{.s.D.s.} R!c0 September 26, 2005 Share {.s.D.s.} R!c0 Member September 26, 2005 (edited) I'm getting like 30+ LOSS on the server lately. Choke I can live with. Loss is so bad that I don't even hear the sound effect of purchasing kevlar. Ice was saying something about there being a bad router from the server to our clients? Anyone got any news about when this issue is going to get resolved? Loss is never a good thing to play with... even if it's <5... So over 30 is just ridiculous. Thanks p.s. it's not happening on other Source servers I play on. Edited September 26, 2005 by {.s.D.s.} R!c0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavid September 26, 2005 Share pavid Member September 26, 2005 This seems to be a problem for some people, while others are just fine. The admins are aware of the problem and in fact some of them are affected by it. We don't believe that it is Aim2Game's problem. We think there is a router going bad somewhere on the way to A2G and the people experiencing loss are going through this router. Rest assured, we are trying to solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookie September 26, 2005 Share mookie GC Alumni September 26, 2005 Maybe this has already been said, or maybe it's not a good idea, but it seems like getting a traceroute from people that are having this problem might help us figure out what's going on. Maybe this is regional. I'm in the northeast and I'm not seeing any problems with loss or choke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nox September 26, 2005 Share Nox Member September 26, 2005 I haven't checked for loss, but most people using their radio to talk is all broken up. They seem to hear me just fine. I generally just listen for key words, like A or B. I'll run a "net_stat 3" ? (can't remember the command) and see if I am getting loss or choke as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooDooPC September 26, 2005 Share VooDooPC Member September 26, 2005 net_graph 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Berge_00 September 27, 2005 Share Ice_Berge_00 GC Alumni September 27, 2005 Maybe this has already been said, or maybe it's not a good idea, but it seems like getting a traceroute from people that are having this problem might help us figure out what's going on. Maybe this is regional. I'm in the northeast and I'm not seeing any problems with loss or choke. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We're getting ping plots (fancy tracertes ) of some of the admins (like myself) and other GC members having this issue. Fatty's talked to a2g about it as well, they mentioned they're also noticing some routing issues. Unfortunatley I haven't heard anything as to when this will be resolved. Welcome to the wonderfull world of technology Short of saying we're aware of it and investigating, I'm not sure what to say. Strange thing is, some days are much better for me than others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{.s.D.s.} R!c0 September 28, 2005 Author Share {.s.D.s.} R!c0 Member September 28, 2005 I was getting over 50 Loss at times last night. Good Times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vovik September 28, 2005 Share Vovik Member September 28, 2005 Heyya, I think that was my problem. But then in miraculously disappeared. At first I thought it's because the ping on server went way down from 130s to 30s for me. But it was probably also because I tweaked my rates that Warpig posted in another post, that Swoop apperently posted in the post before that.....well you get the idea. i have messed with my rates alot, got it good enough and then swoop posted his rates:rate 25000 cl_cmdrate 100 cl_updaterate 15 that is what i use know and 0 choke ping stays between 25-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{.s.D.s.} R!c0 September 28, 2005 Author Share {.s.D.s.} R!c0 Member September 28, 2005 Heyya, I think that was my problem. But then in miraculously disappeared. At first I thought it's because the ping on server went way down from 130s to 30s for me. But it was probably also because I tweaked my rates that Warpig posted in another post, that Swoop apperently posted in the post before that.....well you get the idea. i have messed with my rates alot, got it good enough and then swoop posted his rates:rate 25000 cl_cmdrate 100 cl_updaterate 15 that is what i use know and 0 choke ping stays between 25-30 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i have my rates just the same way listed...they were that was last night too... still, last night was the highest loss i experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIMbot 2.0 BETA Tester September 28, 2005 Share AIMbot 2.0 BETA Tester Member September 28, 2005 I think you guys should run the Packetloss_max 0 command in console, it cleared it up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruten September 28, 2005 Share Kruten Member September 28, 2005 You should try playing at different times of the day. Yesterday afternoon it seemed to be gone, but when I connected later in the evening it was back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilzugud September 29, 2005 Share Kilzugud Member September 29, 2005 alot of us in CsLs use.... rate 25000 or 30000 cl_cmdrate 100 cl_updaterate 100 * i am also getting loss. usually around 50 too. we have talked to a2g about our servers and why we are getting loss(CsLs). it sounds like they hope to have the problem fixed by early oct. dont mark my words but start looking for an improvement in the servers around then. if not try running a trace route to see where the problem is and where the loss is coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{.s.D.s.