White Knight November 7, 2003 Share White Knight Member November 7, 2003 MaleModel,Nov 6 2003, 10:29 PM] i still say some of you didnt like it cuz it made you think or didnt understand it. dont flame me i just must have missed something that made it suck so bad. this is me flaming you.... I haven't seen it yet, so don't have much room to talk, but if the reactions of my co-workers is the reaction I will have...then I will say that it sucks. Of the 30 odd peeps that I know that have ALREADY seen it, only 1 liked it, and hes an Id10t. Damn you Wachowski Brothers!!! You ruined an awesome series!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet-401 November 7, 2003 Share bullet-401 Member November 7, 2003 MaleModel,Nov 6 2003, 09:29 PM] am i the only one here that liked the movie? the fight for zion was teh best battle i have seen in a long time......i must have missed something here cuz i feel it was done rather well....i still say some of you didnt like it cuz it made you think or didnt understand it. dont flame me i just must have missed something that made it suck so bad. I really liked it too. Im with ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL November 7, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member November 7, 2003 (edited) I enjoyed it but was disappointed overall. I think this one is the least good (don't want to say worst) of the series. Seemed too predictable and just a rehash of special effects (although I do say the final battle roX0red. I was also pretty disappointed with the end. A friend of mine was talking to me about the Wachoski brothers. He said that he read that they were both normal looking/acting guys but, after the release of the first Matrix, one of them started dating a dominatrix mistress and got into bondage. Well, I don't know if it is true or not, but if it is, I definitely see her influece in this last movie (if not some of the non-needed eroto-dancing in #2). Edited November 7, 2003 by dwEEziL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jane November 7, 2003 Share jane Member November 7, 2003 worst moive ive ever seen besides "Bounce". And thats saying a lot. I've seen Matrix:reloaded, Harry Pooter, a Knights tale, and Half Baked. OK so these movies are entertaining, but they were alos let down. And that is what revolutions was to me. ARGH! I cant believethe last moive of the trilogy sucxored so much! Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX November 7, 2003 Share NOFX Member November 7, 2003 wow so it sucks....guess im waiting for dvd or just download it somewhere off the net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy November 9, 2003 Share auggybendoggy Member November 9, 2003 WARNING -- If you havent see it then dont read this post skip it!! Dangit I've been so ticked off that this movie STUNK. I've been contemplating all the philosophies in the first two movies and all the connections. I thought there would be some clarity to this and that some stable consistent story line would unfold before us all. HOGWASH! Let me say this... The W. Bros. are soooo full of smack its amazing. All this talk of causality and choice added up to NOTHING! They don't even know what the hell they're talking about. Just today I came across this watching "reloaded" trying to figure if I had missed something. also...I read a post that someone quoted Keanu as stating that some of us wouldn't get it for about 3 years... well let me tell you why!!! In Reloaded (near the beginning) after Neo takes off like superman, Agent smith walks into the scene meeting his double, says "everthing is exactly the same.....well not exactly". Now later in the movie he explains to Neo that when Neo killed him (in matrix 1) he changed and somehow became connected and was freed from the system (this is what he meant was not exactly the same in the beginning of reloaded) Then how the heak does he not figure this is a problem Part of his being connected was a result of Neo dying and coming back to life. was neos ressurection the same as the previous 5 matrix'? If it was then smith would have been changed in the 5 previous matrix' freeing him from the system and taking over. BUT WERE LED TO BELIEVE THAT HIS BEING FREE IS NEW. how could it be new? If everything is happening the exact same..as he states..then nothing has changed...including him being freed from the system. and if his being free from the system was the same as always then he should know hes going to die. Neos ressurection brought him all kinds of super powers...this was the exact same according to smith. if neos powers were the exact same then that means neo died, ressurected, killed smith, freeing smith...meaning smiths being free from the system is not new CONTRADICTION... There is no stability. DANGIT!!! Lucas and tolkien did much better stories with consitency. if only lucas would have let real directors handle the earlier episodes instead of these sesame street version. If anyone is following what I'm saying about the contradiction then please help me verbalize it. ps. this contradiction makes all the arguments of choice vs control unstable. Or perhaps it doesn't. Auggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeabos November 9, 2003 Share Zeabos Member November 9, 2003 (edited) "everthing is exactly the same.....well not exactly". Uh maybe im missing the point of your post. But the thing that isnt exactly the same, is him being freed from the system. Cause this all happened before Neo didnt make the same choice as the previous ones. I thought the best part of the Matrix III, was the Architech at the end of the movie and his conversation with the Oracle, it really went like this "Hey! I think I can salvage the movie!" - Architech "Nope, this movie is done for" - Oracle "Really? Even if i say something wicked cool?"