dwEEziL July 10, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member July 10, 2003 (edited) General J, Vsync is NOT the reason it dips into the teens. Vsync would prevents it from going above 60Hz. Don't know why your system sees the increase when you enable/disable it but that is not how Vsync works. Edited July 10, 2003 by dwEEziL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Premier July 10, 2003 Share DJ Premier Member July 10, 2003 with vync on, my CS runs poorly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gOOters July 10, 2003 Share gOOters Member July 10, 2003 I'll try it J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gond July 10, 2003 Share Gond Member July 10, 2003 How hard is it to build your own system? 40mins to 1hr to put components together another hour or so to install all the junk you want + OS And about 4 hours up front to research & decide what components you want. Then a couple hours to download all the new drivers & install them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TF_FSoul July 10, 2003 Share Guest TF_FSoul Guests July 10, 2003 The ECS K7S5A is a great little mobo for about $46 with 200/266 bus. You can buy a comparable Asus for $60. AMD XP2000+ for $62. 256mb PC2100 DDR for $39. 64mb Chaintech GF4/Ti4200 for $82. Then add on 50 bucks in shipping total and you are still missing a case, new hard drive, DVD or cd-rom, Sound card, etc.... With the low prices and competition everywhere it is cheaper to buy a system put together. The most expensive part of any new computer right now is the Video Card....if you want a decent one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiffy July 10, 2003 Share Jiffy Member July 10, 2003 vsync doesnt drop fps, only locks it at 60. It is your card, not vsync. I have a program that locked my refresh rates at 100 on my monitor and in CS my fps never drop below 90, with smoke never below 60. almost always a constant 99 and thats with a Geforce 3 ti200. not the best by a long shot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMamma July 10, 2003 Share YoMamma Member July 10, 2003 (edited) lucky you. in some maps i get into the teens with my voodoo5. normal fps for me are 30-60 Edited July 10, 2003 by YoMamma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zerodamage July 10, 2003 Share Guest zerodamage Guests July 10, 2003 It has been known for vsync to cause your fps to drop. It did it to me all the time, so i always had it turned off. But whenever i turned it on to see if I could tell if I was experiencing texture tearing for having it off, cs became unplayable. So yes, turn it off if it is on and it may smoothen things out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer July 10, 2003 Author Share [Mmmm]Homer Member July 10, 2003 The ECS K7S5A is a great little mobo for about $46 with 200/266 bus. You can buy a comparable Asus for $60. AMD XP2000+ for $62. 256mb PC2100 DDR for $39. 64mb Chaintech GF4/Ti4200 for $82. Then add on 50 bucks in shipping total and you are still missing a case, new hard drive, DVD or cd-rom, Sound card, etc.... With the low prices and competition everywhere it is cheaper to buy a system put together. The most expensive part of any new computer right now is the Video Card....if you want a decent one. I was assuming you were upgrading your current system. Shipping would prolly be $20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Premier July 10, 2003 Share DJ Premier Member July 10, 2003 Homer,Jul 9 2003, 05:31 PM] The ECS K7S5A is a great little mobo for about $46 with 200/266 bus. You can buy a comparable Asus for $60. AMD XP2000+ for $62. 256mb PC2100 DDR for $39. 64mb Chaintech GF4/Ti4200 for $82. This is not low-grade stuff, this is just behind the curve. It's probably not the best idea to get a 200/266 FSB MB when they are already moving to 800. That is why it costs $46 bucks. By the time the D3 engine is released, you'd need to upgrade your CPU/MB/Vid/Ram AGAIN. Might as well add the cost of TWO upgrades. By waiting for the next great engine prior to upgrade, you can guarantee you'll be gamin on that system for a while. I guess that's my philosophy. It's not always smart to go with the lowest rung components. At least for a person who only has time for 1-2 games, like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer July 10, 2003 Author Share [Mmmm]Homer Member July 10, 2003 DJ, Do you work at 3D Realms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Premier July 10, 2003 Share DJ Premier Member July 10, 2003 I've been caught! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt_Jimmah July 11, 2003 Share Pvt_Jimmah Member July 11, 2003 I just upgraded for Unreal2 and HL2... $500 My system is a P4 2.6 Ghz 1 GB Ram Radeon 9800 Pro 128 Mb 120 GB HD So, the only thing holding me back from enjoying a game online is my stupid wireless router.... Linksys must pay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer July 14, 2003 Share Killer Member July 14, 2003 I just upgraded a month ago for 800 dolla. Abit KD-7 AMD AthlonXP 2500+Barton 512 pc2700 60gig 7200rpm HD GeForce4 Ti4200 8xAGP Golden Sample Sony flopp Samsung 52x24x52 CRWD Kingwin 3 windowed Case w/ 5 fans and 3 caths. (the only 3 windowed case you can buy online) Tt heaysink. XP Pro Plannys Supermat Logitech Elite Keyboard Pretty big upgrade for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunk July 14, 2003 Share Lunk Member July 14, 2003 I just built my first pc over 4th of July weekend. It cost me around $550 to do it. This is what I put in it: Biostar M7NCD Pro Mobo AMD/Athlon XP 2500+ Barton 1ghz PNY PC2700 Memory(2 sticks of 256mb & 1 512mb) Asus CD-Rom Power-Case(Picked it up at pc show for $35 with 400 watt ps) TI4200 64mb vid card Floppy drive XP keyboard Mouse WD 80gb hdd w/8mb cache It's not hard to build one. The hardest thing for me was deciding which mobo to go with. It's mind boggling when you start looking at all the different ones. Homer gave me the idea to go with the biostar mobo. And so far I don't regret it. I would recommend this board to all. And I've noticed a big difference in cs with this new pc versus my Dell P4 1.4ghz w/256mb RDRAM and 32 mb vid card. With the new one I'm always the first one on during a map change. For me it's becoming a hobby. I like to tinker with the pc. And I'm fixin' to upgrade my old P3 450mhz pc now. Change mobo & cpu with new memory. Like DJ said it's all about priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer July 14, 2003 Author Share [Mmmm]Homer Member July 14, 2003 The Biostar mobo is a nice solid one, in the style of ECS. But if you want overclocking look elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL July 14, 2003 Share dwEEziL Member July 14, 2003 Asus, Abit, and Epox have great BIOS' for OCing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zerodamage July 15, 2003 Share Guest zerodamage Guests July 15, 2003 I use the Epox one and it runs perfect for me. This is one thing that Nvidia has going for it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Premier July 21, 2003 Share DJ Premier Member July 21, 2003 Well Homer...your curse worked. My MB died this morning so I went out and bought a new MB, CPU and RAM. I now have an Asus A7N8X-Deluxe MB (nForce2-400), AMD Athlon XP 2600 and 512 DDR333 RAM. Do I pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchtower July 22, 2003 Share Watchtower Member July 22, 2003 ****UPDATE***** I canned the 450 and bought and ASUS A7A 256 DDR2100, GeForce2 32MB and 2000+ proc for under $150.. Runs Real nice.. Dont crack on my vid card either It does pretty good for $30 thats how me and Knock have both been playing together lately.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mmmm]Homer July 22, 2003 Author Share [Mmmm]Homer Member July 22, 2003 DJ, you pass as long as the XP2600+ you got is a 333mhz FSB chip and not a 266mhz chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Premier July 22, 2003 Share DJ Premier Member July 22, 2003 333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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