Va Tech Shooting

[ShadowDog]

i feel bad for his family. i feel bad for all those that were involved.. it's terrible. Let's say the sister ever meets some guy and tells him her name... he'll probably be like: =O

 

or if he didn't know the name, he'd be like: so do you have any siblings...

 

yeah.. that sucks =[

[Allanon]

I have to wonder about how his family is taking all this. I mean, I have no sympathy for HIM but this has to be utterly horrid for his family to know that their son/brother/grandson/etc. slaughtered so many people.

 

There is no excuse for what he did... but I get the feeling that his was abused as a child.

 

Also apparently a bunch of South Koreans brought out signs near the U.S. embassy in Seoul saying they were sorry for what he did. It's weird how they feel responsible even though they probably didn't know him.

[akaM2]

Also apparently a bunch of South Koreans brought out signs near the U.S. embassy in Seoul saying they were sorry for what he did. It's weird how they feel responsible even though they probably didn't know him.

 

I saw that too. He disgraced there nation according to there government and people. They feel it is there fault.

[Playaa]

Also apparently a bunch of South Koreans brought out signs near the U.S. embassy in Seoul saying they were sorry for what he did. It's weird how they feel responsible even though they probably didn't know him.

 

I saw that too. He disgraced there nation according to there government and people. They feel it is there fault.

 

y'know...I fully believe this world would be a much better place if more people took the blame for things that weren't their fault.

I'm just sayin.

[appalachian_fox]

Also apparently a bunch of South Koreans brought out signs near the U.S. embassy in Seoul saying they were sorry for what he did. It's weird how they feel responsible even though they probably didn't know him.

 

I saw that too. He disgraced there nation according to there government and people. They feel it is there fault.

 

y'know...I fully believe this world would be a much better place if more people took the blame for things that weren't their fault.

I'm just sayin.

 

Hear, hear. It's easier to place blame for things that are one's fault, though.

[dragonfly]

Definitely spins a new light on our notions of individualism. We're really all more connected than we think, and we're (Can and US) way behind on any sense of "community" than many countries.

 

I'm listening to various clips. It amazes me how people want prayer out of the school no matter what, until something like this happens. Then they pray every day.

Edited April 19, 2007 by DarkArchon

[shaftiel]

I'm listening to various clips. It amazes me how people want prayer out of the school no matter what, until something like this happens. Then they pray every day.

 

 

What? What in the world does that issue have to do with this?

 

 

 

 

Shaftiel

Edited April 19, 2007 by shaftiel

[ShadowDog]

Definitely spins a new light on our notions of individualism. We're really all more connected than we think, and we're (Can and US) way behind on any sense of "community" than many countries.

 

I'm listening to various clips. It amazes me how people want prayer out of the school no matter what, until something like this happens. Then they pray every day.

 

 

... i want prayer out of school no matter what, and even after this. Prayer has nothing to do with your school or government and should never. I agree the pledge of allegiance should not be said and i also think God should be taken off all our coins. Our government should have nothing to do with religion... At All. (except for respecting religions.)

 

As for after this shooting, i still think that way. Having prayer in school wouldn't have changed this at all. This would have still happened regardless if people prayed in their schools or not. On a scientific and realistic level, you can pray all you wan't for this to have not happened... but it did, and stuff like this will happen again... i hope beyond belief that it doesn't happen again, but it will... sad to say.

Edited April 19, 2007 by ShadowDog

[TheGeek]

Lets try to keep at hand. It would suck to have this transported to the debate forum.

 

Any word if the "baptists" showed up?

[Fatty]

<searches the room for Shadow's soul using a soulmeter, but the reading comes up as lost>

 

Geek is right, stick to the facts, share your opinion, but don't debate other people's opinions. The easiest way to stear clear of this is to just monitor how many times you use "I" statements in your posts.

[farmerisme]

Well just for the record he wasn't the one that brought prayer in school into it

 

That whole debate does not belong here at all.

[ShadowDog]

sorry for my opinions, just frusturated me when it was brought up. no offense to you darkarchon.

 

<edited, warned>

[shaftiel]

sorry for my opinions, just frusturated me when it was brought up. no offense to you darkarchon.

 

<edited, warned>

 

 

Um... relax, you'll give yourself a stroke if you keep that up.

 

 

 

Shaftiel

[ShadowDog]

how do they consider themselves baptists though?

 

i hope something like what ty said happened in his town, happens at Virginia... with the bikers protecting the funerals.

 

those bikers are probably very honorable people.

[dragonfly]

Whoa sorry guys! My bad.

 

I didnt mean we need to keep the Lord's prayer in school and make everyone pray! :S

 

I meant it more along the lines of students being told they can't pray at school. Example: my sister's classmate was told she cant pray on school property. There's been several court cases about it, students being told they cannot pray on school property incase they offend someone.

 

I really wasnt trying to start the debate, or say that prayer is the answer to all of our problems (regardless of what I believe prayer does). It's just sort of strange how it's now ok to pray when something like this happens, but it's not fine when everything is in coast-mode. Like, in one of the clips, the guy talks about prayer on TV, and students want to pray on school property about this... nothing to do with the Lord's prayer.

 

I hope that's a little clearer! Sorry 'bout the confusion.

Edited April 20, 2007 by DarkArchon

[Tracid]

As an asian I feel shame for what he did.

