Bot October 22, 2013 Share Bot Member October 22, 2013 3 seconds is too long in my opinion. There are many occasions where I get tripped up because of the 3 second rule. I think 1.5 seconds is plenty long enough to prevent an accidental rebuy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenix October 22, 2013 Share Fenix Member October 22, 2013 If it was reduced to 1.5 seconds, some people would be able to spam things like fireworks... I think 3 seconds is good, but otherwise my vote would go for 5 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackYoshi October 22, 2013 Share BlackYoshi Member October 22, 2013 Agree with Bot. Three second buy protection has never once stopped me from spamming fireworks and biles to my hearts content. The protection is to conserve points, which it does a good job of but I have also had my fair share of issues with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bot October 22, 2013 Author Share Bot Member October 22, 2013 If it was reduced to 1.5 seconds, some people would be able to spam things like fireworks... I think 3 seconds is good, but otherwise my vote would go for 5 seconds. I rarely buy fireworks and almost never buy biles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenix October 22, 2013 Share Fenix Member October 22, 2013 But that's just you...think of the hundreds of other players who use the !buy system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenix October 22, 2013 Share Fenix Member October 22, 2013 Agree with Bot. Three second buy protection has never once stopped me from spamming fireworks and biles to my hearts content. The protection is to conserve points, which it does a good job of but I have also had my fair share of issues with it. Goes to show a time increase would be more beneficial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs October 22, 2013 Share Biggs GC Alumni October 22, 2013 I agree that 3s is more than long enough to prevent accidental rebuys. I've found the cooldown occasionally prevents me from deliberately healing in fast succession as SI, but this is the only time it's been a problem for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swatfishy October 22, 2013 Share swatfishy Member October 22, 2013 i'd like a thing that stops you from buying full heals on surv if you're above 50 hp or so also the 3 sec protection does not apply to fireworks and probably not biles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan October 22, 2013 Share JackieChan GC Alumni October 22, 2013 i'd like a thing that stops you from buying full heals on surv if you're above 50 hp or so Yes, I keep thinking about that, but keep forgetting to do so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bot October 22, 2013 Author Share Bot Member October 22, 2013 But that's just you...think of the hundreds of other players who use the !buy system. The point I was trying to make is that the 3s protection is a poor method of controlling fireworks and bile spamming. Fireworks spamming happens all the time regardless of the 3s rule and you're rarely going to need another bile 3s after you bought the first one. It interferes with way more aspects of the game. It prevents healing as and SI in rapid succession. When I'm running with a teammate and buy an adrenaline, pass it on, and try to buy one for myself, that momentary pause can prevent you from taking the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan October 22, 2013 Share JackieChan GC Alumni October 22, 2013 The accidental buy protection is more for if the player accidentally presses the rebuy button more than they wanted to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bot October 22, 2013 Author Share Bot Member October 22, 2013 The accidental buy protection is more for if the player accidentally presses the rebuy button more than they wanted to. I think 1.5s is long enough to prevent that from happening. What are your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan October 22, 2013 Share JackieChan GC Alumni October 22, 2013 It's something to consider. Not saying "no" to the idea entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonebluen October 22, 2013 Share Leonebluen Member October 22, 2013 The point is protection for the buyer Fenix, not to stop spamming. If it's longer than it needs to be for protection, then that's all the reason needed to change it. You have the points, then spam as you wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yortz October 22, 2013 Share Yortz Member October 22, 2013 some are already spamming heals as charger not with the !rebuy command, and it's annoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
san` October 22, 2013 Share san` GC Alumni October 22, 2013 some are already spamming heals as charger not with the !rebuy command, and it's annoying Wait. Wait wait wait. I can heal as a charger when I'm smashing somebody?!?! How many points?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bot October 22, 2013 Author Share Bot Member October 22, 2013 (edited) Wait. Wait wait wait. I can heal as a charger when I'm smashing somebody?!?! How many points?!?! Heal for regular SIs cost 3 points. It can be worth it for the charger. I also like to heal in rapid succession when I'm jockeying and pouncing. There have been numerous occasions when the buyer protection has prevented me from landing a final hit to incapacitate. It can be a decent pay off when you heal to incap and then you inflict enough damage to recoup your points lost. The insta-kill headshots still get you though :/ Edited October 22, 2013 by Bot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerkoff October 22, 2013 Share Jerkoff Member October 22, 2013 Huh, didn't know there was a buy protection for buying biles and fireworks. The heal timer should go down for the SI as I do spam that heal button a lot as a charger. I rather take that risk of 6 points deficit to make sure that survivor gets incapped/charged away so my teammates can whale on her/him. 2 seconds is good enough to prevent it being from abuse and perhaps a threshold point increase for every consecutive heal for that spawn duration only. The point increase is in case the charger got his hands on a survivor with another incapped survivor next to him shooting with his pistol, so that he can actually kill him without the charger healing infinitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan October 22, 2013 Share JackieChan GC Alumni October 22, 2013 The buy protection is only for the !heal, !ammo, !laser, and !rebuy commands. It's not there when using the menu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButterNJelly October 22, 2013 Share PeanutButterNJelly GC Alumni October 22, 2013 I get annoyed when I buy a bunch of witches quickly and it stops me. I usually use the !rebuy command for it. Didn't realize I could avoid that buy using the menu! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackYoshi October 22, 2013 Share BlackYoshi Member October 22, 2013 i'd like a thing that stops you from buying full heals on surv if you're above 50 hp or so Yes, I keep thinking about that, but keep forgetting to do so. Good addition in my opinion. Would like to see it tested sometime in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yortz October 24, 2013 Share Yortz Member October 24, 2013 some are already spamming heals as charger not with the !rebuy command, and it's annoying Wait. Wait wait wait. I can heal as a charger when I'm smashing somebody?!?! How many points?!?! the menu_select bind i think, and it costs like reguar heal points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValenAlvern October 24, 2013 Share ValenAlvern Member October 24, 2013 The buy protection is only for the !heal, !ammo, !laser, and !rebuy commands. It's not there when using the menu. And Nightling called me crazy for not using any of those binds when I use to play. manual !buy for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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