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9 Out Of 10 Americans Are Completely Wrong About This Mind-Blowing Fact

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I love that click bait title. "9 out of 10 Americans are wrong about THIS MIND BLOWING FACT!" It might as well have been, "Justin Bieber does WHAT?" or "Man finds WHAT inside his bathroom?". Stupid internet.

 

I highly doubt 9 out of 10 Americans are blind to the ridiculous amount of money corporate CEOs make. They might not know the exact numbers, but they know it's hell of a lot more than they should be making.

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really? I thought it is obvious that the salary distribution is not linear but increase exponentially.

 

Second, I am going off topic, but ideal wealth distribution will never work. Think about it, if people whose highest education level is high school vs a college graduates both side get jobs and their salaries are all within a small range, then the economy will be all mess up. The reason why a lot of products in the market is cheap is because more than 40% of workers in america are paid minimal-wages. Not that I am against the idea of helping the poor but in reality, this will never work.

 

Increasing minimal-wage will only lead to an increase the price of product or they would look into other countries to import their goods.

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Apparently some people I work with were blind to the fact of how much our CEO makes. Because I recently got an email to a website wanting to unionize our non-salary workers. I do NOT want to be part of a union, thanks anyway. I think there may be a vote coming not far in the future. -_-

You're supposed to unionize so you can take advantage of the company you work for. Like GM paying people on the assembly line ~$25/hr to install door handles. :)

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Apparently some people I work with were blind to the fact of how much our CEO makes. Because I recently got an email to a website wanting to unionize our non-salary workers. I do NOT want to be part of a union, thanks anyway. I think there may be a vote coming not far in the future. -_-

You're a victim of past bad reputation of labor unions and propaganda in nowadays. Things changed, I have worked in a past for a union and I still have strong connections with them. Few of my friends are union workers, such as UPS. It's not what it's been, things changed. Don't get fooled by corporate lobbyism. Learn what they offer, think if conditions are good, decide for yourself. If you have questions, send me a message.
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Whenever I hear wealth "distribution" I get a bit nervous. The truth is that the rich are rich and the poor are poor for a reason. Maybe the reasons aren't all great, but it tends to go this way. The poor focus their children on survival instincts and the rich focus on education and climbing the social ladder. If you teach your kids things like "I never had a chance to get out of poverty" or "the only way to get out is if someone gives it to you" then you have crippled them. Many parents tell their kids "you can be anything when you grow up" but they really don't believe it themselves. The idea isn't that if fortune finds you that you might get lucky, the true American dream is that if you are willing to fight through fatigue, bureaucracy, other's preconceptions of you and your family, you can have the opportunity to do whatever you want through hard work and educating yourself.

 

I recently was speaking to a Chinese lady who seems to truly understand the "American Dream". She said that in the city where she was from that hard work could help you earn respect, but there was no opportunity to ever rise above your family's "place". In America you have the chance to be your full potential in all ways. She isn't buying lottery tickets or asking someone else to help. She works 16 hours a day in a restaurant. Her husband does the same across town at their 2nd location and they have sent all of their kids to top tier Ivy League schools. She never mentioned "fair" or "balance" or anything else except that her dedicated, hard work had earned her a lovely home, a comfortable financial future for retirement, security for her family through the education of her children and that she didn't want anyone taking it away from her.

 

I understand the concept of fair. It's taught as a basic way to be in our first preschool classes. If there are 2 kids and one toy they must both share it for equal time. This is as far from reality as you can get though because the toy goes to the one willing to fight hardest for it. No one should be looking to tax anyone in a way that is unequal. This is simply a penalty for achieving your goals through education, hard work and intelligence. I have and always will be a proponent for a flat sales tax on all goods, no tax on foods, medical or owned property. This means that no one can take away what you bought and paid for regardless of your future hardships. I know of 2 ladies that have lost their homes because of back taxes that they just could not afford. Both were homes that had been paid off for many years. You want to look into fair lets talk about that and other unfair taxes.

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no tax on foods, medical or owned property. This means that no one can take away what you bought and paid for regardless of your future hardships.

 

amen brother

 

I would agree with this whole heartedly.

 

 

Ah yes, the good old "as long as i'm fine, i don't care what happens to the rest of the world"

 

Yeah, just as the political forum, i'm distancing myself of this conversation.

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no tax on foods, medical or owned property. This means that no one can take away what you bought and paid for regardless of your future hardships.

 

amen brother

 

I would agree with this whole heartedly.

 

 

Ah yes, the good old "as long as i'm fine, i don't care what happens to the rest of the world"

 

Yeah, just as the political forum, i'm distancing myself of this conversation.

