thoroughbred-b which was nothing more than a redefined .13 micron core, then we have the Barton which once again is a redefined core with but this time with 512K cache. The new 1700+ and 1800+ overclock so well because they are now built on a process that is yeilding far greater speeds than those listed above. When they both came out they were Palimino core cpus, which in turn were .18 micron and had little headroom for overclocking. Now they use a core that has reached speeds of 2800+ ( Thoroughbred-B core). So a lowly chip like the 1800+ has plenty of headroom to work with. Nothing is garenteed when overclocking. MANY MANY things come into play. Just because it is a "downgraded 2600+" does mean it wasn't downgraded for a reason. Its called "bin sorting". I'm not at all saying that they are all bin sorted because what i have heard about the 1700+ JIUHB is that they overclock like mad. If u don't read up on how to overclcok then i would say u will be than likely upset when it won't do 2600+ at default voltage and your ram,pci,and agp are running funny because they are outta spec. Edited April 24, 2003 by RiZad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa April 24, 2003 Share Playaa Member April 24, 2003 so you didn't get the good stuff dw33z? I'm really sorry man.....that sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 24, 2003 Share Slaphappy Member April 24, 2003 heheh I got the same thing dweez got same board same process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL April 24, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member April 24, 2003 (edited) Nah, I ain't upset. I got the 1800+ JIUHB (Thoroughbred- core so I should do just fine. Edited April 24, 2003 by dwEEziL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VI]ROosTEr April 24, 2003 Share [VI]ROosTEr Member April 24, 2003 Thanx Riz, I wasn't sure about the stepping, I thought I read about it in my mobo manual, but I guess I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiZad April 24, 2003 Share RiZad Member April 24, 2003 u are thinking about 1Mhz increment fsb STEPPINGS. which means u can up the fsb 1Mhz at a time. Back in the day u only had preset speeds aka 100Mhz, 112Mhz, 133Mhz, 140Mhz, 150Mhz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VI]ROosTEr April 24, 2003 Share [VI]ROosTEr Member April 24, 2003 OK, I think that's what I was talking about. I know nothing about AMD's, other than they suck (actually, I'd say my next chip will be AMD), so I was referring to the FSB speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL April 24, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member April 24, 2003 Well you know what? YOU SUCK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VI]ROosTEr April 24, 2003 Share [VI]ROosTEr Member April 24, 2003 When did you get $1million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy April 24, 2003 Share Slaphappy Member April 24, 2003 Ok got mb and cpu today. It's only DDR ram...I don't have any DDR ram plus I don't have any heatsink for cpu till tomorow.....But this is all ok cuz a quick trip to the local computer place and Boom Stick of 512, 333 DDR ram and pos cheep heatsink to tide me over till tomorow. Yep I'm posting this from a XP 1800 and new mb and HOT DAMN MY GEFORCE IS RUNNING AT 4X WOOOOOOOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VI]ROosTEr April 25, 2003 Share [VI]ROosTEr Member April 25, 2003 HAHAHAHA....FINALLY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL May 2, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member May 2, 2003 Ok, just OC'ed the CPU from the stock 1.53GHz to 1.62GHz by OC'ing the fsb from 133 to 140. I originally bumped it up from 133 to 134 and went from 1.53 to 1.55...ok, I am too impatient so I did it again with this bigger jump. I will run it like this for a day or so to look for instability and if not, I will start incrementing it again in 1-2 step jumps. Currently, the CPU temp is the same as it was before. Also, I have PC3500 RAM so my RAM will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy May 2, 2003 Share Slaphappy Member May 2, 2003 dweez how do you monitor the temp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL May 2, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member May 2, 2003 The "heatsink" for my cpu (it is the water-cooled connector) has a temp sensor that goes right between it and the cpu and displays on the case. I also use Motherboard Monitor which can get the readings from your motherboard sensors once you have MBM configured properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX May 2, 2003 Share NOFX Member May 2, 2003 you monitor the temp by installing the utility that came with your mobo. There should be a program on the motherboard disc that will show you voltage, fan speeds, mobo and cpu temps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy May 3, 2003 Share Slaphappy Member May 3, 2003 ok i got the monitor that came with my board...it's oc some...now how hot is too hot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL May 3, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member May 3, 2003 Ok, I am extremely happy now. I have the FSB set to 150MHz and I am now running at 1.73GHz. I have run 3dMark2k3 to give it a bit of a stress test and I have noticed no significant heat changes (and scored a 4304 to boot ). Slappy, I have looked around but can not find a good (and credible) article that gives the average CPU temperatures for different processors. When I was running my CPU with the Thermaltake Dragon ORB3, my average temperature was around 45 degrees celcius, during peak the temp could hit 60 degrees. The AMD's are supposed to be able to function normally up to 70-80 degrees Celcius but I wouldn't want to let them get that hot. Mine (with the Koolance water-cooling) has been staying constant around 30-32 degrees Celcius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaphappy May 3, 2003 Share Slaphappy Member May 3, 2003 dang it what is the C i know nothing of then...where's my caculater i need F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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