Preacher January 24, 2011 Share Preacher Member January 24, 2011 He has a $1000 budget You will never get the quality from a premade build that you get from doing it yourself. Plus to get a decent gaming system for $1000 would be very hard to find. I could not find anything "up to date" for that price. Here's one with less RAM, Less Hard Drive, Less CPU, no blue ray, no external drive but does come with windows 7 already installed. Here is what I came up with: Case Power supply Motherboard CPU RAM Hard Drive DVD R/W Drive Blue Ray Drive Video Card 3X Fans The power Supply comes with a free SATA 2.5" Enclosure so here is a hard drive for it: External Hard drive The total for this system is: $993.51with $20 in Mail in Rebates If you also need a new copy of Windows you could ditch the portable Hard drive and the blue ray player, but this is a very nice and fast PC for the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simkiller January 24, 2011 Share simkiller Member January 24, 2011 Hey preach thanks for the response. I will need to buy a copy of Windows 7. My budget for the computer is not fixed. I get my W2 at the end of this month so I'll know what I can spend then. Can I get back with you in a couple weeks and maybe have you do this again with a more exact amount? Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher January 24, 2011 Author Share Preacher Member January 24, 2011 If you know someone with a .edu email address you can get Windows 7 pro for $65 http://www.microsoft.com/student/en/us/windows/buynow/default.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz.e.rus January 25, 2011 Share Laz.e.rus Member January 25, 2011 sim...either you have ignored my steam friend request for about 200 days, or I REALLY need to cancel it.... just sayin..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooDooPC January 25, 2011 Share VooDooPC Member January 25, 2011 sim...either you have ignored my steam friend request for about 200 days, or I REALLY need to cancel it.... just sayin..... Way to call him out on that. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooDooPC January 25, 2011 Share VooDooPC Member January 25, 2011 (edited) Hard-Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Video Card (EVGA has a life-time warranty): EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Case (Stolen from Preacher): HEC Blitz Black Steel Edition ATX Mid Tower Computer Chassis Gaming Case w/ Front Blue LED 120mm Fan & Top 120mm Fan DVD Burner: LITE-ON Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache IDE 22X DVD Writer CPU (Sandy Bridge, Intel's Newest): Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K PSU: CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 EVO LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PGD38G1333ELK Total: $1,022.92 after $30 Mail-in rebates. Sorry, you can't afford a Bluray drive. Edit: Replaced GTX 470 with GTX 560. Edited January 26, 2011 by VooDooPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flitterkill January 25, 2011 Share Flitterkill GC Board Member January 25, 2011 I'd also suggest being patient. If you give your self 45 days to work on getting the parts you'd be surprised how much you can save via sales, specials and rebates at various places (NewEgg included). Also, remember that shipping counts in your final costs as well. If you hustle, you can do very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simkiller January 26, 2011 Share simkiller Member January 26, 2011 So which one is the better gaming rig Preacher's or Voodoo's? Laz why you gotta call me out like that? will start up steam just for u..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooDooPC January 26, 2011 Share VooDooPC Member January 26, 2011 Preacher built an ATI - AMD system. I built an Intel - Nvidia system. The i5 - 2500K is a bit faster than the Phenom 1075T, but of course, more expensive. Nvidia just released the GTX 560 which is on par with the ATI 6950, it can be behind and ahead, depending on the test. 6950 slightly out performs the GTX 560, but is $50 cheaper. In my mind, having a better processor is better than having a better video card if you have to choose. You will always be using your CPU, but only really using your video card in games. Mine is also $70 over budget before rebates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher January 26, 2011 Author Share Preacher Member January 26, 2011 mine also include a six core CPU rather than a 4 core. While that will not improve older stuffs it is more future resilient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simkiller January 26, 2011 Share simkiller Member January 26, 2011 Will I notice a difference in gaming if i was playing the same game on both of those pc's side by side? Also is one more upgradable than the other? Would you guys recommend a sound card? Are there problems associated with amd vs. intel? Is one easier to put together than the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooDooPC January 26, 2011 Share VooDooPC Member January 26, 2011 mine also include a six core CPU rather than a 4 core. While that will not improve older stuffs it is more future resilient. That's true, but even in Sandra 2011 and PCMark, which takes into account all cores, the Intel four cores with eight threads is faster than the six core AMD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooDooPC January 27, 2011 Share VooDooPC Member January 27, 2011 Will I notice a difference in gaming if i was playing the same game on both of those pc's side by side? Also is one more upgradable than the other? Would you guys recommend a sound card? Are there problems associated with amd vs. intel? Is one easier to put together than the other? I'm not exactly sure how much of a difference there will be gaming. Both computers are kind of equal in what their brands offer. The video cards go back and forth between games. The Intel processor is quite a bit faster than the AMD processor, though with the extra money I spent over Preacher's, you probably could step up to the faster AMD processor. The Intel processor also came out this month, so the 1155 socket it needs is brand new, which means more processor are bound to come out for it. The AMD processor uses AM3 and they will probably come out with the AM3+ sometime in the next few months. AM3 processors work on AM3+ but AM3+ processors won't work on AM3. I tried to look for the newest stuff possible, the AMD and ATI stuff isn't old, but since Intel and Nvidia stuff is brand new (The GTX 560 came out earlier this week), it's slightly