 

Could you please explain the relationship between what you said and what Preacher said? How is always having a shelter over your head without worrying about foreclosure or being able to afford food and medicine without it being heavily taxed the same as saying, "As long as I'm fine, I don't care what happens to the rest of the world"?

 

The people in foreclosure or the ones that can't afford to eat dinner are the ones MORE likely to not care what happens to the rest of the world, and with good reason.

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no tax on foods, medical or owned property. This means that no one can take away what you bought and paid for regardless of your future hardships.

 

amen brother

 

I would agree with this whole heartedly.

 

 

Ah yes, the good old "as long as i'm fine, i don't care what happens to the rest of the world"

 

Yeah, just as the political forum, i'm distancing myself of this conversation.

 

Could you please explain the relationship between what you said and what Preacher said? How is always having a shelter over your head without worrying about foreclosure or being able to afford food and medicine without it being heavily taxed the same as saying, "As long as I'm fine, I don't care what happens to the rest of the world"?

 

The people in foreclosure or the ones that can't afford to eat dinner are the ones MORE likely to not care what happens to the rest of the world, and with good reason.

 

 

 

You're mostly likely working about lower and worker class since worker class is literally almost gone comparing to old days in Socialism and yes, also in US. If you look every charts, richer got even more richer. Plain and simple.

 

And even if people barely make even over month, some or most of them (pick one) don't care about for those who are in even bigger debts, because human logic goes : If that rich, filthy bastard or politics won't care about lower class, why I should? I have problems too, while rich people don't have any.

 

Guess people will still follow and listen overly paid congressmen and politicans, but don't have single benefits from it, except those at sink.

 

 

 

P.S.: I can't see any no tax logic in food, property and medical one. So, those who are already overly rich, won't have to pay normal or additional tax? And US citizen complain why their health care and tax system isn't stable? Oh man.

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Well my thoughts are simple, work hard, be kind to those around you and you should be able to keep what you earn. This entitlement crap is killing the entire world. Noone owes you anything except the opportunity to work hard and find it for yourself.

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no tax on foods, medical or owned property. This means that no one can take away what you bought and paid for regardless of your future hardships.

 

amen brother

 

I would agree with this whole heartedly.

 

 

Ah yes, the good old "as long as i'm fine, i don't care what happens to the rest of the world"

 

Yeah, just as the political forum, i'm distancing myself of this conversation.

 

Could you please explain the relationship between what you said and what Preacher said? How is always having a shelter over your head without worrying about foreclosure or being able to afford food and medicine without it being heavily taxed the same as saying, "As long as I'm fine, I don't care what happens to the rest of the world"?

 

The people in foreclosure or the ones that can't afford to eat dinner are the ones MORE likely to not care what happens to the rest of the world, and with good reason.

 

 

 

You're mostly likely working about lower and worker class since worker class is literally almost gone comparing to old days in Socialism and yes, also in US. If you look every charts, richer got even more richer. Plain and simple.

 

And even if people barely make even over month, some or most of them (pick one) don't care about for those who are in even bigger debts, because human logic goes : If that rich, filthy bastard or politics won't care about lower class, why I should? I have problems too, while rich people don't have any.

 

Guess people will still follow and listen overly paid congressmen and politicans, but don't have single benefits from it, except those at sink.

 

 

 

P.S.: I can't see any no tax logic in food, property and medical one. So, those who are already overly rich, won't have to pay normal or additional tax? And US citizen complain why their health care and tax system isn't stable? Oh man.

 

If they're "overly rich" I doubt paying or not paying taxes on food, medicine, or their property will make much difference to their bank accounts. Those who ARE having trouble or working near minimum wage to support a family will benefit much more than the overly rich.

 

If for some reason the overly rich lose everything and their house goes into foreclosure I'm not going to laugh in their face and say, "That's what you get!". I think they would deserve the same leniency of no food, medicine, or property tax as everyone else.

 

While I think it's ridiculous the amount of money some people make, I'm not standing outside their mansions so I can point and laugh at them if they lose it all. The rich are rich, that's great. I want to look at the opposite side of the spectrum. While I don't think the government should be giving them handouts I think the government can be more lenient when it comes to taxing the things they should rightfully own.

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no tax on foods, medical or owned property. This means that no one can take away what you bought and paid for regardless of your future hardships.

 

amen brother

 

I would agree with this whole heartedly.

 

 

Ah yes, the good old "as long as i'm fine, i don't care what happens to the rest of the world"

 

Yeah, just as the political forum, i'm distancing myself of this conversation.

