you banned me? banned

[Guest bloodbath&beyond]

I was playing on the server, and i was banned. Im not sure exactly why. I'll give you the gist of what I did. I want to express my confusion with your policies. Why is it exactly, that you have such a problem with "naughty" language being used while everyone is playing a violent game. A violent game where killing people is rewarded with money. A violent game with plenty of blood and gore and realistic representations of people being killed.

 

Are you to suggest that there is a single person who is playing the game who has never heard a curse word? To suggest that very person would be terribly offended if they were to read one, and for that very person to leave the server in tears? I cannot begin to understand your reasoning for banning "foul" language, which is relative as I do not find simple words to be offensive. But one can be much more offensive using clean language, simply calling someone a "stupid noob" or the like. I was banned not for the use of what you consider to be "innapropriate" language. But for simply trying to get a better understanding as to why you find it "innapropriate".

 

I fully respect your authority and right to make whatever rules you want to make for your own server. But am I the only one who finds the irony of it all sickening? I've played many online games, devoting alot of time to them. Many of which violent shooters, and I have yet to encounter someone complaining to server admins about "foul" language. I don't care if you do not unban me. There is a plethora of CSS servers besides your own. I simply wish to draw attention to a rediculous rule that holds no water given the situation. I say good day.

[mookie]

The issue you raise has been raised before, although not always as reasonably. The bottom line is that those are the rules of these servers, and anyone who can't follow them is free not to play here. The only explanation I can give you is that there is a difference between fake violence and real offensive language. I'm sure everyone playing CS can probably deal with that kind of language, but not everyone wants to, and GC is one of few places where such people can play without being bothered by people tossing around insults and foul language. If you are willing to follow the rules and want to get unbanned please read this, I'm sure that we all are glad to have players to compete with who are willing to obey the rules of the servers.

[Shodan]

I was the one who banned you.

 

I have no problem with you wishing to debate or talk to us about our rules in this forum. I banned you because you were warned by myself and other regs not to continue to debate our rules in the game. I kicked you because you ignored a couple of regs who asked you to stop. When you complained about the kick I warned you again that if you continued I would ban you.

 

Click on the big yellow banner on the top of this forum, read the contents and then decide if you want the ban lifted. If you wish to debate our rules here, then fine, debate away.

[Fatty]

[Playaa]

for every person who complains about not being able to cuss on these servers, there are about 5 more people who come to these servers for exactly that reason. The strict rules here are what have kept this place constant and good for years.

[Guest bloodbath&beyond]

I honestly feel no need to curse. It isn't that I complain because I can't type out these forbidden words. I complain because I find such rules to be redundant. I can't understand how anyone would be offended by just a word that holds no meaning. Words only used to emphasize other feelings. But the words are only "bad" because you make them that way, by drawing attention to them.

[Braden]

Thats not true. Take Sociology 101. People respond to words positivily and negatively. Also, you know which words are bad or not, and if the server filter trips or an admin warns you then likely those words are bad too.

 

Regards,

Braden

[MrDuke]

Keep in mind that the more exceptions there are, the harder it is to maintain this place. Almost all situations necessitate an all or nothing approach, as is the case here. No swearing is much easier to enforce than some swearing. Trying to apply too many rules (or exceptions) to too many players = a headache.

[*BiGBonES**]

I honestly feel no need to curse. It isn't that I complain because I can't type out these forbidden words. I complain because I find such rules to be redundant. I can't understand how anyone would be offended by just a word that holds no meaning. Words only used to emphasize other feelings. But the words are only "bad" because you make them that way, by drawing attention to them.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

I swear everyday in real life but I still support the no swearing policy in the gc servers. There are plenty of reasons why swearing shouldn't be allowed.

 

- Swearing is generally used as a form of whine or curse towards other people

- This server has many young kids playing on it, who's parents want them to play in a clean environment.

- Many of the older members of this community have children of their own. They don't particulary want the kids to walk past and see someone splurting out loads of swear words either on the mic, or by text.

- Some people don't like swearing.

- The use of 'negative language' generally tones down the nature of a really great game.

 

The same applies to porn sprays. Although its an over 18 game, many members do not wish to see porn, not that they are disgusted by it, but it just tones down a great game.

 

 

So, this rule isn't so rediculous after all

[Brillow_Head]

It's good that you feel no need to curse in the game. And its a good thing that you didn't get banned because of foul language. The ban was instituted because debate needs to be taken up here instead of ingame.

 

Not to be taken personally in any shape.

 

Welcome to the forums.

[Ice_Berge_00]

I think another big reason we don't allow it is because it incites other behaviour that doesn't belong in the server.

 

The simple question to ask I guess is, do you need to be able to swear to enjoy the game?

[lazarus]

what i really like aobut the no swearing rule is that it keeps a certain element out of these servers. i find that people who cannot control themselves enough to type a swear word, are usually immature punks that make the game horrible to play. thats why these servers are populated by mostly adults(?) and people mature enough to have fun and play by the rules , instead of juvenile delinquents who cant help but ruin a round/map/night for everyone.

[farmerisme]

what i really like aobut the no swearing rule is that it keeps a certain element out of these servers. i find that people who cannot control themselves enough to type a swear word, are usually immature punks that make the game horrible to play. thats why these servers are populated by mostly adults(?) and people mature enough to have fun and play by the rules , instead of juvenile delinquents who cant help but ruin a round/map/night for everyone.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I heartily second that. It's not about the swearing... its about keeping people that can not handle not swearing out.

