ZeroDamage July 19, 2007 Share ZeroDamage Member July 19, 2007 correct me if im wrong but for games dual core > quad core? Yeah. Right now quad cores are not as fast in mhz as the dual cores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Soapdish July 19, 2007 Author Share Nick Soapdish Member July 19, 2007 (edited) so right now i have made my final choices i think. lemme show u my newegg cart. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827151145 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811129021 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16824001234 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814130072 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16829102006 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817190016 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16823126179 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16826153003 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820227195 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819115017 right now it's $2,560.90 with shipping $2,470.90 after mail in rebate $2,340.90 after the chip goes down to $300 $2,215.90 without the mouse and keyboard $2,335.90 with the two 300 gb HDD's from best buy This is with one 8800, I think I'll get the second after I take this hit to my paycheck. I'm also banking on the fans in the case being able to handle all the cooling I need. Edited July 19, 2007 by Nick Soapdish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller July 19, 2007 Share Leveller Member July 19, 2007 I just built an almost identical system about 1 month ago: Antec 900 case PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 quad Asus Striker Extreme Mobo Creative X-Fi Xtremegamer Fatal1ty Sound Card 150GB Raptor Core 2 Duo 6700 EVGA 8800GTX Superclocked 4GB DDR800 6400 G.Skill Ram (2 x 2GB sticks) Zalman CNPS 9700 NT HS/Fan Between that heatsink/fan and the 900 case I've had no issues at all with temperatures. Btw, don't know if anyone else has one, but I love the Razer Tarantula keyboard that my wife kindly surprised me with about 2 weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo July 19, 2007 Share Cujo Member July 19, 2007 (edited) not much to add here. just that a quad and dual core of the same speed will perform the same in current games. the quad will not be slower. i want to make that clear. also, go with a bigger psu. if it was my money i'd get the thermaltake 1200w. i've never heard of xion... one other thing to consider is the sli drivers are pants right now in vista. if you do end up going sli you will be better of with xp. what i'd suggest is getting a single card right now and then in the fall when nvidia releases their new lineup, upgrade at that point. current dx10 cards are performing horribly in dx10 mode in the few games that have support. the second gen dx10 cards will be significantly better at dx10. actually, one big thing to add. if you're not buying for a couple weeks than wait a bit longer. intel will be releasing their x38 chipset boards. they will do both sli and crossfire and have official 45nm support for next gen processors as well as official 1333fsb support. also, ddr3 is getting cheaper and faster and since this is balls to the wall i'd wait and get that. ocz just released some new ddr3 1600 ram that will have twice the bandwidth as what you're getting with the same latency. Edited July 19, 2007 by Cujo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroDamage July 19, 2007 Share ZeroDamage Member July 19, 2007 I know nothing about the PSU and I can not seem to find any reviews on it so I can not really comment on that. The RAM is ok but would be better worth your money to spend a tiny bit more and get the CAS 4.0 RAM over the 5.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Soapdish July 19, 2007 Author Share Nick Soapdish Member July 19, 2007 ok cujo, now u got me all worried about what to do....insight plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo July 20, 2007 Share Cujo Member July 20, 2007 very soon, august i believe, intel is releasing a new high end chipset to replace the 975. it's called the x38. it will do sli and crossfire, as well as have the most advanced overclocking features to date. it will officially support next gen intel cpus (like the p35 does). the nvidia 6 series chipsets and intel's 965/975 do not officially support 1333fsb or 45nm cpus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroDamage July 20, 2007 Share ZeroDamage Member July 20, 2007 very soon, august i believe, intel is releasing a new high end chipset to replace the 975. it's called the x38. it will do sli and crossfire, as well as have the most advanced overclocking features to date. it will officially support next gen intel cpus (like the p35 does). the nvidia 6 series chipsets and intel's 965/975 do not officially support 1333fsb or 45nm cpus. We'll have to wait to see some reviews and benchmarks to know for sure if what Intel is saying is true. Also, the boost to 1333 fsb does almost nothing to improve performance of the cpu's at the moment. Maybe the new Intel chipset will do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo July 20, 2007 Share Cujo Member July 20, 2007 Also, the boost to 1333 fsb does almost nothing to improve performance of the cpu's at the moment. Maybe the new Intel chipset will do that. it gives you a guaranteed stable overclock to on your 1066fsb cpus. if the motherboard can't do it then it's a legit reason to return the board. where as you get a 965 board that doesn't do 1333fsb you can't call up the manufacturer and say "my board doesn't go this high". and anyway besides that the p35 is a much better ocing board than the others available. the x38 is supposed to