Playaa May 4, 2004 Share Playaa Member May 4, 2004 listen to this this is a girl I know from another gaming community...she's going to try out for American Idol next year and wants to improve...got any critiques I could pass on to her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xterminator May 4, 2004 Share Xterminator Member May 4, 2004 Alright after listening to it i noticed a few things she might have to work on. Some of the high notes she isn't getting. She's like missing the notes by half a semitone, actually less than that, but it's quite noticable to the trained ear (not that i'm bragging). Umm her annunciation is good but close to the end she lost a bit of it, not for too long but once again, noticable. On the one high note she uses her fallcetto voice, maybe she could try to hit it with her normal voice. If it's to hard, Fallcetto is alright but then she has to work on hitting it a little louder, she kinda backed off at that part. Other than that she is a very good singer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa May 4, 2004 Author Share Playaa Member May 4, 2004 the only real critique I had for her was on some of the line ending notes she closes off the note and sings it through her nose I'll tell her what you said X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman May 4, 2004 Share Gunman Member May 4, 2004 She was also a little offbeat on the song, about 1:42 in she started losing it. She was hitting the notes about half a second behind the piano... Add to that what X said... Good singer, but has potential to be great...tell her to sing another and post it...something with a faster beat so we can judge that too...get both sides of the spectrum. Gunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus May 5, 2004 Share lazarus Member May 5, 2004 im gonna agree with what playaa said about pinching off those notes at the beginning and end of the lines she does the same thing that britney spears does (with her voice) like when she sings "these wounds wont seem to HEAL, this pain is just to REAL" and she does get off beat in the middle of the song she's got a great voice she just needs some mo practice, then she'll be an idol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa May 5, 2004 Author Share Playaa Member May 5, 2004 as for the off beat...I didn't notice what you guys were talking about...but then again I also know she wasn't trying to sing the song exactly like the origional...she was trying to sing it like SHE would sing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyxErinyes May 5, 2004 Share NyxErinyes Member May 5, 2004 (edited) *points out that women do not have a falsetto voice.. (For those who aren't familiar with the term, it's that range when a guy sings really high and his voice loses all vibrado (sp?)) Anyway, she's pretty good. She gets MAJOR credit for being able to belt out a difficult song like that, however she is just a touch shy of those high notes. I'm not sure if she's just missing or if her range isn't quite high enough to reach them, but the consistency tells me it's the latter. I'd consider singing a song more suited to her range. BTW Lazarus, that abrupt cutoff of a high note like that, is usually symptom of reaching for a note that you don't really have. Again, that's the way it comes across and I'd suggest a song better suited to her range. Edited May 5, 2004 by NyxErinyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL May 5, 2004 Share dwEEziL Member May 5, 2004 That's not necessarily true Nyx but since there are varied opinions on the matter, a quick search found 3 different views, I guess I will just leave it alone. Different views found: 1) Falsetto able to be used by both gender 2) Falsetto only used by males 3) Falsetto used by males, females use "head voice" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa May 5, 2004 Author Share Playaa Member May 5, 2004 actually Nyx girls CAN sing in Falsetto but they shouldn't because it sounds bad... listen to a guy singing falsetto and you can tell she is doing it as well about 3 or 4 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyxErinyes May 5, 2004 Share NyxErinyes Member May 5, 2004 (edited) Ah. Comment withdrawn then. The definition of it that I am familiar with, females do not have. (Basically #3) Anyway, take the rest of my comments for whatever they're worth. Edited May 5, 2004 by NyxErinyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nut May 5, 2004 Share nut Member May 5, 2004 watch it when i get home... psh ne good?? NuT-=) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa May 5, 2004 Author Share Playaa Member May 5, 2004 it's an mp3 Capt....not a video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xterminator May 5, 2004 Share Xterminator Member May 5, 2004 it's an mp3 Capt....not a video LOL, you heard the man he'll watch it when he gets home...leave him alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nut May 5, 2004 Share nut Member May 5, 2004 not bad... shes got chops.. she is really good... way better then me ... and u dont want to hear me sing so hehe NuT- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchtower May 6, 2004 Share Watchtower Member May 6, 2004 Simply Appauling. The worst thing I've ever heard. Did you hear the glass shattering?? Lol, j/k! That was my best Simon Cowell Seriously, I think her notes were on pitch, her problem is she isn't projecting well on those notes.. Shes not breathing enough and trying to force them. Kinda like Nyx said with "BTW Lazarus, that abrupt cutoff of a high note like that, is usually symptom of reaching for a note that you don't really have." Good singing technique involves using your diaphragm.. Basically "breathing with your stomach".. And you really have to push air with those notes.. You dont take big breaths with your chest.. My choir teacher taught us to breathe with our stomachs and backs as silly as that sounds.. If you breathe right would back kinda puffs out.. Try it! A little more smooth like the guys said, and breathe She has good pitch. Tell her to keep singing, she sounds great.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa May 6, 2004 Author Share Playaa Member May 6, 2004 attempt #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nut May 6, 2004 Share nut Member May 6, 2004 she needs to use all of her body... and get that true sound... yet i am at school again... listen to attempt 2 when i get home .... Back me up xterm NuT-+--) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyxErinyes May 6, 2004 Share NyxErinyes Member May 6, 2004 Better...? Maybe? I'm not very familiar with Toxic. Again though, in some of the higher range, she just loses her projection... The consequence is that on quick series of notes, she goes loud, soft, loud, soft, and not in the good dynamics sort of way. She just loses her voice cause she either is straining for the note or just isn't controlling her breathing properly. Anyway, she's still very talented, and again major props for a difficult song. She just needs a little more control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIN0 May 7, 2004 Share DIN0 Member May 7, 2004 (edited) i have nothing really to say.....its pretty much the same as what most people have said......she hes the potential to be great....she just needs a little more work In all though, it was good Edited May 7, 2004 by DIN0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchtower May 8, 2004 Share Watchtower Member May 8, 2004 It may have a tad to do with microphone type and placement as well.. A few vocal lessons never hurt anyone either.. If that's her passion, lesson would be a good step at this point.. Get a professionals point of view.. I heard William Hung is booked up through 2006.. So she'll have to settle for the next best thing I guess.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yErMoTH3r May 10, 2004 Share yErMoTH3r GC Founder May 10, 2004 (edited) good example of male falsetto is the lead singer from the dismemberment plan...timebomb is the title. Edited May 10, 2004 by yermoth3r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchtower May 10, 2004 Share Watchtower Member May 10, 2004 Found an informative site that may help.. Falsetto and Voice projection Talks about "heady" tones.. "Chest voices" and everything else.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa May 10, 2004 Author Share Playaa Member May 10, 2004 try #3 - Nora Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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