better, this of course will be reversed in a few months when AMD releases new CPUs and Video cards. You could upgrade the processor in Preacher's for $60 more and get the 1100T, which closes the gap between the i5-2500K. It would probably come out to a similar price as mine. It really comes down to the brands you prefer I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher January 27, 2011 Author Share Preacher Member January 27, 2011 My suggestion is to ask yourself "Exactly what do I plan to do with this over the next # years?" then decide what features you must have (blueray, video encoding, sound recording, gaming etc) and then pick the best stuff for your budget. If all you plan to do is play CS:S then you already kick my butt with a lower end PC lol. If you plan to just game I suggest you go with the i7 or at min. the i5 that Voodoo suggested. Personally I would probably go AMD right now as six core programs are slotted for the future and try to get a Bluray drive in it to future proof the next series in gaming. And max the RAM if you can, you can NEVER have too much RAM. The video card in Voodoo's suggestion is no better or worse on average than the one I put up thee, but look at the benchmarks of different sites and make sure the games you play are games that perform well on the card you choose. Most of all though you can build a decent system without breaking the bank. Personally I'm still using a socket 775 9650 Quad core Extreme with a GTX 260 and 8gb RAM and have yet to be slowed by anything out there on max settings. With that in mind you should understand that hardware always progresses faster than software. My nephew still plays using an old AMD 4400+ with 4gb RAM and an ATI 4970 and he can play anything out there (that video card is still pretty up to date though). Like I said decide what you have to have then get it the cheapest way possible. Don't forget you can save a few hundred by reusing your old case,power supply, DVD drives and hard drives. But then who wants to neglect having that extra PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooDooPC January 27, 2011 Share VooDooPC Member January 27, 2011 I bought a Bluray drive when I built my computer in early 2009, having no TV or PS3 at the time, it's been awesome. If you like TV shows or movies at all I would definitely try to get one if you can squeeze it in. And like Preacher said, if they ever start releasing PC games on Blurays, you'll be all set. I tried to pick brands I like, I've never been disappointed by Asus, EVGA, or Corsair. You can find lesser known brands though for cheaper prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simkiller January 27, 2011 Share simkiller Member January 27, 2011 The sole purpose is going to be gaming. I just want to make sure I don't box myself in like I did when PCI express had just come out and I went with an AGP motherboard. I don't care whether it's intel or amd as long as in the future, if my ram or cpu or video card is lacking for a game, I'll be able to buy better and have it be a quick swap out rather than a total rebuild. I'm thinking my budget is going to be 1500 now. With that I need to make sure and get all of the above mentioned and a mouse, keyboard, headset, windows 7 (and sound card if it helps with gaming i.e. footsteps) if not, a sound card isn't necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher January 27, 2011 Author Share Preacher Member January 27, 2011 If you play with a headset I would simply use onboard sound (which is pretty good these days) simply because of the ease of setting it up inside the case for your front panel, then buy a USB headset like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16826502011 Pressed for time today so if you will give me your email addy I'll forward over a PC I configured for ya in the $1500 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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simkiller February 2, 2011 Share simkiller Member February 2, 2011 I think I'm going to be able to use my dad's edu discount for windows 7 but when looking at what was available, windows 7 professional was not and windows 7 ultimate is available. I need to know if Ultimate is okay to use rather than professional and also should I get the 32 bit version or the 64 bit version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiler February 2, 2011 Share boiler Member February 2, 2011 I think I'm going to be able to use my dad's edu discount for windows 7 but when looking at what was available, windows 7 professional was not and windows 7 ultimate is available. I need to know if Ultimate is okay to use rather than professional and also should I get the 32 bit version or the 64 bit version. Ultimate is fine - it just adds a few other features to the Pro version that most likely won't concern you. 64-bit support for most everything is commonplace these days, so unless you have to run some older software that will not work at all with 64-bit, then I suggest going with the 64-bit OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simkiller February 2, 2011 Share simkiller Member February 2, 2011 Thanks appreciate the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simkiller February 25, 2011 Share simkiller Member February 25, 2011 (edited) Here is what I ended up getting. I have on order everything except the mobo. Waiting till the replacement Sandy Bridge boards come out, but here's the rest of my rig. CPU:i5 2500k VideoCard:XFX 6970 Power Supply:PSU recommended by Cujo RAM:8gb SSD for OS and most used programs:365mb/s read speeds on this sucker! 2 HDD's in raid1 for all my other files and junk:2-500gb WD black hdd Case:another Cujo recommendation DVD/CD Burner:settled for this for now..will get a blu ray down the road CPU Cooler (thanks to Preacher):Preach's good steal So far around 1300 dollars total. Still need the mobo and OS. Edited February 25, 2011 by simkiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai nightling February 25, 2011 Share samurai nightling Member February 25, 2011 I've used one set of G.Skill 2x1GB in an old build and 2 sets of G.Skill 2x2GB for the 8GB i have right now, and they have been rock solid. I hope you also have the same luck i have had with them, good choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher February 25, 2011 Author Share Preacher Member February 25, 2011 looks like a nice set-up, hopefully the sandybridge stuff is all stable now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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