-Architech "Nope, its hopeless, dont you see the sunset?"-Oracle "Yeah, Im out...."-Architech <he walks away> Edited November 9, 2003 by Zeabos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven November 9, 2003 Author Share Raven Member November 9, 2003 MaleModel,Nov 6 2003, 10:29 PM] am i the only one here that liked the movie? the fight for zion was teh best battle i have seen in a long time......i must have missed something here cuz i feel it was done rather well....i still say some of you didnt like it cuz it made you think or didnt understand it. dont flame me i just must have missed something that made it suck so bad. I enjoyed it...I liked it...I think it brought a satisfying ending to the trilogy. I do hear Zeabos on the DBZ action though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy November 10, 2003 Share auggybendoggy Member November 10, 2003 "everthing is exactly the same.....well not exactly". Uh maybe im missing the point of your post. But the thing that isnt exactly the same, is him being freed from the system. Cause this all happened before Neo didnt make the same choice as the previous ones. Exactly my point. Smiths being freed is not the same it is new. But in fact how could it be. His being free is a result of Neo being killed by smith and ressurecting and killing smith in return. If indeed smith was not free 5 previous times then what happened to neo. Did he die at the barrel of Smiths gun the previous 5 times? If not then there are 2 things not the same (smith AND NEO). Smith is marveled that he killed him and still came back to life. remember he tells him. I don't know how you did it but I killed you...and then you in return killed me. Neo must have died at the gun point of smith in the previous 5 matrix's. Otherwise smith would not say "its exactly the same" Neo had super powers (which happened after he ressurected) which allowed him to get to the architect all 6 times. which meant he did die at the gun point of smith the earlier 5 matrix'. This means that he ressurected 5 times before meaning he freed smith 5 times before meaning smith should have taken over the matrix the first time. So they will argue.... Neo never killed smith in the previous 5. Does this mean neo never ressurected...if so then how did he get to the arcitect 5 times before with all the powers. So W bros might argue... well he became superman like because the agents were chasing him and he made it to the phone just before smith killed him so he was never killed and later devoloped the super powers without ressurecting. but they lead us to beleive that everything neo has done is the exact same ONLY SMITH IS NOW FREE. If I'm wrong about this someone explain please ....It's killing me I was depressed for 2 days because the matrix to me was the modern day star wars. Remember when you were like 12 years old when luke finally faced vader in the empire stikes back (the best of the trilogy in my opinion). Thats what I was hoping for...Neo and smith. But Smith turned into a disco ball of light instead. GAWD that was lame. Auggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven November 10, 2003 Author Share Raven Member November 10, 2003 Wow Auggy, I think you need to quit thinking about the previous Matrix's and just think about this one. There are no analogies towards the previous One's. They happened and obviously failed. Neo had nothing to do with the previous Matrix's other than the fact he made a different CHOICE than all the rest did. When Smith said "Its happening just like before..." I think he was just mentioning that Neo beat the Agents and Smith said it was different because there are more of him now. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy November 10, 2003 Share auggybendoggy Member November 10, 2003 I took it the 5 previous matrix' were him. As they show in the architects office (with all the monitors) Neos past responses. Also the fact that the oracle always is telling him..."you've already made the choice. Your just here to find out why" like when he first meets here she tells him "never mind the vase" he says "what vase" and knocks it over.."that one" he says "how did you know that" she responds "never mind that what will bake your noodle is would you still have broken it if I hadnt told you". How did she know he would break the vase? Because he's done it before. Just as everyone always expects him. the host at the merovingeans restaraunt...the lady at the oracles door. But your probably