soul .gc November 9, 2005 Share soul .gc Member November 9, 2005 Alright - I am looking for advice on what to get for some new parts - Here are my limitations. It must be AGP since I just recently bought a 9800XT AGP vid card. I have a P4 2.6Ghz now with a decent MB but I am having memory conflict problems and it has finally driven me over the edge so I am looking to go AMD. What MB is recommended that has AGP and is good? What processor speed should I go? Is it possible to do a 64bit system and still retain AGP? Or should I just sell the card and get an X800 or 7series PCI-E card? Also - Memory confuses me nowadays. What is the differnece between PC3200/2700/etc...? Does it matter? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zerodamage November 9, 2005 Share Guest zerodamage Guests November 9, 2005 Oh boy are you in luck. I saw this today on Newegg. $205 for Athlon 64 3700 754-pin with free mobo from Epox. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...cessors&CMP=OTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo November 9, 2005 Share Cujo Member November 9, 2005 i would go with a dfi or msi s939 nf3 board and a 3200+. zero's deal is good but it's that cheap for stock clearing of old tech. with a 939 cpu you have a bit more of an upgrade path. it's up to you though. if you go with zero's deal and then just overhaul the whole thing down the road it's a good idea. this all depends on your ram though. what do you currently have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul .gc November 9, 2005 Author Share soul .gc Member November 9, 2005 1gb of PC2700 2x512. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul .gc November 9, 2005 Author Share soul .gc Member November 9, 2005 ZD - That appears to be a good deal from everything I can see. What would be the benefit of 939 over 754? I will probably move to a better video card in 2 years or less and would go to PCI-Express. Is it possible to get a board with AGP and PCI-E? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman November 9, 2005 Share Batman Member November 9, 2005 Wow thats a good deal, thats the clawhammer with 1meg of L2 cache.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer November 9, 2005 Share wayfarer Member November 9, 2005 ZD - That appears to be a good deal from everything I can see. What would be the benefit of 939 over 754? I will probably move to a better video card in 2 years or less and would go to PCI-Express. Is it possible to get a board with AGP and PCI-E? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Soul, that is a good deal if your going to upgrade again in 1-2 years anyway. I have a 754 pin AMD 3400+ & although I would sometimes like a little faster, mine is still the fastest computer of everyone I know. (offline that is.) 754 is on its way out, but so is 939 In a couple of years there will be even better stuff out there. But that is ALWAYS going to be true. 9800 XT is still a fairly good card. If you want to extend its life & not pay too much money I would go for ZD's deal & don't look back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman November 9, 2005 Share Batman Member November 9, 2005 Ive added the cpu and epox mobo to my cart and im sitting here with my mouse on the place order button.. And im thinkin about xmas coming up, and how the wife wants a laptop.. I dont know what to do!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman November 9, 2005 Share Batman Member November 9, 2005 Oh Soul, the only difference is 400mhz fsb.. Most 939's have a 2000fsb and the 754's have 1600fsb.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX November 9, 2005 Share NOFX Member November 9, 2005 yes batman i was gettin ready to say that, I would buy it now, but.. I dont wanna buy behind the curve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman November 9, 2005 Share Batman Member November 9, 2005 (edited) Yeah I havent hit the purchase button yet.. Soul im in the same boat your in, I just got a x800pro agp card and need a new cpu/mobo.. Edited November 9, 2005 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul .gc November 9, 2005 Author Share soul .gc Member November 9, 2005 I cannot decide!! gah haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul .gc November 9, 2005 Author Share soul .gc Member November 9, 2005 Is it better to go with a 1GB stick of RAM or 2x512? Looking at: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820145505 Also - Let's say you had $500-600 - what would be the recommendations for: MB CPU RAM (1gb min) SATA Hard Drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWarrior November 9, 2005 Share HWarrior Member November 9, 2005 (edited) ZD - That appears to be a good deal from everything I can see. What would be the benefit of 939 over 754? I will probably move to a better video card in 2 years or less and would go to PCI-Express. Is it possible to get a board with AGP and PCI-E? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is an ASRock board with AGP/PCI Express 16. ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Don't have any experience with the board myself but a 939 with AGP/PCI Express 16 & SATA2 for $71 shipped is not bad. 147 newegg reviews in 2 months. Might wanna read through those and do a little forum hopping to familiarize yourself with the board. Update: Tom's Hardware Guide: ASRock 939Dual-SATA2: With AGP and PCIe Edited November 9, 2005 by HWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher November 9, 2005 Share Preacher Member November 9, 2005 The performance difference between socket 754 and 939 are really very small. You might get a higher 3D Mark score but in your day to day usage it won't matter at all. I will say that I'm aware of Acid Flux wanting to sell his 754 3400 CPU for around $100. Also you can get a nice little barebone set-up for $113 here : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16856110032 I noticed it includes PCI Express as well as AGP. Same price range there but if you have a good case already I suggest this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813123225 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819103470 That CPU is for the mobile set-up so it uses less voltage and has less heat. Hope you get a dandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWarrior November 9, 2005 Share HWarrior Member November 9, 2005 Also you can get a nice little barebone set-up for $113 here : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16856110032 I noticed it includes PCI Express as well as AGP. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The barebone has a PCI Express x1 slot not PCI Express x16 slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul .gc November 9, 2005 Author Share soul .gc Member November 9, 2005 Here is what I am looking at right now: 1 - Seagate Barracuda 80GB SATA - $57.50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822148040 1 - Corsair 1GB PC3200 RAM - $91.25 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820145505 1 - Athlon 64 3700+ Clawhammer 800Mhz FSB - $205.00 http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?...N82E16819103461 1 - EPoX Nforce3 MB - Free with above CPU http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?...N82E16813123225 1 - 19"LCD Monitor - $239.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16824160147 Will this be a decent setup? Sorry for all the questions - I used to be good at this stuff but as it changes I became a noob again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer November 9, 2005 Share wayfarer Member November 9, 2005 1 - Athlon 64 3700+ Clawhammer 800Mhz FSB - $205.00http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?...N82E16819103461 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can someone tell me why this only has a 800mhz system bus as opposed to the standard 1600mhz for a 754 pin slot? 1 - 19"LCD Monitor - $239.00http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16824160147 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Soul I just picked up this. It's a little more expensive but it's worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman November 9, 2005 Share Batman Member November 9, 2005 Soul, that epox mobo doesnt do dual channel for the memory.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX November 9, 2005 Share NOFX Member November 9, 2005 1 - Athlon 64 3700+ Clawhammer 800Mhz FSB - $205.00http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?...N82E16819103461 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can someone tell me why this only has a 800mhz system bus as opposed to the standard 1600mhz for a 754 pin slot? its the same man, kind of like DDR ram. 1Ghz is really a 2000Mhz fsb also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul .gc November 9, 2005 Author Share soul .gc Member November 9, 2005 That is not dual-channel memory though right? It does not say it is at least. Wayfarer - what makes it a better monitor? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX November 9, 2005 Share NOFX Member November 9, 2005 8ms vs. 12ms. but your on a 600 budget and with the hardware your buying. I would spend another 100 on that before I would get a monitor with 4ms less latency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman November 9, 2005 Share Batman Member November 9, 2005 Oh your right Soul.. I dont know why I thought you were getting dual channel memory.. Well after thinkin about it, the memory would work but it wouldnt run in dual channel mode.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman November 9, 2005 Share Batman Member November 9, 2005 Anyone know how long this free mobo deal is?? ZD do you know?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Flux November 9, 2005 Share Acid-Flux Member November 9, 2005 ^^ They usually last only a few days. Newegg is always changing up their deals. My sugestion to you is email or even phone them and ask. esp if you want it and would "order it next week" then find out it's not on sale. when I bought my parts, 1 of them wasnt even in stock anymore and 2 of the others their rebates were gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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