Static May 11, 2013 Share Static Member May 11, 2013 I notice that when a boomer gets popped next to a charged survivor the charger will get knocked off and his charge circle will be full again and considering when you suicide a boomer it pops i reckon you can ghost jump in and suicide next to a charge and he can chain charge his own charge lol this also works well with hunter as they can repeat jump on their victim for more points. Boomers would also be useful when they jump into a crowd and boom and then suicide rather than they survivors popping you and kicking you around so the un-boomed can get enough distance When you are a spitter and you have just spit on an incapp it can be frustrating when it's in the interest of the team to spit and die as you go over the incapped guys body and he kill you which of course puts more spit on him but gives him points and they may be the points he needs to full heal, however if you suicide through the buy menu over his body he only gets assist points as he probably will have shot you a couple of times on your way over to him. It is also important to kill yourself when you have missed a charge and they are shooting you from behind unless you want to hide and full heal and re-spawn as ghost. If their are any more benefits or tricks with this please let me know. Also I feel suiciding should cost 1 point. + sorry for misspelling suiciding so many times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looneypumpkin May 11, 2013 Share looneypumpkin GC Board Member May 11, 2013 I agree on suiciding chargers. I don't have it binded, but I should. I succeed about 50% of the time. I don't want to give the survivors points on top of my fail charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma May 11, 2013 Share Kuma Member May 11, 2013 Hm...maybe not costing 1 point but, let's say, you have to wait 2 sec or 3 to "buy" suicide for charger OR more often you buy suicide, longer you have to wait to buy suicide again, which would speed up the suicidal stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static May 11, 2013 Author Share Static Member May 11, 2013 i also feel their should be the option to suicide whilst your attacking someone for instance if a guy is being smoked but for tactical reasons you want to keep them in-capped and not kill them but atm you cant, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerkoff May 11, 2013 Share Jerkoff Member May 11, 2013 i also feel their should be the option to suicide whilst your attacking someone for instance if a guy is being smoked but for tactical reasons you want to keep them in-capped and not kill them but atm you cant, That was taken out because of the charger exploit (buying suicide from charging in heights). Changing the suicide from zero to 1 is pointless...hehe...Reason being is that suicide puts you at a disadvantage of waiting another 20-30 seconds to respawn. With the current decimal/percentage damage base done, survivors will still get points even if they don't land the kill on you. Buy suicide depending on the situation: - If you're in the back and miss your attack, run further back to respawn immediately with your new choice of infected AND FULL LIFE. - Those times when your attack done it's job, stick around to do a few melee. Buying suicide immediately means no distraction for the survivors and you might just have miss the opportunity to claw that incap which we all know every second counts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenix May 11, 2013 Share Fenix Member May 11, 2013 (edited) I've already tried to suicide boom....I was successful landing between a ton of people...but when I bought the suicide, nothing happened, no one was boomed even though I exploded. I believe the same thing happens with spitter too....no spit is left behind under your corpse if you suicide. Only the charger suicide is the one that works, but there was a thread about this a while ago, and it's bannable. Edited May 11, 2013 by Fenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerkoff May 11, 2013 Share Jerkoff Member May 11, 2013 Suiciding as a boomer does nothing but the Spitter do leave a puddle and it will hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan May 11, 2013 Share JackieChan GC Alumni May 11, 2013 Unless I'm wrong, I thought I patched suiciding while charging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude May 11, 2013 Share TheDude Member May 11, 2013 Unless I'm wrong, I thought I patched suiciding while charging. you did, but it still works if you charge without hitting someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityKitty May 12, 2013 Share GravityKitty Member May 12, 2013 Cant suicide and boom someone. Wish it could though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan May 12, 2013 Share JackieChan GC Alumni May 12, 2013 Unless I'm wrong, I thought I patched suiciding while charging. you did, but it still works if you charge without hitting someone Okay, good. That was my intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs May 13, 2013 Share Biggs GC Alumni May 13, 2013 