Playaa January 15, 2004 Share Playaa Member January 15, 2004 clickage for video my instinct says it's fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magruter January 15, 2004 Share Magruter Member January 15, 2004 I know i'm not Swoop but i just had a discussion with my boss who's pretty well versed on various trades. I'll just use some of his words, he is not quite sure but he puts together a good two sided argument. "watching that cross bar cleanly evaporate doesn't seem likely, there would have been a messier explosiion, but I could be wrong." "no wait, those aren't evaporating, it is a bar switch rotating back smoothly..mechanics look real, but I still can't see an image that slow and well resolved with no interference for a spark that big and long" "I see green color copper? at each end of the base of the spark..pink from nitrogen excitation as the electricity ionizes the atmosphere..but photoshop could also do this effect." This one is my favorite: "the fact that you can see so much structure for so long is what makes me suspicious, the ionization pathway should be more like lightenining, more jagged, too fast for film or video to resolve into that level of detail..also I don't see any corona coloration effects as (kind of like a jacob's ladder) as the arch rises ohms law dictates resistance is reising and temperature should increase and light frequencies should show according color shifts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa January 15, 2004 Author Share Playaa Member January 15, 2004 what about the part where he said: "Why are you wasting company time watching videos and trolling message boards? Get to work or get fired." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight January 15, 2004 Share White Knight Member January 15, 2004 that doesn't look real...atleast not to me. (and i am no expert) the colors are just a bit too bright...and what was the camera doing looking right at it anyways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis January 15, 2004 Share Dennis Member January 15, 2004 its real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooney .gc January 16, 2004 Share Mooney .gc Member January 16, 2004 looks fake, it made a design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance January 16, 2004 Share lance Member January 16, 2004 what about the part where he said:"Why are you wasting company time watching videos and trolling message boards? Get to work or get fired." Those were my thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBugs January 16, 2004 Share TheBugs Member January 16, 2004 looks fake, but it looks soooo cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossad January 16, 2004 Share Mossad Member January 16, 2004 (edited) look at all the workers looking at it, and it looked like on guy was cowering behind a truck on the right side. I think it's real. Edited January 16, 2004 by Mossad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xterminator January 16, 2004 Share Xterminator Member January 16, 2004 It could very well be possible First of all it's a power line which means it's carrying hight voltage (high tension wire) second to make an electrical arc like that you need a lot of power to overcome the air resistance. High tension wire has a lot of power. Think of it as a huge example of static electricity (even though it's not static electricity) it works on the same principle. Electrons getting transmitted through the air from one thing to another. Pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gond January 16, 2004 Share Gond Member January 16, 2004 It appears there are 3 sets of things opening...why only the one spark. The spark seems much brighter and crisper than the rest of the scene. Seems fake but I've really no clue...it's just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KagE January 16, 2004 Share KagE Member January 16, 2004 the way that thing disappears makes me tihnk its fake, all of a sudden its gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGSHaW January 16, 2004 Share BIGSHaW Member January 16, 2004 It could be heavily modified vedio of actaull event??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa January 16, 2004 Author Share Playaa Member January 16, 2004 actually I found out it's real...that is just an extreme example of it happening but apparently it happens often... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flux January 16, 2004 Share flux Member January 16, 2004 Playaa, are you going to sell me that monitor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magruter January 16, 2004 Share Magruter Member January 16, 2004 Playaa how did you find out this was real, can you show me an article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaa January 16, 2004 Author Share Playaa Member January 16, 2004 from the forum I found it in the first place: tthats real, what is happening is an extreme, but real and potentially dangerous nonetheless. What they are doing is blocking out that station, if you look closely, you can see the bars spread apart...the electricity that was in them continues to jump across......probably due to weather conditions being just right. I have seen that several times before, never that big, but 4-5 feet. We paint those stations for several customers. Part of the process is to "Block out a bank/transformer etc", . Oh, by the way, as part of our pre-job meeting and trainng, we have the crew witness key areas. The opening of the circuit which this video shows, usually hits home instantly when they see a lightning bolt about 3-4 inches in diameter jump across 5'.....the noise is whats really strange....stuff is loud. CKY...I didn't know you wanted it...like I said unless you make it VERY worth my while...I'd rather have a huge 21" monitor than a 17" CRT or 15" flat panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeabos January 16, 2004 Share Zeabos Member January 16, 2004 Ya, i htinkt he workers give it away, The guy is cowering behind the truck on the right. Then when it stops he stands up and cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMamma January 16, 2004 Share YoMamma Member January 16, 2004 My dad works with this kinda stuff in real life. He being a mechanical engineer is very knowledgeable in this field and he always point out electrictal sub stations and the such whenever we would drive by one so I'll ask him later and give you guys his answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwOOp January 17, 2004 Share SwOOp Member January 17, 2004 (edited) Playaa, it is real. I have witnessed and operated switches like that in a substation before. I have seen arcs drawn like that before, it is wicked. And even though you can hear it through the clip. The sound doesn't compare to what it is like in person. Xterm, what you are talking about is induction. What this clip here is doing is just dropping load. The more load dropped, the bigger the arc and most generally the longer it takes for it to be extinguished by whichever loadbreak device is being used. What you won't want to see (or maybe you would) is a video when a loadbreak device doesn't work. The electric demand is so big (on transmission lines) that the amount of separation between the blades is not enough, so it just keeps on arcing, then a ball a fire, and it just keeps on hitting until something gives. Normally the wire just burns down. One of my leadmen was talking to me about this today as we were doing some switching and he was going over certain areas you want to inspect before operating the switches. Basically he said if the load break device fails, get outta there fast. Edited January 17, 2004 by SwOOp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble .gc January 17, 2004 Share Trouble .gc Member January 17, 2004 jimi is smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMamma January 17, 2004 Share YoMamma Member January 17, 2004 my dad says: I'm in the power industry, but I've never seen an arc jump like that. Notice the 2 guys in the bottom left corner of the video say "wow!". The clip looks real to me and the other writer had a good explanation of why it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwOOp January 17, 2004 Share SwOOp Member January 17, 2004 (edited) Yo, I don't mean this in any disrespect at all, but engineers, know jack about what goes on in the field. It's the same in every power company, the engineers draw up the job on paper, and the lineman are the ones that blister their knuckles. That's ok and all, because that's what we get paid to do. But most engineers don't experience any of this stuff in the field, all they know is their computers, their prints, and their standards. What does make us mad, in our area and other power companies I know of as well, is an engineer not even going to look at a job and writing it up the way they think it can work out, or worse they look at the job and still right it up wrong. So we have to makeup for their mistakes, whether it be getting the right materials cause the wrong ones were ordered, or totally changing the work orders so that everything will workout. If you screw up in the engineering field you figure some prints wrong, or mess up on the proper fuse coordination. When you screw up out on the field, you get burnt, lose appendages, or worse. Edited January 17, 2004 by SwOOp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwEEziL January 17, 2004 Share dwEEziL Member January 17, 2004 Swoop...go to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppySurprise January 17, 2004 Share PuppySurprise Member January 17, 2004 both of yall go to sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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