be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroDamage July 20, 2007 Share ZeroDamage Member July 20, 2007 Also, the boost to 1333 fsb does almost nothing to improve performance of the cpu's at the moment. Maybe the new Intel chipset will do that. it gives you a guaranteed stable overclock to on your 1066fsb cpus. if the motherboard can't do it then it's a legit reason to return the board. where as you get a 965 board that doesn't do 1333fsb you can't call up the manufacturer and say "my board doesn't go this high". and anyway besides that the p35 is a much better ocing board than the others available. the x38 is supposed to be awesome. I believe most of the 680i boards can do 1333 now; I know that mine can. I can not do DDR3 but I think it will be a while before DDR3 gets as main stream and as affordable as DDR2 is now. In the beginning DDR2 was slower than DDR because of the high timings and low bandwidth. That has changed now and I am seeing the same thing with DDR3 at the moment. I do not think anyone should hold back on upgrading because of DDR3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Soapdish July 20, 2007 Author Share Nick Soapdish Member July 20, 2007 does anybody know the prices of the 1333 boards or what they will need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo July 20, 2007 Share Cujo Member July 20, 2007 (edited) this explains a bit more what i'm talking about with "official". i haven't liked the nvidia chipsets since the beginning. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3042 1333 boards are out already. as for the x38 boards you'll be looking in the $300 range. in another month or so you'll see a lot more ddr3 on newegg. prices will be more than double than with ddr2 but think of the bleeding edgeness. balls to the wall. not to mention ddr3 is supposed to show much larger advantages with the 45nm cpus that are coming later in the fall. Edited July 20, 2007 by Cujo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZesteR July 20, 2007 Share ZesteR Member July 20, 2007 When the new x38s come out, and you wait for a 45nm cpu, and you wait for ddr3 prices to drop a bit... something else will be the bawls to the walls... i'm going crazy just thinking about it. Kinda like a brand new car. The second you drive it off the lot, it's worth less than you paid for it. :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo July 20, 2007 Share Cujo Member July 20, 2007 (edited) nah, there's nothing new on the horizon until late fall with new nvidia cards and intel's next gen cpu. amd's new one will be in august but it will almost certainly be a disappointment. here's another article about ddr3. i truely think it's worth the wait for those that don't upgrade every 6 months or less like me and zd. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3042 the conclusion is the most important part. also note, the game benchmarks are using a 7950gt. the differences would be even more pronounced with an 8800gtx or 2. Edited July 20, 2007 by Cujo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Soapdish July 20, 2007 Author Share Nick Soapdish Member July 20, 2007 i think my decision will now be based on how close i am to my credit card next time i'm wasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa July 20, 2007 Share Playaa Member July 20, 2007 here's advice for you. don't buy anything until they come out with the 1337 boards... I'm just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Soapdish July 20, 2007 Author Share Nick Soapdish Member July 20, 2007 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EbilDustBunny July 21, 2007 Share EbilDustBunny GC Alumni July 21, 2007 nick's current pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiler July 21, 2007 Share boiler Member July 21, 2007 Hey, at least it looks to have good air flow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZesteR July 26, 2007 Share ZesteR Member July 26, 2007 how are we doing on this? any new updates Nick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Soapdish July 26, 2007 Author Share Nick Soapdish Member July 26, 2007 well i managed to hold out for the 1333 mhz stuff, now i'm currently redesigning the buy, this is getting frustrating... the waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo July 26, 2007 Share Cujo Member July 26, 2007 last he said he was gonna wait til he's wasted next. that and he said it was going to be 2 weeks or more before this all happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Soapdish July 26, 2007 Author Share Nick Soapdish Member July 26, 2007 ive been working too much to get that wasted , hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Soapdish August 23, 2007 Author Share Nick Soapdish Member August 23, 2007 ok i lost a few other posts due to the shakedown of the forums but here's a quick update: compy is up and running, i'm at work so i don't have pics of it to post i'm running xp64bit pro right now my 3d max 06 score was 9k, i haven't tweaked anything and that was with programs running there's a few things i want to plan for: i want to get a little more speed out of my system (oc the cpu and gpu maybe) i'm using the stock fan from intel on the cpu and i'm thinking of getting a better heatsink right now i run at about 45 degC with CSS running, highest it's gotten is 52 i wanna say. haven't had any hangups yet. anyone running any thermoelectrics? i also wanna tweak the 64 bit windows to try to get a lil more out of my apps. anyone have any guides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EbilDustBunny August 24, 2007 Share EbilDustBunny GC Alumni August 24, 2007 *cough*ddr3*cough*... just do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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