KorbenDallas October 25, 2012 Share KorbenDallas Member October 25, 2012 As of right now it is impossible to move up any significant amount in the ranks. I keep seeing the same people in the top10 everytime I check. It would be nice to actually have a fair shot at the first place. Now, I know that some of you want to keep your rank cuz you earned it, but that's what levels are for. We can keep the levels to show how far someone has progressed and we should reset the ranks so that we can all compete for the top spots. So my idea is to reset the ranks every so often, for example once a year or every 6 months or whatever. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crasx October 25, 2012 Share crasx GC Alumni October 25, 2012 rank doesn't really affect anything. Maybe we could mod it to have monthly statistics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan October 25, 2012 Share JackieChan GC Alumni October 25, 2012 But I don't want to reset the server from having over 33 million zombies killed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas October 25, 2012 Author Share KorbenDallas Member October 25, 2012 I know rank doesnt affect anything but I would appriciate it if I could at least have a shot at the first place.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioKnight October 25, 2012 Share RadioKnight Member October 25, 2012 No. I know it doesnt seem fair, but resetting the ranks completely spits on all the time the people that have the top spots put in to get them. A separate leaderboard that goes by month would be nice, but I dont know if or how that could be set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codrut October 25, 2012 Share Codrut GC Coalition Member October 25, 2012 Or maybe get a weekly/ monthly special infected killed average?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake October 25, 2012 Share Cake Member October 25, 2012 if you play enough you will move up eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake October 25, 2012 Share Cake Member October 25, 2012 plus, rank doesn't mean how well you play either, if you play well, people will notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General October 25, 2012 Share General Member October 25, 2012 I know rank doesnt affect anything but I would appriciate it if I could at least have a shot at the first place.... I don't even have a shot at rank 1, even with a stat reset. Maestro has some pretty intense gaming sessions, I seen him go 7 hours once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerkoff October 25, 2012 Share Jerkoff Member October 25, 2012 (edited) A different rank would be nice, something like per month ranking would be a good way to increase competition. Because we can all agree we will never reach or even surpass Maestro's rank! I don't even have a shot at rank 1, even with a stat reset. Maestro has some pretty intense gaming sessions, I seen him go 7 hours once. Yeah, well I stay in spec once for more than that. Believe it or you can ask Jackie to prove it! Edited October 25, 2012 by Jerkoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValenAlvern October 25, 2012 Share ValenAlvern Member October 25, 2012 Always thought it be cool if there was a weekly ranking or monthly, but it still keeps track over overall stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soap October 25, 2012 Share Soap Member October 25, 2012 As of right now it is impossible to move up any significant amount in the ranks. I moved from the 350s to 1...140? maybe over the last year. So theres some movement. Obviously i'm a pro though but I see how that can be frustrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codrut October 25, 2012 Share Codrut GC Coalition Member October 25, 2012 2 years ago i manage myself to go on top 10. Then quit for several months, come back and i was 410. After a year or so, i am 390 something... So Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crasx October 26, 2012 Share crasx GC Alumni October 26, 2012 I can volunteer my services to do this if jackie wanted to and needed help. I am good with php+sql and database design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas October 26, 2012 Author Share KorbenDallas Member October 26, 2012 No. I know it doesnt seem fair, but resetting the ranks completely spits on all the time the people that have the top spots put in to get them That's what level is for, to have something to show for the time you spent playing. Rank should be dynamic. There are people on here that were playing on this server for years, so for me to surpass them in rank they would have to go into a coma or jail. I think we should reset ranks once a year and have something like "player of the year" type of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoojee15 October 26, 2012 Share hoojee15 Member October 26, 2012 (edited) What I want to mention is that the PPM are clearly bugged. In reality if you earn 10 points per minute then you are a very good player; if you earn 15 points per minute than you are exceptional and that may only happen very rarely. But in the rankings we see more than half of people has more than 20 PPM. There is clearly something wrong. In the correct statistics, most people should have a PPM around 5-8 with a very few (like general and nerdy) at 10. As for PPM above 15, that will only happen to exceptional players under very special situations (like, the other team makes many