right raven. I've got to stop thinking about this stuff Auggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman November 10, 2003 Share Hitman Member November 10, 2003 This means that he ressurected 5 times before meaning he freed smith 5 times before meaning smith should have taken over the matrix the first time. He would've taken over 5 times before except the 5 previous Ones chose the door that would Reload the Matrix, which took care of Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy November 10, 2003 Share auggybendoggy Member November 10, 2003 This means that he ressurected 5 times before meaning he freed smith 5 times before meaning smith should have taken over the matrix the first time. He would've taken over 5 times before except the 5 previous Ones chose the door that would Reload the Matrix, which took care of Smith. but neo choosing the door was well after the Neo ressurection which is where smith was made free. so in the past 5 instances regardless of which door (save zion or save the girl and man is extinct) smith would have been a free man meaning it all falls apart each time. Auggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL November 10, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member November 10, 2003 Also Auggy, I don't believe Neo's "resurrection" is what gave him the "super powers". He had the potential before. In fact, it is this "power" that allowed him to resurrect himself. The resurrection might have helped him "awaken" his potential, but I don't think he was changed any by the resurrection, just made aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman November 10, 2003 Share Hitman Member November 10, 2003 Right, he was a free man each time, it did all fall apart each time... but the Matrix was reloaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven November 10, 2003 Author Share Raven Member November 10, 2003 Also Auggy, I don't believe Neo's "resurrection" is what gave him the "super powers". He had the potential before. In fact, it is this "power" that allowed him to resurrect himself. The resurrection might have helped him "awaken" his potential, but I don't think he was changed any by the resurrection, just made aware. At this point, I think it was more about what Morpheus kept saying the in the first one...Neo just had to 'believe' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy November 10, 2003 Share auggybendoggy Member November 10, 2003 so your saying that neo had died at the gun point of smith before? How then did he make it to the arcitect? if he didnt die then did he kill smith? Also your not in agreement with the oracle...you've already made the choice your here to understand it? I'm thinking this is all messed up Auggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gOOters November 10, 2003 Share gOOters Member November 10, 2003 (edited) Here is one plausable theory on "The Matrix" Neo is a machine, kinda. He is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind (probably based on a "The One" template program). That's why, at the end of Revolutions, when his body is being taken away, he is shown as an orange glow. The orange glow is how the machines see each other, and therefore how they see Neo. It is also how Neo sees Smith inside Bane... he is seeing the machine program of Smith inside Bane's mind, and therefore it is an orange glow in the shape of the Smith. But the orange glow isn't the only reason to believe Neo is a machine. Throughout the trilogy other hints are given, such as: "His neural kinetics are way above normal.", "He's a machine.", "Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication...", etc. So if Neo is a machine, why was he created (as all machines must have a purpose)? He was created by the Oracle and the Architect to be The One. As the Architect explains to him: "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the Matrix... Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of The One... The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program." Translated, the Architect is explaining that Neo was designed to be a religious figure to the freed humans, thus causing them to put their faith (hope) in Neo and to rally around him ("...sum of a remainder..."). This helps to ensure that the freed humans are focused on Neo instead of war, and to keep them all together in one place, Zion (which was built by the machines for this purpose also). Neo is a form of control in the real world. And just to make sure that Neo carries out his part of their plan, the machines programmed him with "... a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the [humans]." This, along with his enhanced abilities and the "guidance" of the Oracle, keeps him on the intended course. The Architect also states that "The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program." This simply means that The One program in Neo's mind is the most important (prime) program in the Matrix, and that now that his mission (purpose) is complete, he must return to the source for deletion (all machines must have a purpose). The phrase "... temporary dissemination..." means