} R!c0 September 29, 2005 Author Share {.s.D.s.} R!c0 Member September 29, 2005 FTR, I had the same rate config as everyone else, but was still getting loss...however, about 11 pm (CST) last night, it completely went away... no loss or no choke. how random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Berge_00 September 30, 2005 Share Ice_Berge_00 GC Alumni September 30, 2005 it's not random, highest network usage is the afternoon and evening, this slowly dies off in the late hours. It makes sense because as the load on the routers decreases the lost packets, due to poor routing, drops off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{.s.D.s.} R!c0 September 30, 2005 Author Share {.s.D.s.} R!c0 Member September 30, 2005 yeah, it did the same thing last night... I even got up to over 70 Loss at one point.. but i was STILL ownin up the server.. w00t... And then, as you said, once it got later, it went away... internet "technology" is really bizarre. I think the hardest part is with the loss, you can't hear some things... like I miss nearly 50% of the he-grenades exploding... i can't even SEE the explosion, let alone hear it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Berge_00 October 1, 2005 Share Ice_Berge_00 GC Alumni October 1, 2005 I wouldn't say bizarre, the loss explains a lot of the problems for instance voice, with significant loss a large amount of data is being lost mid-stream. This means that some data packets never make it to the computer, or arrive too late to be used. So thus you don't receive all the voice data and the transmission is flaky. The same for other events such as detonations, the server says teh grenade detonated, but your game reacts to the late packet and things get wierd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentStile October 9, 2005 Share SilentStile Member October 9, 2005 Anyone still having issues with this? Because I am Choke is usally around 15+ in fire fights, randomly between 0-15 during normal running around, its messing with my tmp/shotgun rushing Frankly CS:S just hasnt been enjoyable with ping spiking like that, I have removed CS and redownloaded it, changed every setting under the sun from defaults to better then worse, nothing gets rid of the choke. Any suggestions? Ping trace shows no spikes between me and the server, running at every 5 seconds for 5 minutes testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Berge_00 October 9, 2005 Share Ice_Berge_00 GC Alumni October 9, 2005 hmm, I assume you already tried killing anything and everything that was running in the background while you were playing? (exa. ftp programs, file downloads/uploads, kazaa/p2p programs, bit torrent, anything else I can think of that uses bandwidth) beyond that, does changing your cl_cmdrate/cl_updaterate have any affect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentStile October 10, 2005 Share SilentStile Member October 10, 2005 yep, killed everything, shut off the other computers in the house to ensure it was just my computer on the network. changing the rates take me from having a constant 30-50 choke to 0-30(30 being acutally fighting) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire Slasher October 10, 2005 Share Shropshire Slasher Member October 10, 2005 (edited) last night I had a slightly new problem. I've got 0/0 (loss/choke) during normal movement, but firefights would spike up to 0/15. this is a different symptom than the constant 30/0 from the previous month. It was devastating though... i played a map and a half, and couldn't kill a thing. What was especially annoying was standing in a doorway, waiting for an opponent to come into view. My first sighting would be as i'm falling down dead. I wouldn't even hear the shot or hit until AFTER i'm falling dead. In fact, i wouldn't even see the person appear and turn to me to fire. They would be running away after the shot when they appeared on my screen! sigh. Makes me wonder what I got shot with, if all i can see is their backside Edited October 10, 2005 by Shropshire Slasher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentStile October 11, 2005 Share SilentStile Member October 11, 2005 Shrop, thats roughly what is happening to me too, only when I start seeing other people do I get choke usally, after the changes I put in the Rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Berge_00 October 11, 2005 Share Ice_Berge_00 GC Alumni October 11, 2005 well, it is somewhat expected that you may see an increase in Loss/choke during firefights. There's a lot more data being sent around Silent, what about your router or cable/dsl modem? Try rebooting those if you h aven't already tried. You could also run ping plotter to see where you're getting the loss ping plotter here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentStile October 12, 2005 Share SilentStile Member October 12, 2005 Tried ping plotter, ran it for a good amount of time and didn't have any spikes or problems. Reseting my modem is what I am gonna try next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Berge_00 October 13, 2005 Share Ice_Berge_00 GC Alumni October 13, 2005 what was your avg ping? You shouldn't any going over oh..60-80 depending on your connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentStile October 13, 2005 Share SilentStile Member October 13, 2005 average ping is 15-20. if I let it run for a while it gets down to 12 avg ping. When I first run it the intial ping spikes up high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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