[ZeroDamage]

Some news about what happened today. They opened up the building to a few of us to gather computer equipment and the like from the 3rd floor. Like always, we had to use the second floor entrance to get to the 3rd floor. I will explain why you have to use the 2nd floor to get to the 3rd. The arch that separates Norris from Holden (physically the same building) has the side entrance. You walk in the door, you are confronted with 6 or 7 stairs and a set of double swinging doors. When you walk through, you are on the second floor. The 1st floor is more like a basement than an actual 1st floor. As soon as you walk onto the second floor, the stairwell is to your left which takes you to the 3rd floor which also empties right at the offices that I worked at. As I explained earlier today to a blogger, the killer did not need to go to the 3rd floor to kill anyone. The quickest and easiest way for the 3rd floor to escape is down the one flight of stairs to the second floor. As people did this to flee, they would have pooled into that little area where the 5 or 6 stairs are and unfortunately that door was chained shut. Fortunately, SWAT showed up quickly which prevented any of my co-workers from being killed.

 

What I saw today was impressive. When I got to the arch (which was still yellow taped off), there wasn't any blood stains or anything that I could see. Walking up those few stairs and seeing all the way to the end of the second floor, I could not see any damage at all; there was no blood stains or any visible damage to any of the doors or decorations on the walls. Only 2 of us could go up at a time and we required FBI escort along with an American Red Cross worker. We had close to 40 work stations to unhook, label, and carry down one at a time. Thankfully the FBI let more of us go up after about 30 minutes and we were all done in 2 hours. We had people from across the way at Randolph Hall come help with carts and people to help us move. The number of people supporting us was very heart warming. As a side note, the number of emails from strangers that I've gotten is amazing as well as the number of comments and emails from people on Facebook.com. I can't say I've received jack from all of the friends I have on Myspace. People there are too busy sending spam chain letters and I think my days on that crap social site are over. Anyway, enough about that. The cool thing is that we also had State Troopers, Red Cross, and FBI agents helping us with the moving of stuff and what not. That to me was just amazing.

 

Tomorrow I will be helping set up my co-workers which are scattered all over the campus. Some are in locations that are nearly impossible for me to support right now and I am thankful those that are donating us the space have support that can cover for now. This event has brought all of us closer at my work which is a good thing. I think of everyone as like a second family and am thankful that they are all still here.

 

An interesting tidbit about this Cho character. Ignore the rest of the site since it is political in nature and focus on this really short article and the link to the NBC site that it is referencing. (Also some good info for you admins)

 

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?en...ection&only

[dragonfly]

I'm glad you're getting so much support ZD, as you've obviously been giving it too. I'm really glad.

[Allanon]

ZD you can probably confirm this but I've heard that the reason a lot of people are living V tech for a bit and getting away is not only because of how terrible the shooting was. Apparently the media has been all over people like vultures

[ZeroDamage]

Yes, that is part of the problem. Our website basically tells anyone where anyone works on campus. We are also on high alert for possible copy cats so all of the local elementary schools and what not have been closed all week.

 

I forgot to mention but the other day I did walk through the media area and there are more satellite equiped vans and trucks than I could possibly count. None of the media bothered me and the interesting thing is that I saw a couple of the media personalities we know. First, Shepard Smith from Fox News is a really large man. You can not tell on TV but he is fairly tall and just a big man. Paula Zaun has aged a lot in the past several years. CNN has warn her right out from the looks of it. I am exhausted beyond belief right now and can not remember the name of that other CNN guy. He has the beard and is an older guy. Oh yeah, Wolf Blitzer. He is a tiny man. I wish I got a picture of him sitting on the stool in his little tent area; his feet were hanging in the air. I doubt he is much more than 5 foot 4.

[Xoul]

No offense intended.... But this is why I hate America. This kid was teased and made fun of obviously. I honestly didn't know about this shooting until today when I seen it on a website. This kid probably wouldn't have EVER did this if the media would quit showing school shootings on TV. They blow it WAY out of proportion. Its one of the major reasons why I don't watch TV anymore. I can tell you right now that each state probably had 100 school closings, because they had some sort of related THREAT. And this just proves my point about the media. First it was Colorado. This kid was obviously a copy cat, and now how many more will there be? Yes, it is horrible news. Its the worst possible thing that could have happened. I honestly don't feel that our nation really needs to know about it though. I know it sounds cruel, but there are WAY to many kids out there that think this kind of this is funny. I personally know people who joked around about it when the Colorado shooting happened and they ended up expelled from school. I know that if I lost someone in a school shooting, having it broadcast on the news wouldn't help me grieve. Seeing it would make me suffer. Yes, its a horrible thing that has happened. But I blame the media... I'm upset that there is even a post about it here... I pray for the peoples families that suffered a lose... but there are just too many stupid people out there that will copy cat this... I wish I could do something to stop the media from showing so much violence on the news... I have 4 kids, and I don't want them watching T.V. because the news.... It scares them...

[YoMamma]

Also apparently a bunch of South Koreans brought out signs near the U.S. embassy in Seoul saying they were sorry for what he did. It's weird how they feel responsible even though they probably didn't know him.

 

I saw that too. He disgraced there nation according to there government and people. They feel it is there fault.

 

I think the media kind of made S. Korea feel responsible. A couple days ago there was an article on CNN titled "What Impact Will This Have on S. Korea."

 

Well I don't think there should be any impact. The media just loves to point fingers and blame others for ratings.

S. Korea shouldn't feel responsible for one man's actions. I understand if they feel bad or sad, but not responsible.

[ZeroDamage]

There is a fairly large number of Asians that attend VT. They are mostly Engineering majors and there are a couple of student workers that I am still seriously worried about who are Asian. I talked to one yesterday and she said that she plans on staying for the next few weeks of class and she will move on after that since she will graduate at that time. The media enjoys creating controversy where there isn't any and this situation is no different.

[ZeroDamage]

I liked what Stephen King had to say about this. The article is really short and gives some good insight on what many are saying about Cho's writings.

 

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20036014,00.html

[Tyranus]

His picture is creepy. Looks like the Grinch! Looks a little like Zero or what I picture him looking like except 50 pounds more.