that the The One program will be used again in the next version of the Matrix. This is also why Neo's choice of the left door will destroy the Matrix, as there can be only one The One in the Matrix at any time. By staying in the Matrix Neo is preventing it from being reloaded, as a reload will do nothing without another The One for the next version. (In programming terms he is the highest priority task, and he will not release the Matrix program's main semaphore.) OK, so The One is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind, and was created by the Oracle and the Architect to carry out a specific purpose (form of control in and out of the Matrix) in each iteration of the Matrix. Now let's see how The One fits in with the entire story of the trilogy. As is explained, the Matrix was created by the Architect, at the end of the war with the humans, as a way to control the humans and use them as a power source (I know, hard to believe...). The first Matrix was "... quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime.", while the second Matrix was redesigned "... to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature." Basically Heaven and then Hell. In both cases, however, no conscious choice was given to the humans as to whether or not they wanted to believe in the reality of the Matrix. This caused the majority of humans to reject the Matrix and die ("... whole crops were lost."). To solve this problem the Oracle was created, and realized correctly that the humans needed to be given a choice: "Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche... she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level." So by giving humans a choice, even at an unconscious level that only 0.1% are ever aware of, they accepted the Matrix. Unfortunately for the machines, however, a majority of the 0.1% who were aware of the choice usually chose the real world over the Matrix. "While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster." The machines therefore also needed a way to control the 0.1% of the humans who chose the real world over the Matrix, thus Zion and The One were created. As was explained earlier, Zion was built by the machines to ensure that the freed humans would all gather in one place, and The One was created to be their religious figure, helping to distract them from renewed war with the machines. Both forms of control. But even with Zion and The One, the unpredictability of choice ("systemic anomoly") still forced the machines to occasionally "reload" the Matrix. This always occurs when The One reaches the Source, which he can only do after attaining the level of power necessary for him to defeat the Merovingian, obtain the Keymaker, etc. The One program is then temporarily reinserted into the Source (machine mainframe), in preparation for the next iteration of the Matrix. In the process the machines gain the knowledge and experiences of The One, allowing them to better predict the future behavior of the humans, and thus reduce the systemic anomolies. So that is the situation at the start of the sixth iteration of the choice-Matrix. Luckily for the humans, however, the Oracle does not want them to be enslaved in the Matrix any longer, or for the freed humans to be killed. She therefore decides to take a risk and use Neo to bring about a "revolution". In M1 (The Matrix) she meets with The One, Neo, as she has done in the five previous iterations of the Matrix. Normally she simply helps guide The One to his meeting with the Architect. Except this time the Oracle gives Neo a special cookie, which he eats. The cookie isn't actually a cookie, though, it's an upgrade to Neo's program. Since the Oracle created the The One program, she can predict exactly what Neo will do in the future, specifically how he will destroy Smith (from the inside, with some copying from Neo to Smith occuring). She therefore includes in the program upgrade code that will give Smith the ability to replicate himself, and for Neo and Smith to see the future as she does. In M2 (The Matrix Reloaded) Neo plays out his role as The One, meeting with the Architect. However, due to his love for Trinity he chooses the left door, preventing the Matrix from reloading. This was seen in advance by the Oracle, as she has the ability to predict Neo's behavior (as explained above) as well as human behavior in general (due to the nature of her program). She therefore told Trinity that she would fall in love with Neo (in M1), all the while knowing it would eventually cause Neo to choose the left door. In M3 (The Matrix Revolutions) the Oracle's plan comes to fruition. While the machines begin their assualt on Zion (for the sixth time), Smith continues to replicate himself throughout the Matrix. Neo, on the otherhand, is stuck in the train station. Apparently, fulfilling his mission to meet with the Architect unlocks some section of his program that allows Neo to use his enhanced implants to once again become part of the machine collective (perhaps because of the Oracle's upgrade?). He is therefore able to sense and control other machines wirelessly. The first example of this is when he stops