What was the intended use of the sucide menu option? It's cool how inventive you guys are with what's given to you... but to me this seems like an exploit of the !buy system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenix May 13, 2013 Share Fenix Member May 13, 2013 In my opinion I think it was meant for those who missed their target or spit from a far distance and miss. This way they can suicide instead of running all the way to the survivors to die because while they're alive they are holding those SI. There used to be enable Ghost Form (I think it's still on the menu but still disabled) that could eliminate this issue? Not sure why it's still disabled, but I figured it may come in handy but could still work the same as a suicide if ppl exploit it like you can with suicides. Maybe Jackie can code it so that you can only use it when not attacking (ie not in the middle of a charge or a "launch") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swatfishy May 13, 2013 Share swatfishy Member May 13, 2013 What was the intended use of the sucide menu option? It's cool how inventive you guys are with what's given to you... but to me this seems like an exploit of the !buy system. from the one tournament game that was played it was used for point denial. it pretty much only works if your whole team does it (and does it well) for example if you miss your pounce in the middle of a group of good players, theres like a 1% chance you can make it out alive to pounce again so you might as well suicide and deny them the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madvillain May 13, 2013 Share Madvillain Member May 13, 2013 for example if you miss your pounce in the middle of a group of good players, theres like a 1% chance you can make it out alive to pounce again so you might as well suicide and deny them the point I do this all the time with my chargers and hunters... since I fail so often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonebluen May 13, 2013 Share Leonebluen Member May 13, 2013 (edited) Enable ghost mode is an automatic tool that engages when you are a particular distance from the survivors. (And by automatic I mean a "press E" to do this shows up). Edited May 13, 2013 by Leonebluen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swatfishy May 13, 2013 Share swatfishy Member May 13, 2013 Enable ghost mode is an automatic tool that engages when you are a particular distance from the survivors. (And by automatic I mean a "press E" to do this shows up). no you used to be able to buy/go into ghost mode from the buy menu for free its really overpowered if used correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieChan May 13, 2013 Share JackieChan GC Alumni May 13, 2013 Yeah, when I first added it, it was an instant reghost. I added a 3 second timer to it and I use it sometimes (because I coded it so only I can use it when it's disabled) and it can be easily taken advantage of because you can chain Spitters like nobody's business. Also, the effects of a Boomer (stumbles, biling survivors) can only be triggered when it is killed by another player. Valve patched the whole "suiciding as a Boomer to boom Survivors" back in L4D1. The Spitter however can still have a puddle of spit appear if they suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctrlfrk May 13, 2013 Share ctrlfrk Member May 13, 2013 I have suicide bound to my middle mouse button and I use it all the time. It is unfortunate that the fix for the charger exploit makes it so you can't suicide while pinning someone as a hunter or smoker but I think you could probably exploit as a smoker too with certain spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaZeGr May 15, 2013 Share HaZeGr Member May 15, 2013 I hate messing up and then having the suvivors kill me for points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButterNJelly May 15, 2013 Share PeanutButterNJelly GC Alumni May 15, 2013 I try to suicide when I make a mistake, like spawn a boomer without rocketing, miss a charge and not have a good opportunity to get damage punching, etc. Obviously this is a rare situation, since mistakes are so infrequent in my level of play (I might change my name to Swatfishy x 3). Suicide is extremely important on certain maps like the second level of Sacrifice, where death charges are so important. People need to suicide there so others can get new chargers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavC May 15, 2013 Share mavC Member May 15, 2013 I love to suicide as a survivor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloosh May 16, 2013 Share Baloosh Member May 16, 2013 I try to suicide when I make a mistake... You must suicide a heckuva lot then. (Cause you bad) (At L4D) (And life in general) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobb May 22, 2013 Share Cobb Member May 22, 2013 I use suicide tactic all the time. Mostly because I'm too far from the survivors or I accidentally spawned in with the wrong infected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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