CowboyFromHell`X January 16, 2004 Share CowboyFromHell`X Member January 16, 2004 (edited) I was reading Dilbert and after reading this it kinda sounds sensible. Okay, complex things are made up of many simple things. Like.. cells making animals and humans, elements to make explosives, etc.. So what if it's true. What if a God, "Jesus", would be in the future and not the past. What if God won't be made until enough simple things can make him? This may sound stupid but it's worth thinking about. Edited January 16, 2004 by CowboyFromHell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa January 16, 2004 Share Playaa Member January 16, 2004 except that God is outside of time... that's something people tend to forget...God made nature and all of our laws of science...so he made time, motion, matter...all of it...therefore he's above and outside of it...that being said...alot of what people don't get can easily be explained knowing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyFromHell`X January 17, 2004 Author Share CowboyFromHell`X Member January 17, 2004 I said I didn't know anything about it. It was just something I read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy January 17, 2004 Share auggybendoggy Member January 17, 2004 I find the eternal part hard to understand. I don't think its even fair to say God is outside of time. That still puts God is a spatial and sequential place. I've wondered about cowboys statement. Like, If God has no beginning then how many creations does he have....obvious answer is "illegal operation". So there are billions over billions over trillions and never ending number of creations? I tend to think we humans are so egocentric. I've been told there will be no other creations since it's not in the scripture. Way too many people go on the bible does not say rather than what it does say..like pre tribulationists then again now that i re-read his post I'm not sure I'm following cowboy at all haahahahahaa anyhow what does this mean What if God won't be made until enough simple things can make him? This may sound stupid but it's worth thinking about I don't think i fillow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL January 17, 2004 Share dwEEziL Member January 17, 2004 I think he is asking if it is possible that God is the overall eventual outcome of evolution. It wasn't the words he used but that is the idea I got from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchtower January 18, 2004 Share Watchtower Member January 18, 2004 Or maybe God isn't made yet I think is what cowboy is saying.. Kinda like let the world freak out for a few thousand years and then Bam, God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyFromHell`X January 18, 2004 Author Share CowboyFromHell`X Member January 18, 2004 (edited) I think I may email Scott Adams and let him explain for me. Because his idea (making fun of religion though) was that god isn't created yet because "not enough people are connected to the internet yet." I just wanted to know if anyone thought that God was our future. Edited January 18, 2004 by CowboyFromHell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy January 18, 2004 Share auggybendoggy Member January 18, 2004 sounds like smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble .gc January 18, 2004 Share Trouble .gc Member January 18, 2004 the bible does say that the "messiah," the "savior," the "lord" will come again. in a prayer we say in church it says "...He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead." i guess mabe how i take it is..when i die, i think i will meet God, and i will stand before him and be judged. does that make sense? am i being to vague? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL January 18, 2004 Share dwEEziL Member January 18, 2004 No, that's what the Bible says. When Jesus comes again, the "wheat" will be separated from the "chaff". The non-believers will be judged and thrown into the lake of fire while the believers will be made accountable for their life. Judged, if you will, but not judged worthy enough for salvation but rather judged and rewarded based on our life's work. Now what this judgement is for is a matter of debate. Some say it is for the amount of treasure rewarded (the Bible speaks of us storing up our treasure in heaven) but others, like my old teacher, thinks we will be judged to determine the amount of responsibility placed on us in the New Jerusalem. I haven't made a decision on what it means yet but I know that I will one day find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble .gc January 18, 2004 Share Trouble .gc Member January 18, 2004 No, that's what the Bible says. i said, thats what the bible says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL January 18, 2004 Share dwEEziL Member January 18, 2004 I know, I was reaffirming your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy January 19, 2004 Share auggybendoggy Member January 19, 2004 I agree. Bible's clear about God coming back. Aint no two ways about it. like in the days of noah people will be doing their thing then suddenly the end will come upon em. people out here on the west coast will be working and partying. People on the east coast will probably be drunk and people in the midwest will be at wal-mart On the serious side. whats this thread about anyhow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy January 19, 2004 Share auggybendoggy Member January 19, 2004 p.s. that last post was for knock...hee hee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchtower January 19, 2004 Share Watchtower Member January 19, 2004 But I thought God also said that when he made the flood, that was the last time he was going to destroy the life on the planet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL January 19, 2004 Share dwEEziL Member January 19, 2004 No, he said that was the last time he would destroy life on earth via water. The next time will be by fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchtower January 19, 2004 Share Watchtower Member January 19, 2004 Ahhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble .gc January 20, 2004 Share Trouble .gc Member January 20, 2004 p.s. that last post was for knock...hee hee don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy January 21, 2004 Share auggybendoggy Member January 21, 2004 sorry knock it was about having ugly kids and gettign em jobs at walmart....from the wonderland posts. Basically (as a californian) I hold the view that all non-californians hang out at walmart. OK! OK! I'm just kidding everyone. Dang!... sorry to leave you confused. On the "FOR REALS" side of things I totally believe God will be back. I just think that we don't understand the book of revelation and lots of prophetic scripture. I think I'm off on a tangent...I think this thread started with future God which I still don't know what the original post meant... Anyone? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyFromHell`X January 21, 2004 Author Share CowboyFromHell`X Member January 21, 2004 (edited) How hard can it be to understand what I'm saying? Here, I'll draw this out nice and slowly for you. Ready? 1: Dogbert stated that all complex things start from simple things. Like cells and things combining to make animals and whatnot. 2: Dogbert has the idea that when all the people are connected to the internet God will form. 3: Dilbert makes fun of him. Now I just took the idea that maybe there will be a god, but he/she/it never existed yet. Understand now? Edited January 21, 2004 by CowboyFromHell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowbar January 21, 2004 Share Crowbar Member January 21, 2004 it's an interesting thought cowboy, but it doesn't hold water. what good is a god that is dependent on a sequence of things happening to "form" him? on that note, what is the worth of a god that has to be formed? I, for one, would not worship any god that is dependent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy January 22, 2004 Share auggybendoggy Member January 22, 2004 sorry cowboy I'm just not much of a philosopher. I would think that if everyone is connected to the internet you would not have "GOD" but rather "LAG" If everyone were connected why would this form "god" I see no relationship to sub-atomic to atomic to molecular - to cellular to organic or tissue to organism. I see a bunch of people communicating via the internet......again I see LAG. I just dont see the cats perspective. so in dilberts mind he has an idea that God is made up of many people or all people? Auggybendoggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL January 22, 2004 Share dwEEziL Member January 22, 2004 I think you guys are trying to make too much of a connection here. I think the point is, as things become more complex (which we all know based on the first two laws of thermodynamics, that this is NOT true) and more and more people connect to the internet, a bigger "brain trust" if you will is formed. I see where Dilbert (or rather Dogbert) is going with this, I just think fundamentally it is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jane January 27, 2004 Share jane Member January 27, 2004 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VI]ROosTEr February 5, 2004 Share [VI]ROosTEr Member February 5, 2004 (edited) What about putting it in a "tower of Babylon" context? Edited February 5, 2004 by [VI]ROosTEr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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