stupid mistakes) and cannot be maintained for long. Edited October 26, 2012 by hoojee15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValenAlvern October 26, 2012 Share ValenAlvern Member October 26, 2012 (edited) What I want to mention is that the PPM are clearly bugged. In reality if you earn 10 points per minute then you are a very good player; if you earn 15 points per minute than you are exceptional and that may only happen very rarely. But in the rankings we see more than half of people has more than 20 PPM. There is clearly something wrong. In the correct statistics, most people should have a PPM around 5-8 with a very few (like general and nerdy) at 10. As for PPM above 15, that will only happen to exceptional players under very special situations (like, the other team makes many stupid mistakes) and cannot be maintained for long. Headshotting regular infected can give.. 1 or 2 points, if youre using pistols thats another... what is 2 or 5 or something? you earn up to 20 or 35 just outside the safe room. Also Awp is best for racking up the points, as most of your shoots will be head shots or instant kills. You can also get points by healing others, helping them,saving them. High PPM = Team Player. You also gotta account for when a round last 20minutes, but I think that could average out the people with 10~20ppm who are average players, but get in games were their team has a long round. THen theres those with 30+, where THEY in any of those long rounds, if they're werent in those long rounds we'd probably see 80ppm vs 30ppm. Edited October 26, 2012 by ValenAlvern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude October 26, 2012 Share TheDude Member October 26, 2012 Even so Valen, i have a ppm around 25, which is just ridiculous Don't really care about how it scrambles, but i am curious as to how it is calculated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoojee15 October 26, 2012 Share hoojee15 Member October 26, 2012 (edited) What I want to mention is that the PPM are clearly bugged. In reality if you earn 10 points per minute then you are a very good player; if you earn 15 points per minute than you are exceptional and that may only happen very rarely. But in the rankings we see more than half of people has more than 20 PPM. There is clearly something wrong. In the correct statistics, most people should have a PPM around 5-8 with a very few (like general and nerdy) at 10. As for PPM above 15, that will only happen to exceptional players under very special situations (like, the other team makes many stupid mistakes) and cannot be maintained for long. Headshotting regular infected can give.. 1 or 2 points, if youre using pistols thats another... what is 2 or 5 or something? you earn up to 20 or 35 just outside the safe room. Also Awp is best for racking up the points, as most of your shoots will be head shots or instant kills. You can also get points by healing others, helping them,saving them. High PPM = Team Player. You also gotta account for when a round last 20minutes, but I think that could average out the people with 10~20ppm who are average players, but get in games were their team has a long round. THen theres those with 30+, where THEY in any of those long rounds, if they're werent in those long rounds we'd probably see 80ppm vs 30ppm. Lol, join a game, at the end of each round, watch the game statistics, divide the points earned by point farmer by the minutes the game lasted, do it a lot of times, and remake your conclusion. Or think it in another way: suppose on infected side, all the people are noobs and new players who only have 10 PPM according to rankings, then in a very short 5~6 minute game (games last this short are quite rare), we will still see about 10 tanks. Does that happen in real? Lol. It is always easier to make wild guess than to collect data from the game yourself. An approximate formula is, for every player, real PPM=(PPM in ranking)/3. Edited October 26, 2012 by hoojee15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas October 30, 2012 Author Share KorbenDallas Member October 30, 2012 so Jackie, whats the final word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs October 30, 2012 Share Biggs GC Alumni October 30, 2012 It'd be interesting if we just added monthly rank. Keep the all-time rank, it'll be like the hall of fame. Give players a chance to see who's doing best recently with stats from only the current month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan October 31, 2012 Share JackieChan GC Alumni October 31, 2012 The stats plugin isn't mine so no dice. I don't like tinkering around with stuff that isn't mine or I am not familiar with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crasx October 31, 2012 Share crasx GC Alumni October 31, 2012 maybe someone should mod the mod I will make this happen. but school is a priority right now, so it may have to wait until winter break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky November 1, 2012 Share Sky Member November 1, 2012 you could write your own version; hlstatsx isn't really designed for left4dead2. Do what I did, and just write a stats plugin for l4d2, instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas January 11, 2013 Author Share KorbenDallas Member January 11, 2013 sooooo... Anyway this will happen with it being a new year and all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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