the sentinels at the end of M2. Since he is not quite ready to use his new abilities, however, his program gets stuck at the security checkpoint of the Matrix, the train station. In the train station Neo meets with Rama Kandra, his wife, and their daughter Sati. Rama and his wife are both machines from the real world who can jack into the Matrix, like all other machines, and live human lives. Sati is a program created by these two machines out of love, which Rama explains to Neo is not out of the grasp of the machines. They are on their way back into the Matrix to leave Sati with the Oracle for safe keeping, as any program without a purpose is deleted. After being rescued from the train station by Trinity, Morpheus, and Seraph, Neo is helped out of the Matrix using the standard jack. While aboard the Hammer he has another vision of the future, this time of the three power lines leading from the Matrix power station to 01, the machine city (he is able to see the power lines due to his newfound connection to the machine collective). He therefore takes the Logos, along with Trinity, and leaves for 01. Along the way he confronts the stowaway Bane (who has the Smith program inside of him), and is blinded by him. Although blind, Neo is still able to see other machines (orange glow), including the Smith program inside Bane, which he uses to defeat Bane. He also uses his power to control other machines to detonate the bombs fired at the Logos by the 01 defenses. Meanwhile Smith is replicating out of control in the Matrix, and eventually confronts the Oracle after taking over Seraph and Sati. They have a brief conversation in which he calls her "Mom", referring to the fact that she helped to create him (along with the Architect) as well as Neo (part of his program now). The Oracle then tells Smith to "Do what you came here to do.", so he takes over her as well. The newly formed Smith then stands up and laughs hysterically, foreshadowing the events at the end of the movie. Eventually the Logos crashes in 01, but not before Neo gets a top-down view of the orange glowing city with his newfound machine-vision (notice the fractal patterns). Unfortunately Trinity is killed in the crash, and explains to Neo that both of them have been living on borrowed time. Neo since he was ressurected by Trinity, and Trinity since she was ressurected by Neo. Both are meant to die and Trinity is simply happy for the oportunity this time to tell Neo how she feels about him. (But shame on the brothers for killing off Trinity in such a lame way. Couldn't she have at least died trying to save the ship, not just letting it crash!) Neo then leaves the Logos and enters the machine building into which it crashed (the building is seen in the same orange glowing machine-vision). He is then confronted by the Deus Ex Machina, who knows that Neo is the only one who can stop Smith from destroying the Matrix, but still shows hatred toward Neo (due to the fact that he is mostly human). After a show of force, the Deus Ex Machina agrees to peace with the humans in exchange for Neo's promise to destroy Smith. This causes the sentinels to halt their attack on the Zion temple, the last holdout of the remaining humans (the dock and city have already been destroyed). The machines then jack Neo into the Matrix, since he has not yet masterred the ability to do so wirelessly (this theme of Neo having to learn to use his new abilities runs throughout the trilogy). Neo then confronts Smith, who says he has seen the future, and that he (the one particular Smith) is the one that defeats Neo. The other Smiths (all of the other people in the Matrix have now been taken over by him) therefore only watch as the fight begins. After a brutal battle Neo is near defeat, but continues to fight. When asked why he does so, Neo responds "Because I choose to.", echoing the theme in M2 that "Everything begins with choice." (the only way humans achieve true freedom). But even though he delivers a stunning punch to Smith which sends him through the ground, Neo is eventually defeated. Before Smith takes him over he pauses, however, realizing that he has seen this very moment in his visions, and he already knows what he is going to say. "Everything that has a beginning has an end..." he mutters confusedly. This causes Neo to realize that the Oracle still exists somewhere inside of Smith, and that she is partially able to control his thoughts. Taking his cue from the Oracle, Neo freely gives himself to Smith. Thus Neo is defeated, and Smith's original purpose, to defeat The One (which he is never really expected to achieve, which leads to his bad temperment) is accomplished. Smith therefore no longer has a purpose and must be deleted. But since programs marked for deletion must return to the source, how is Smith to be deleted? Simple, the machines send the command through Neo, into Smith, using a burst of energy. This causes all of the Smith clones, and the original Smith, to be deleted, leaving the original inhabitants of the bodies he has taken over (this is a basic function of the agent programs, that they leave their hosts as they found them, with