 

Could you please explain the relationship between what you said and what Preacher said? How is always having a shelter over your head without worrying about foreclosure or being able to afford food and medicine without it being heavily taxed the same as saying, "As long as I'm fine, I don't care what happens to the rest of the world"?

 

The people in foreclosure or the ones that can't afford to eat dinner are the ones MORE likely to not care what happens to the rest of the world, and with good reason.

 

 

 

You're mostly likely working about lower and worker class since worker class is literally almost gone comparing to old days in Socialism and yes, also in US. If you look every charts, richer got even more richer. Plain and simple.

 

And even if people barely make even over month, some or most of them (pick one) don't care about for those who are in even bigger debts, because human logic goes : If that rich, filthy bastard or politics won't care about lower class, why I should? I have problems too, while rich people don't have any.

 

Guess people will still follow and listen overly paid congressmen and politicans, but don't have single benefits from it, except those at sink.

 

 

 

P.S.: I can't see any no tax logic in food, property and medical one. So, those who are already overly rich, won't have to pay normal or additional tax? And US citizen complain why their health care and tax system isn't stable? Oh man.

 

If they're "overly rich" I doubt paying or not paying taxes on food, medicine, or their property will make much difference to their bank accounts. Those who ARE having trouble or working near minimum wage to support a family will benefit much more than the overly rich.

 

If for some reason the overly rich lose everything and their house goes into foreclosure I'm not going to laugh in their face and say, "That's what you get!". I think they would deserve the same leniency of no food, medicine, or property tax as everyone else.

 

While I think it's ridiculous the amount of money some people make, I'm not standing outside their mansions so I can point and laugh at them if they lose it all. The rich are rich, that's great. I want to look at the opposite side of the spectrum. While I don't think the government should be giving them handouts I think the government can be more lenient when it comes to taxing the things they should rightfully own.

 

 

That's how I think it should be. Example: my car is paid off in full, if I come on hard times and can't afford to insure it or something nobody comes along and physically takes it away, I still technically own the vehicle. Maybe my thought process is over simplistic but housing should be the same.

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They can come and take the car if you fail to pay personal property taxes.

One of the things I can not fit in my mind: it's YOURS, but somehow it's not, because you live on the land which is run by some greedy folks, and there is no way you can change it, since everywhere you go is pretty much the same.

It's like you must pay, cuz you were born on this planet.

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no tax on foods, medical or owned property. This means that no one can take away what you bought and paid for regardless of your future hardships.

 

amen brother

 

I would agree with this whole heartedly.

 

 

Ah yes, the good old "as long as i'm fine, i don't care what happens to the rest of the world"

 

Yeah, just as the political forum, i'm distancing myself of this conversation.

 

Could you please explain the relationship between what you said and what Preacher said? How is always having a shelter over your head without worrying about foreclosure or being able to afford food and medicine without it being heavily taxed the same as saying, "As long as I'm fine, I don't care what happens to the rest of the world"?

 

The people in foreclosure or the ones that can't afford to eat dinner are the ones MORE likely to not care what happens to the rest of the world, and with good reason.

 

 

Because people get taxed on their income. If you have no income, you shouldn't have to pay a lot of taxes. That's probably not how it is, but i just disagree that the solution to that is to get rid of taxes all together.

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Unfortunately this is not true in many cases. From an income standpoint, you may have to pay a flat tax, more importantly, you still have to pay taxes on goods and services so rather than acquire necessary things (and this is fairly well documented for healthcare) you forego them because you do not have the funds.

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Because people get taxed on their income. If you have no income, you shouldn't have to pay a lot of taxes. That's probably not how it is, but i just disagree that the solution to that is to get rid of taxes all together.

 

No one is saying get rid of all taxes. What I am saying is that you place a set tax on ALL purchases. Then eliminate taxing income, food, medicine, owned property etc. Most people don't even understand how much they are taxes. You lose 30% or more of your paycheck to taxes/govt. programs then pay 8% or more in sales tax on your purchases, then they tax you annually for the purchases you made and tax you on your savings as well. If you per-purchase your cemetery plot they even tax that every year. If the govt. wasn't so ridiculously stupid when it comes to expenditures I would say a lot less, but when the invest in all sorts of stuff that makes no sense. Spend billions on researching cow farts and the like. Pay farmers to not farm. Spend billions on foreign aid to countries that hate us and have even vowed to destroy us. All while Americans lost their homes and missed meals here at home.

 

Something needs to be done to right a system so complicated that no one person grasps the entirety of our tax system and budget requirements.

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