[witt]

i agree that he has the right to state his case.

 

but i believe he has entirely too much time on his hands

[Guest ash-]

what i really like aobut the no swearing rule is that it keeps a certain element out of these servers. i find that people who cannot control themselves enough to type a swear word, are usually immature punks that make the game horrible to play. thats why these servers are populated by mostly adults(?) and people mature enough to have fun and play by the rules , instead of juvenile delinquents who cant help but ruin a round/map/night for everyone.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

(i'm not speaking about the guy who got banned, i'm not sure what his situation is.)

that's so true. having a swear filter and strict rules against other lame things allows the admins to filter out the stereotypical lamers that populate most CS servers. i've seen many people on GC, and other servers with strict rules, get banned because they felt the need to question the admins in a hostile manner about the rules and whine about them (while swearing at the same time most likely). obviously, these types of people are just begging to be banned, and the strict rules just make the unknowns known and brings them out in the open.

[TheReverend(c)]

This is why I dont have a mic. Just in case I accidentally blurt out the wrong words.

[Kruten]

This is why I dont have a mic. Just in case I accidentally blurt out the wrong words.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

This is why I have and use a mic that apparently doesn't work.

[MrDuke]

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Just ask one of our customers!!

 

"This is why I have and use a mic that apparently doesn't work." - Kruten

 

See?

 

To order YOUR pair of ultra sleek, uber cool headphones send $199 (plus tax) to teh GC office.

[stutters]

[Cranky Bullfrog]

I'll comment as an individual who does not enjoy listening to people use profane and vulgar language - regardless of the setting.

 

First of all, to say Counter Strike represents realistic violence is like saying that Mickey Mouse actually resembles the real thing. It's a cartoon. You can talk about all the realistic aspects you want, but it's still a cartoon in reality. Yes, it involves violence and yes it involves aggressive behavior but only within the context of a highly restricted cartoon world with unrealistic interactions and outcomes (in fact, there are many unrealistic aspects of CS as compared to real war).

 

So, I say all that to say - it's just a game!

 

Therefore, the only "real" aspect of the game is the very "real" behavior of the players - the human operators who manipulate the cartoon figures and speak for them. That's where the gloves actually come off because the game itself is highly regimented in terms of what you can and cannot do to another player within the game. However, our voices and the things we type are generally unbounded by the game. So, we are free to say or type most anything. That means that within these channels we can act very offensively towards other players. That includes the use of vulgar language, racial taunts, demeaning insults and etc. That's not what we enjoy here.

 

Rather, we enjoy such things as team spirit, cooperation, achieving goals as a group (aka team), and good spirited laughter and humor at times. We enjoy the camaraderie that makes us a coalition of players (hence our name - Gamer's Coalition). That means we have things in common that we share; like our love for the game. We emphasize good sportsmanship and skills development. We aren't about put-downs, demeaning talk, rude behavior or acting vulgar to or in front of one another.

 

Not everyone would agree with you that words are just words. Many a wrong word has been uttered at a time when violence shortly followed. Death, injury and hate-crimes have all come about because of words. The Bible accurately describes the tongue as an unruly member because it seems to be the one thing that most people have the most trouble controlling. It has been the cause of wars, riots and many other social ills for years and probably will always be so. Whether profanity is directed at another individual or just freely broadcast to the open air (or typed), many people find it offensive and do not care to listen to it or see it in prose.

 

Therefore, it's not unusual that a group of friends might want to create a place where they can get together and enjoy a game together in a cooperative and friendly environment without the distractions caused by abusive or vulgar language. If you feel the same way and want to join us in cooperative play, then you would of course be welcome on our servers.

 

We strive to create an environment that supports relaxation, team work, cooperation, and good times together. We want the servers to be a place where adults and kids alike can enjoy themselves. We don't want for those same people to have to suddenly grab for the volume control on their PC speakers or quickly cover their screen because a child, mother or other family member came into the room while they are playing on our server.

 

Cursing adds nothing positive to our society. It is, in general, associated with crude, negative or hostile emotions that are primarily an expression of personal selfishness. There are many ways to vent (or celebrate) and there is no need to allow the overflow or our negative or cruder emotions to spill over onto those around us.

 

Cursing is the last resort of the defeated intellect.

 

Cranky Bullfrog

[ephemeral]

I honestly feel no need to curse. It isn't that I complain because I can't type out these forbidden words. I complain because I find such rules to be redundant. I can't understand how anyone would be offended by just a word that holds no meaning. Words only used to emphasize other feelings. But the words are only "bad" because you make them that way, by drawing attention to them.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

if i may add my 2 cents, the reason that GC doesnt allow cursing is not because they find it offensive themselves, but because they want everyone to feel safe and welcomed. if the first thing someone hears/sees when the come onto a server is swearing and cursing, then they will be far less likely to stay. same with porn sprays and racial/sexual harassment. these things just kind of take the fun out of gaming, and are very distracting. its better to just hear 'good job' and 'nice shot' or 'bombsite b!!!' lol and the swearing again has nothing to do with blood. i, personally, HATE hearing people swearing at each other; first of all, it doesnt create a fun atmosphere at all, and second, does absolutely nothing for you, or your team. so the general point is, GC has created a safe place to game, and those rules are there to keep it that way.

[mookie]

OK meow, let's all note that this topic has been dead for over a month. Clearly Blood Bath & Beyond is not coming back to read this.

[stutters]

i guess i'll go ahead and close this meow.