death being the only exception). This then completes another revolution in the Matrix cycle, as The One has reached the Source and has reinserted the prime program (Neo's program, his knowledge and experiences). The Matrix is then reloaded back to it's initial state, the late 20th century. The Oracle then meets with Sati, Seraph, and the Architect in a park outside the city as the sun rises over it. The Architect tells her that she was playing a "very risky game", and she asks him if he will honor the promise of peace. He says that he will, since he is not human (meaning humans do not keep their promises, an insult). This means that those people who unconsciously become aware of the Matrix and choose to leave will be freed, and those living in Zion will not be killed. The war between man and machine is over, or at least suspended. Looking upon the sunrise the Oracle asks Sati if that was her doing, and the girl responds that she did it for Neo (made the sun rise). Apparently Neo's experience with love, which was uploaded from him to the Source, caused the machines to show pity on Sati and give her a purpose instead of deleting her. She is now in control of the sun. Sati also asks the Oracle if they will ever see Neo again, and the Oracle replies that they might, indicating that the The One program will be used again in the future, as it had been for the previous six iterations of the Matrix. M3 therefore ends where M1 began, except that now the humans who become aware of the Matrix will be freed (a decent compromise if you ask me). There you go! Edited November 10, 2003 by gOOters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL November 10, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member November 10, 2003 Very nice write up goot. Or, and don't be offended...was it a cut and paste job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven November 10, 2003 Author Share Raven Member November 10, 2003 very Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight November 10, 2003 Share White Knight Member November 10, 2003 yeh, that was a bit too good. Where'd you copy that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auggybendoggy November 11, 2003 Share auggybendoggy Member November 11, 2003 I agree that was great, if only our very own gooters had discovered this on his own. the closing should read "sincerely, stephen hawkings" I liked it though I have a few reservations. Raven has helped me to free my mind a bit. so I'll go ahead and ask gooter. You state that the machines send the command via neo. If its that simple why not just delete him. If he cannot just be deleted then what power does neo (from the inside have)? Seems like smith defeating him while the main system cannot delete smith leaves only one resolution spells doom. If indeed all they had to do was send a command via another program then couldnt they have done it with another program (sort of like a trojan virus). I dont get it Also smith is not a machine. yet he uploads to a human mind (who is not a machine). It seems as if it's alluded that he too has powers over machines. 1) he set off an emp (which one) a ships? or by his hand as neo does? 2) he survived the machines raid on the ships. How? It seems to be a pattern that whatever smith does neo can do. Copying being the exception. I realize these are a explanable...he charged an emp and then set it off - not by his hand... BUT was he not in coma as neo was. In the case when an emp was set off people around the area did not go into coma. BUT BOTH NEO AND BANE WERE IN COMA leading us to beleive he did it with his hand also and he is not machine. NEXT. What is up with the end of Matrix 1 "system failure" - end of story hahahahhaahhahahah I'm not totally sure this solution is correct however I agree with about 90% of it. Auggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman November 11, 2003 Share Hitman Member November 11, 2003 Ok whenever something like that happened, a wizard did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven November 11, 2003 Author Share Raven Member November 11, 2003 What is up with the end of Matrix 1 "system failure" - end of story hahahahhaahhahahah At the end of the first Matrix, they weren't sure it would make enough money for a sequel, so they gave it an ending in case people didn't enjoy it or they didn't have enough money for a sequel. Obviously, they never really had to worry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL November 11, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member November 11, 2003 Auggy, IMO, Smith set off the ship's EMP. Neo and Smith were linked so when Neo exerted himself downing the squiddies (I wouldn't necessarily call it an EMP, just a "stop program" type command) and went into a coma, Smith did as well. Another idea is that Neo and Smith's conditions weren't related. If you remember, Neo needed to be jacked in to come out of his coma (he wasn't really in a coma, just in the waiting area of the train station) while Smith just eventually came out of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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